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thornhappy -> O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/4/2010 10:22:21 PM)

Hi folks--

I found an article about O'Keefe in Salon that reports on his attendance at a white nationalist conference, and some of his other run-ins with minorities.  Here's an excerpt from the beginning of the article:

"His right-wing admirers don't seem to mind that O’Keefe's short but storied career has been defined by a series of political stunts shot through with racial resentment. Now an activist organization that monitors hate groups has produced a photo of O'Keefe at a 2006 conference on "Race and Conservatism" that featured leading white nationalists. The photo, first published Jan. 30  on the Web site of the anti-racism group One People's Project, shows O’Keefe at the gathering, which was so controversial even the ultra-right Leadership Institute, which employed O'Keefe at the time, withdrew its backing. But O'Keefe and fellow young conservative provocateur Marcus Epstein soldiered on to give anti-Semites, professional racists and proponents of Aryanism an opportunity to share their grievances and plans to make inroads in the GOP.

According to One People's Project founder Daryle Jenkins, O'Keefe was manning the literature table at the gathering that brought together anti-Semites, professional racists and proponents of Aryanism. OPP covered the event at the time, sending a freelance photographer to document the gathering. Jenkins told me the table was filled with tracts from the white supremacist right, including two pseudo-academic publications that have called blacks and Latinos genetically inferior to whites: American Renaissance and the Occidental Quarterly.  The leading speaker was Jared Taylor, founder of the white nationalist group American Renaissance. "We can say for certain that James O'Keefe was at the 2006 meeting with Jared Taylor. He has absolutely no way of denying that," Jenkins said. O'Keefe's attorney did not respond to a request for comment on his client's role in the conference."




Sanity -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 5:38:38 AM)



If what you post can be believed, O'Keefe and "the Reverend" Jeremiah Wright (and Wright's disciples) have much in common.








tazzygirl -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 6:01:37 AM)

Perhaps this is just a minor point... but... Sanity

A reverand can be racist and still do his job by his "flock".... a journalist, which Okeefe claims to be, cannot.




Jeffff -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 6:10:16 AM)

How many journalists are left anywhere? Gotta have a slant to GRAB you!



Jeff




kittinSol -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 6:10:28 AM)

What a surprise [8|] .




Sanity -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 6:10:50 AM)


Interesting logic, tazzy. I hadn't considered before (for some reason) that a racist dog such as Jeremiah Wright could still be a respectable spiritual leader.


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Perhaps this is just a minor point... but... Sanity

A reverand can be racist and still do his job by his "flock".... a journalist, which Okeefe claims to be, cannot.




Jeffff -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 6:16:27 AM)

That a bit naive of you isn't it? Just because they don't publicize their racism, it would be foolish to believe that many preachers, priests and ministers aren't racists.

Louis Farakahn?... Pat Robertson?


Jeff




kittinSol -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 6:17:50 AM)

You should go and make your own whiny "Wright is a racist!" thread, because this one's about O'Keefe and, you know... current news? If only you'd stop the blatant derail for five minutes, people might start listening to you again [8|] .

Back to the subject of the thread... O'Keefe and his ilk are the same kind of bastards that used to beat people up in the streets because they were the wrong colour. But right-wing extremists have learnt to hide their trade under simili respectable exteriors in order to fool others into believing that their aims are pure and honourable.

These people are dangerous: I have seen such fringe extremists influence public policy elsewhere. They basically spit on democracy, but use the democratic process to push their fascistic agenda. Buyers, beware [>:] .





Sanity -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 6:20:25 AM)


Wright is relevant because he proves that you are huge hypocrites.

You don't care about racism or supremacists, not one iota - unless they can score political points for you. Then thats all that matters...

You're a fucking joke.




kittinSol -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 6:22:13 AM)

I'm glad: I'd rather make you laugh than cry, baby.




DomImus -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 6:23:49 AM)

People can dig up all the shit they want to on O'Keefe. It won't change a syllable of what was said on those ACORN tapes.




kittinSol -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 6:27:10 AM)

And another right-winger derails rofl!!!

Bow to your leader [;)] .

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Jeffff -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 6:27:53 AM)

No it won't. The acorn tapes are heinous. But it doesn't necessarily show a culture of deception either.




kittinSol -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 6:30:24 AM)

Why did O'Keefe go after Acorn, hmmm?

"By O’Keefe’s own account, his racial troubles became acute when he entered the multicultural atmosphere of Rutgers University’s dormitory system. In an online diary that has since been scrubbed from the Web (but not before being captured on Daily Kos), he wrote that he was forced to live on an all-black dormitory floor after refusing to live with the gay roommate he was initially assigned. O’Keefe claimed his next roommate was “an Indian midget ... who smelled like shit.” The roommate left, however, and was replaced by “a greek kid.” The new roommate complained to a residential administrator that O’Keefe had called his neighbors “niggers,” prompting the school to expel him from the dorm. He rejected the accusation as a “complete lie,” writing, “I was lead out of the room crying and screaming at him and my situation, no friends, no one one [sic] to talk to, forced to go in front of a black man, Dean Tolbert, to defend myself and help explain that I did not call anyone any names.”

From thorny's link. Like I said when this story came about, what a charming individual O'Keefe is.




rulemylife -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 6:56:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Back to the subject of the thread... O'Keefe and his ilk are the same kind of bastards that used to beat people up in the streets because they were the wrong colour. But right-wing extremists have learnt to hide their trade under simili respectable exteriors in order to fool others into believing that their aims are pure and honourable.


Used to?

From the link, regarding O'Keefe's friend Epstein:


Epstein’s career unraveled in June 2009, when a violent racial assault he committed two years earlier was disclosed. According to a court affidavit, Epstein had karate-chopped a random African-American woman in the face and called her a “nigger” during a drunken late-night romp bar-hopping on Washington’s M Street in 2007, leading to his arrest by an off-duty Secret Service agent.






rulemylife -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 7:13:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DomImus

People can dig up all the shit they want to on O'Keefe. It won't change a syllable of what was said on those ACORN tapes.


No it won't, but you do also realize he has civil suits pending against him for that action because it is illegal to tape or video a person without their consent.

So you are defending one illegality to expose another?





kittinSol -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 7:32:31 AM)

In fact, nobody at ACORN is facing criminal charges, whereas O'Keefe... well, we know what O'Keefe's got in front of him.

"Ironically, no one from ACORN had ever been charged with a crime behind any of O'Keefe's videos, although Congress had denied funding to the organization, only for the denial to be successfully fought in court. Last week, Katherine Conway-Russel, an ACORN office director in Philadelphia filed suit against O'Keefe and his partner in the videos Hannah Giles claiming the pair "purportedly sought information regarding housing and mortgage opportunities in Philadelphia, but were in reality imposters who deliberately and surreptitiously created video and audio recordings in an attempt to discredit plaintiff Conway-Russell and ACORN Housing Corporation," and that they subsequently "disseminated the illegally obtained recordings in a manner calculated to harm and injure" her. Although ACORN has another lawsuit pending in Baltimore, Md., this is the first such lawsuit by an individual employee."

One people's project.




DomImus -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 1:08:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomImus

People can dig up all the shit they want to on O'Keefe. It won't change a syllable of what was said on those ACORN tapes.


No it won't, but you do also realize he has civil suits pending against him for that action because it is illegal to tape or video a person without their consent.

So you are defending one illegality to expose another?


Not any more than you just tried to justify the first illegality because it may have been exposed in commission of the second. If he is found liable in those civil suits, let him pay. No amount of civil suits or dirt dug up about O'Keefe is going to change one syllable of what was said on those tapes no matter how hard the opposition tries to distract us from that fact and that's what all of this is about.




Brain -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 2:00:30 PM)

Another Day, Another ‘Republican Activist’ Caught Sending Racist Anti-Obama Crap

Yep, the Earth is still here and the Internet still exists, so that means yet another Republican Activist has been caught sending terrible racist anti-Obama bullshit to his racist Internet pals. It’s funny, that’s why! Meet wingnut anti-health-care-reform Tea Party idiot Dr. David McKalip … or, better yet, don’t meet him! Just read about him, and shake your head, sadly. McKalip sent around a hee-larious image of Obama’s head and face — with a bone through the nose, of course — photoshopped atop the body of a dark-skinned tribesman of some kind. Underneath the picture is a very comical “Obama-Care” logo featuring, of course, a hammer and sickle. Click MORE if you need to see it.

Read more at Wonkette: http://wonkette.com/410039/another-day-another-republican-activist-caught-sending-racist-anti-obama-crap#ixzz0ehX4s4jD



quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity



If what you post can be believed, O'Keefe and "the Reverend" Jeremiah Wright (and Wright's disciples) have much in common.










Brain -> RE: O'Keefe's done some strange stuff.... (2/5/2010 4:16:11 PM)

They went after acorn because they want to maintain/mask voter disenfranhisement.

Are the Republicans Right About Acorn?

In short -- no. Accusations of registration fraud against ACORN mask the very real voter disenfranchisement going on around the country.

"There is no question that the number of people voting wrongfully is infinitesimal compared to the hundreds of thousands being purged," Michael Waldman of the Brennan Center told a crowd of reporters at the Washington Press Club two weeks ago. Waldman subsequently added, "The level of disenfranchisement is greater than we have seen in previous federal elections. … It is fierce."

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=are_the_republicans_right_about_acorn

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Why did O'Keefe go after Acorn, hmmm?

"By O’Keefe’s own account, his racial troubles became acute when he entered the multicultural atmosphere of Rutgers University’s dormitory system. In an online diary that has since been scrubbed from the Web (but not before being captured on Daily Kos), he wrote that he was forced to live on an all-black dormitory floor after refusing to live with the gay roommate he was initially assigned. O’Keefe claimed his next roommate was “an Indian midget ... who smelled like shit.” The roommate left, however, and was replaced by “a greek kid.” The new roommate complained to a residential administrator that O’Keefe had called his neighbors “niggers,” prompting the school to expel him from the dorm. He rejected the accusation as a “complete lie,” writing, “I was lead out of the room crying and screaming at him and my situation, no friends, no one one [sic] to talk to, forced to go in front of a black man, Dean Tolbert, to defend myself and help explain that I did not call anyone any names.”

From thorny's link. Like I said when this story came about, what a charming individual O'Keefe is.





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