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Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitutional A... - 2/3/2010 8:54:20 PM   
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Good idea except the republicans are 100% corrupt and won’t support it.

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Rep. Donna Edwards has introduced an amendment to overturn the vile SCOTUS assault on democracy.

http://freespeechforpeople.org/edwardsvideo

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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/3/2010 9:06:30 PM   
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NOT a good idea.  Congress is trying to assert control over an independent judiciary.

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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/3/2010 9:17:04 PM   
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Quick, Brian, no Googling.  How many states have to ratify an amendment to the US Constitution after it passes on both sides of Congress by what majority?



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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/3/2010 9:39:08 PM   
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NOT a good idea.  Congress is trying to assert control over an independent judiciary.

Got a better suggestion that doesn't involve more corporate money being involved in our elections? The various tax increases related to political spending look unconstitutional if Citizen's United v FAA remains in effect.

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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/3/2010 9:55:56 PM   
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NOT a good idea.  Congress is trying to assert control over an independent judiciary.

By proposing an amendment, if passed it would codify this in the constitution thus making it the law of the land and in influence of which we have a right to lobby govt. for its terms and also overrules a very bad ruling by an over activist court.

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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/4/2010 4:30:16 AM   
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Good idea except the republicans are 100% corrupt and won’t support it.



Yea, to bad the democrats can't get a majority, then they might be able to accomplish something. Oh wait, they have the majority. Never mind.


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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/4/2010 5:20:06 AM   
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Congress is trying to assert control over an independent judiciary.


Congress has every right to try.

The Court interprets the law (they aren't supposed to make it).

Different laws, different rulings. If those laws are unconstitutional, back to the court.

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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/4/2010 5:24:19 AM   
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Good idea except the republicans are 100% corrupt and won’t support it.



Yea, to bad the democrats can't get a majority, then they might be able to accomplish something. Oh wait, they have the majority. Never mind.



*Sigh*...

This is NOT a case of all GOP being corrupt and ALL Dems being clean.

This isn't even about corruption at all.  Brain, you're seeing this as a clean system changing to a corrupt one under which corps can contribute to candidates.  Guess what... they already do. 

My director was pressured to contribute to PACs for my company.  PACs are nothing more than legal funnels for corporate contributions.

And it may be inconceivable to you, but courts (despite accusations as such) do not consciously try to rule based on political considerations.  They try to rule according to the law.




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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/4/2010 5:24:28 AM   
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I would be willing to bet this will get all the support it deserves. That is, essentially, none.

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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/4/2010 2:15:41 PM   
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They’re not independent, they are corporate and religious whores who overturned 100 years of precedent despite saying they would not before being confirmed. That also makes them liars and for that they should be impeached or Obama should stack the court like I said before on another thread; they'd overturn abortion no doubt.


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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/4/2010 2:17:42 PM   
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Who cares? Bush tried it with gay marriage.

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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/4/2010 2:20:30 PM   
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Democrats are 65% corrupt, Republicans 100.

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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/4/2010 2:23:25 PM   
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They need to take all the money out of politics and go to public financing.

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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/4/2010 2:25:24 PM   
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people need to start voting for real independents

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I would be willing to bet this will get all the support it deserves. That is, essentially, none.


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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/4/2010 2:58:26 PM   
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Democrats are 65% corrupt, Republicans 100.


Dems are ONLY 65% corrupt? what country/world are you from if you belive that?

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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/4/2010 3:01:52 PM   
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Ok. I signed up.  Now what?

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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/4/2010 3:35:42 PM   
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RFK JR. said it and it sounds about right. Born in Brooklyn NY.

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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/4/2010 6:39:58 PM   
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They’re not independent, they are corporate and religious whores who overturned 100 years of precedent despite saying they would not before being confirmed.


Alfred Sloan created the modern model of a corporation in the 1920s.  So the "100 years of precedent" couldn't be more than 80 years at most.

Are you stating that they gave an oath stating that they would not vote that a corporation has many of the rights of an individual despite that being the charter of a corporation in many ways?

Brain, I realize that you are capable of namecalling, but with nothing to back up the names... 
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That also makes them liars and for that they should be impeached or Obama should stack the court like I said before on another thread; they'd overturn abortion no doubt.



Simmer down.

I'm not an expert, but I've never heard of a justice being impeached.  I believe that they can be recalled by popular vote or removed from office for major issues (e.g., taking bribes).

You have made an unsupported statement that they promised to not consider corporations to have an ability to act like people.  Now you're calling them liars for not living up to your alleged promise?

You DO realize that Obama will not be in office forever, right?  What happens when a Sarah Palin gets elected and decides to stack the court? 

Conservatives have been trying to overturn Roe vs Wade for decades now.  They've had no luck doing so judicially as yet.  As I said, simmer down.


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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/4/2010 8:19:42 PM   
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They’re not independent, they are corporate and religious whores who overturned 100 years of precedent despite saying they would not before being confirmed.


Alfred Sloan created the modern model of a corporation in the 1920s.  So the "100 years of precedent" couldn't be more than 80 years at most.

Are you stating that they gave an oath stating that they would not vote that a corporation has many of the rights of an individual despite that being the charter of a corporation in many ways?

Brain, I realize that you are capable of namecalling, but with nothing to back up the names... 
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That also makes them liars and for that they should be impeached or Obama should stack the court like I said before on another thread; they'd overturn abortion no doubt.



Simmer down.

I'm not an expert, but I've never heard of a justice being impeached.  I believe that they can be recalled by popular vote or removed from office for major issues (e.g., taking bribes).

You have made an unsupported statement that they promised to not consider corporations to have an ability to act like people.  Now you're calling them liars for not living up to your alleged promise?

You DO realize that Obama will not be in office forever, right?  What happens when a Sarah Palin gets elected and decides to stack the court? 

Conservatives have been trying to overturn Roe vs Wade for decades now.  They've had no luck doing so judicially as yet.  As I said, simmer down.



100 years of precedent is bs. The only significant prior case that was overturned was Austin, decided in 1990. Austin overturned law that was in existence since the first corporation was formed, so whining about stare decisis is also bs.

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RE: Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitution... - 2/10/2010 7:30:36 AM   
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Good idea except the republicans are 100% corrupt and won’t support it.

Congresswoman Donna Edwards Introduces Constitutional Amendment to Undo SCOTUS Ruling | freespeechforpeople.org

Rep. Donna Edwards has introduced an amendment to overturn the vile SCOTUS assault on democracy.

http://freespeechforpeople.org/edwardsvideo




I can't think of any better campaign tool than a Democrat critter introducing a Constitutional amendment to limit the 1st amendment. Bring it on you dumb bitch ! lol.

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