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Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/7/2010 8:50:29 PM   
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By JEFF ZELENY
February 7, 2010

WASHINGTON — President Obama said Sunday that he would convene a half-day bipartisan health care session at the White House to be televised live this month, a high-profile gambit that will allow Americans to watch as Democrats and Republicans try to break their political impasse.

Mr. Obama made the announcement in an interview on CBS during the Super Bowl pre-game show, capitalizing on a vast television audience. He set out a plan that would put Republicans on the spot to offer their own ideas on health care and show whether both sides are willing to work together.

“I want to come back and have a large meeting, Republicans and Democrats, to go through systematically all the best ideas that are out there and move it forward,” Mr. Obama said in the interview from the White House Library.

Mr. Obama challenged Republicans to attend the meeting with their plans for lowering the cost of health insurance and expanding coverage to more than 30 million uninsured Americans. Republican leaders said they welcomed the opportunity and called on Democrats to start the debate from scratch, which the president said he would not do.

The move by Mr. Obama comes after weeks in which the administration has appeared uncertain about how to proceed on his top domestic priority since Republicans captured the Senate seat previously held by Senator Edward M. Kennedy. House and Senate Democrats had been increasingly at odds over what the bill should say, how to move ahead tactically and, in some cases, whether to continue at all.

The idea for the bipartisan meeting, set for Feb. 25, was reached in recent weeks, aides said, as part of the White House strategy to intensify its push to engage Congressional Republicans in policy negotiations, share the burden of governing and put more scrutiny on Republican initiatives.

Mr. Obama’s announcement came after he surprised his rivals in late January by requesting that a session with House Republicans be open to cameras. That meeting produced a spirited 90-minute question-and-answer session with the president that many in the White House viewed as a critical success for Mr. Obama.

In making the gesture on Sunday, Mr. Obama is in effect calling the hand of Republicans who had chastised him for not honoring a campaign pledge to hold health care deliberations in the open, broadcast by C-Span, and for not allowing Republicans at the bargaining table.

Nancy-Ann DeParle, the director of the White House Office for Health Reform, briefed Democratic Congressional staff members in a conference call ahead of the interview, with Katie Couric.

Separately, some Congressional staff members expressed concern that Mr. Obama’s meeting would simply prolong an already tortuous process. And Democrats still face steep challenges in reconciling the differences between the House and Senate bills.

Some House Democrats are firmly opposed to a proposed tax on high-cost employer-sponsored insurance policies, which they think will hit some middle-class workers and violate Mr. Obama’s campaign promise not to raise taxes on Americans earning less than $250,000 a year.

The president offered a number of questions that his party would have for the Republicans.

“How do you guys want to lower costs? How do you guys intend to reform the insurance market so that people with pre-existing conditions, for example, can get health care?” he said. “How do you want to make sure that the 30 million people who don’t have health insurance can get it? What are your ideas specifically?”

The question for Mr. Obama is how much — if at all — he is willing to give on some of the concepts Democrats have already agreed on, or if he is using the meeting to lay the groundwork for another effort by Democrats to push the legislation through without Republican votes.

Mr. Obama did not indicate what he was willing to give up in the negotiations, nor did he chart a specific legislative strategy for moving a bill through Congress. Democrats in the House and Senate were hoping to resolve their differences in the bill, aides said, and present a unified health care plan in time for the meeting.

Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, said in a statement that he welcomed the bipartisan meeting on health care and called on the president to begin the dialogue “by shelving the current health spending bill.”

“The fact is Senate Republicans held hundreds of town halls and met with their constituents across the country last year on the need for health care reform, outlining ideas for the step-by-step approach that Americans have asked for,” Mr. McConnell said. “And we know there are a number of issues with bipartisan support that we can start with when the 2,700-page bill is put on the shelf.”

When asked by Ms. Couric if he would agree to discard the bill and start over, the president said he would not. The starting point, aides said, would be with the proposals that passed the House and Senate.

It remained an open question whether the meeting could lead to real consensus on health care, or whether it would serve only to allow Democrats to frame a political argument against the Republicans going into the midterm campaign.

Republicans were involved in the health care discussions for months last year in the Senate Finance Committee, but differences with Democrats were never resolved.

The bipartisan meeting on health care could give Mr. Obama an opportunity to display the command on health care issues he showed at the meeting with Republicans. The administration believes that the public is supportive of many of the provisions in the bill — particularly taking away the insurance bans for pre-existing conditions — but that the debate was overshadowed by a messy legislative process.

Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, the Republican leader, said he was looking forward to the bipartisan discussion. But he joined Mr. McConnell in calling for a fresh start to the health care debate.

“The problem with the Democrats’ health care bills is not that the American people don’t understand them — the American people do understand them, and they don’t like them,” Mr. Boehner said in a statement. “The best way to start on real, bipartisan reform would be to scrap those bills and focus on the kind of step-by-step improvements that will lower health care costs and expand access.”

In the interview on Sunday, Mr. Obama said he did not regret pursuing health care in the first year of his presidency, even though he intends to place a higher priority on job creation this year.

“It was the right thing to do then,” Mr. Obama. “It continues to be the right thing.”

David Herszenhorn contributed reporting.
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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/7/2010 9:02:11 PM   
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Likely a waste of time, given that the Repubs are stuck in opposition mode.

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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/7/2010 9:33:27 PM   
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quote:

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Likely a waste of time, given that the Repubs are stuck in opposition mode.


They definitely are, here's another article with some quotes showing the lack of any desire by Republicans to embrace bipartisanship:

Obama invites GOP leaders to bipartisan health care talk


"If we are to reach a bipartisan consensus, the White House can start by shelving the current health spending bill," said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio also threw some jabs while accepting Obama's invitation. He said he was glad the White House "finally seems interested in a real, bipartisan conversation," adding that Americans have rejected "the job-killing, trillion-dollar government takeover of health care bills passed by the House and Senate."




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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/7/2010 10:06:41 PM   
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This reminds me of a movie I once saw. Ground Hog Day.Now he wants to include republicans..

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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 6:01:47 AM   
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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 6:11:10 AM   
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He didn't need the Republicans for anything for over a year, but everything is still all their fault?

Yet, I think you may be on to something. What Obama is looking for is a scapegoat. He's looking to pin the blame for all of his miserable failures on those terrible, nasty Republicans.

I think the Republicans could beat him at his own game however. Even if he is successful in labeling them as the party of "no" they could turn that around on him and simply say its true. NO higher taxes, NO deficits, NO more luxurious trips overseas on the part of Barack Obama and Nanci Pelosi and all her cohorts...

In short, NO more wasteful spending. From the party of NO. 


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Likely a waste of time, given that the Repubs are stuck in opposition mode.






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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 6:19:47 AM   
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What Obama is looking for is a scapegoat.


Bingo. This one has Trojan horse written all over it.




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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 6:31:51 AM   
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Right - he might be smiling, but be careful when he goes to pat you on the back.

His hand likely has a knife in it.


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What Obama is looking for is a scapegoat.


Bingo. This one has Trojan horse written all over it.





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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 6:38:00 AM   
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While he's at it he should try to get them to support his 'Cap & Trade' program, global warming initiative, and getting the Olympics for Chicago.

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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 6:41:00 AM   
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The classic narcissist- he thinks that if he EXPLAINS it to them why , of course they will see that his is right.



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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 7:01:43 AM   
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This has everything to do with the severe spanking Obama got in Massachusetts of course. Prior to that he had no interest in showing bipartisanship of any kind, unless it meant that the opposition caved to his demands.




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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 7:13:27 AM   
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Not to rain on anyone's parade, but the GOP needs to have a head check as well. At least part of this growing distrust of the growing distrust of Washington started under their watch. Senator's like Grahm in my own state of SC for example. This is not a win/win situation for them any longer.. at least I hope it's not.

As to the subject of both of the sides working together.. it's hog wash. If they want to use the trash bills brought to the floor late last year then anyone with half a brain best vote no... The people don't want it.

Take a look at any program and tell me it's well run by these ass clowns.. and I hate to say it, but it's both sides that have brought us to the horrid situation. I think the best we can hope for is gridlock and that next time around it will be more substance then style when we pick the people to send up there.

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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 7:33:53 AM   
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Sanity, I didn't say anything was anybody's fault. What I said was attempts at bipartisan measures were likely a waste of time because the Repubs are in opposition mode. The Dems could have passed pretty much anything they wanted, but they got caught up trying to satisfy a few fringe members (blue dogs) and the Repubs as well. And you see the result...a bill nobody really wants except the insurance industry.
Being in "opposition mode" is a common thing in politics, it is when the minority party opposes everything the majority party proposes simply on principle, rather than on the programs actual merits (or lack thereof). Sort of "Obama wants it so it MUST be wrong". Watch and see what they do now that Obama has stated publicly that he is in favour of tort reform....


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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 7:41:41 AM   
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dream on....he can PLAN and plot all he wishes...the conservatives know what he intends to do and that will be quickly derailed...... they will set down a criteria for the summit, and if  he does not agree....its OVER before it begins..... hide and watch o socialist mouth.....

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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 7:48:01 AM   
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dream on....he can PLAN and plot all he wishes...the conservatives know what he intends to do and that will be quickly derailed...... they will set down a criteria for the summit, and if  he does not agree....its OVER before it begins..... hide and watch o socialist mouth.....


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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 7:48:23 AM   
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Sanity, I didn't say anything was anybody's fault. What I said was attempts at bipartisan measures were likely a waste of time because the Repubs are in opposition mode. The Dems could have passed pretty much anything they wanted, but they got caught up trying to satisfy a few fringe members (blue dogs) and the Repubs as well. And you see the result...a bill nobody really wants except the insurance industry.
Being in "opposition mode" is a common thing in politics, it is when the minority party opposes everything the majority party proposes simply on principle, rather than on the programs actual merits (or lack thereof). Sort of "Obama wants it so it MUST be wrong". Watch and see what they do now that Obama has stated publicly that he is in favour of tort reform....



Not to mention that several members have been saying explicitly all year that this is there intent. It's hardly a secret.

And it's their right, and hardly unique, as Arpig points out.

While this is theater, at least it's public theater. Instead of trading press releases, we'll have them answering each other directly. Yes, it's all about the election, not health care, but a small bit of progress.

Yes, Obama proposed it because now he has to do something, and yes, he should have done this a year ago.

But better than what we have now, at least. Should be interesting.


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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 2:41:41 PM   
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Gee it was only a week or so ago the GOP where crying that the health care debate was not going to be on TV, now Obama has set the stage for it to begin on C-span and the GOP are coming up with excuses why they do not want to be on TV for the debate.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/08/cantor-health-care-meeting/

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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 3:10:46 PM   
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Gee it was only a week or so ago the GOP where crying that the health care debate was not going to be on TV, now Obama has set the stage for it to begin on C-span and the GOP are coming up with excuses why they do not want to be on TV for the debate.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/08/cantor-health-care-meeting/



I don't remember the complaints being about future debates not being on C-SPAN, I think the complaints were that all of the meetings (save some committees) that determined what was in that bastardized bill the Senate passed were behind closed doors.

I only wish they were accepting questions from the public. Cuz I would love to ask...

Can you explain why all of the taxes and other budgetary items were to kick in this year, with none of the benefits starting for another 3 to 4 years?

Unfortunately, this seems to be nothing more than an attempt to deflect the criticism of the current bills and how they came about. It give the President and other members of the majority a chance to say "See we held bi-partisan meetings, televised it, and came to a consensus."; then try and push through the current bills with perhaps a couple of small changes.

I hope I am wrong.

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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 3:17:43 PM   
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Having the debates televised is good.  Ending deadlock is better.  We have had the same problem in the California legislature with the 2 parties and the Governator battling it out and holding up the state budget.

What's the position of most Independents on these issues?



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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 3:20:09 PM   
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What's an Independent these days???  Seems a general push has been made by parties to have their people saying they are "independent" put support a party line politics

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