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RE: Stocks dip slightly, Unemployment Plunges - 2/5/2010 3:18:16 PM   
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Uhm, my 401K is doing very very well.


Ditto here. (403b).




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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/8/2010 8:10:55 AM   
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Simply put, Obama is a socialist that is the figurehead of a lame left wing attempt to lie to the electorate about being a 'moderate' during the election, and a socialist dictator after the election...the people have this guy pegged and the party is over... pure and simple...the guy is DONE....period....  deal with it....

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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/8/2010 8:13:20 AM   
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See, the socialist crap gets old.

You wouldn't know a Socialist from Santa.

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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/8/2010 8:14:23 AM   
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Spoken as a true lib always does....tax cuts evil..... big governent is the only answer.... try to sell that crap to the electorate now.... you would get tarred and feathered and run out of town in a heartbeat....the govenment is about to get culled down to the bare bones, or get out the guns....because it IS gonna happen...Washington is about to experience a recession like it has never known.....hide and watch Kimosabe'....

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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/8/2010 8:15:48 AM   
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The truth hurts don't it..... this nation was founded on INDIVIDUAL, AND ECONOMIC FREEDOM....PERIOD....embrace it or MOVE....pure and simple....

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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/8/2010 8:17:46 AM   
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If you think I'm a true liberal, then you also wouldn't know a Liberal from Santa.

Ask liberals about my stance on free trade, lower capital gains, just for starters...

All you know is knee-jerk insults. It's not the same as thinking, you know.

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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/8/2010 8:23:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Thadius


If the full $820Billion was such an emergency, I suggest that perhaps the majority of the money should have been spent last year... The last numbers I saw, suggested that 2/3 of the money has yet to be spent. Now it is looking more like a slush fund, to be spent to help ensure certain seats are protected in the upcoming mid-terms. Like I said I am a bit cynical.

If I were president, and had to spend that money, I probably would have gone a completely different route. Hmmm, perhaps something along the lines of $2,000 to each man, woman and child (citizen or legal alien). Which would leave about $200Billion that could have been divided up to the state governments for infrastructure or job retraining programs. Not that I like the idea of spending that kind of money by the Federal govt, but hell the money belongs to us (the people), not the government.

Then again, I am just a simple man.


Bush tried exactly that to stimulate the economy and it didn't work because most people used it to pay their current expenses rather than go on a spending spree.






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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/8/2010 8:25:49 AM   
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Giving each citizen $50,000 would work wonders....

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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/8/2010 8:25:51 AM   
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ACtually, he sent an early tax refund.

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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/8/2010 8:43:57 AM   
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Giving each citizen $50,000 would work wonders....



It would work wonders for me..............and the economy.

I can already picture that Shelby GT 500 sitting in my garage.

But that would be part of the evil socialist empire that Obama is trying to create, so I would have to refuse it.

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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/8/2010 8:53:52 AM   
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ACtually, he sent an early tax refund.


You will have to elaborate on that because I'm not understanding.

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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/8/2010 9:15:03 AM   
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If you were due $2000 back, you got $300 now, $1700 later.

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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/8/2010 9:16:04 AM   
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Giving each citizen $50,000 would work wonders....



For inflating the currency.

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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/10/2010 6:16:21 AM   
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When will you learn, facts are meaningless to those who only think the GOP taxcuts are the greatest thing since the Reagan tax cuts

The really baffling thing about that is the way none of the apologist sheep seem to be rich enough to benefit any from the tax cuts themselves. It always puzzles me that people who are supposedly motivated by self interest are keen to bend over and get fucked up the arse without any lube by the tiny minority who own most of the country. Doubtless they hope to become rich themselves one day, but all of this redirecting money from the middle classes to the top 5% makes that a lot less likely, I'd have thought.


Some of us have enough clue to realize that the rich bastard that owns the company we work for is more likely to retain our employment if he's actually making, not losing money on his business. And the lower the rich bastard's taxes are the less likely it'll be profitable for him to send the work overseas to cheaper countries with less fucked up governments and less undeserving spoiled ass brat employees that think they are entitled to a job.

Or in other words, some of us have gotten past kindergarten, and understand it is in our best interest to not have our employer's fucked up the ass by the government on behalf of the galatically stupid.

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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/10/2010 6:24:20 AM   
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Unfortunately, few on either "side" seem able to get past silly simplifications to economic reality.

People would rather be "right" than "rich."

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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/10/2010 6:35:01 AM   
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And the lower the rich bastard's taxes are the less likely it'll be profitable for him to send the work overseas to cheaper countries with less fucked up governments and less undeserving spoiled ass brat employees that think they are entitled to a job.

Or in other words, some of us have gotten past kindergarten, and understand it is in our best interest to not have our employer's fucked up the ass by the government on behalf of the galatically stupid.



Uh, but that has not and will not be the case, ever, even with lower taxes, if the cost is lower overseas the job is going there.

Now, I do separate small businesses from publicly traded companies and other big business privately owned.

Small businesses need more breaks and help, big private and public companies need the shit taxed out of them and more regulation.



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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/10/2010 6:38:32 AM   
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Giving each citizen $50,000 would work wonders....



Entirely wrong mentality.  The government is in fact capable of creating "money from nothing", but not without a price - inflation or higher taxes down the road.  Part of the problem is that we as individuals have gotten used to buying stuff we can't afford - the government is guilty of the same thing, and making it do more is wrong.


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RE: Stocks Plunge, Unemployment Still Up - 2/10/2010 6:45:53 AM   
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...Again, the essence of political conservatism (as outlined by Russell Kirk and others ) is caution, doubt, moderation and most of all balance.

We have allowed the Wall Street investment banks to become engorged with power, way out of balance with their true importance, and confused a cultish devotion to market absolutism with a reasoned balance between public good and private interests.


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