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Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War Pro... - 2/10/2010 4:38:41 PM   
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Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War Protesters
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While discussing the Tea Party movement with Newt Gingrich on his FNC The O’Reilly Factor, Bill O’Reilly compared the tea baggers to the people who protested the Vietnam War. Bill-O said, “Not since the Vietnam War have I seen anger at this level from the American public,” because angry white people protesting a black president is exactly the same as protesting a war.

http://www.politicususa.com/Tea-partiers-Vietnam

This is more accurate for me:
The tea partiers aren’t protesting something as life and death as a war. They are upset because the Republican Party lost the 2008 election. The political mood of the country is angry, but that anger is the same as it was in 2006 and 2008. It is fantasy for O’Reilly to pretend that this anger is new and arisen from the Obama presidency.
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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 4:42:53 PM   
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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 4:44:48 PM   
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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 4:48:13 PM   
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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 4:56:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Brain

Gingrich answers a lot of questions with a little bit of revisionist history. I think it's a stretch Bill.

Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War Protesters
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While discussing the Tea Party movement with Newt Gingrich on his FNC The O’Reilly Factor, Bill O’Reilly compared the tea baggers to the people who protested the Vietnam War. Bill-O said, “Not since the Vietnam War have I seen anger at this level from the American public,” because angry white people protesting a black president is exactly the same as protesting a war.

http://www.politicususa.com/Tea-partiers-Vietnam

This is more accurate for me:
The tea partiers aren’t protesting something as life and death as a war. They are upset because the Republican Party lost the 2008 election. The political mood of the country is angry, but that anger is the same as it was in 2006 and 2008. It is fantasy for O’Reilly to pretend that this anger is new and arisen from the Obama presidency.


First off, the tea party movement in general don't that the Repubs lost in 2008, most of them are Indies (including myself as I have made it to a couple of these events now). The folks that I have talked to are pissed at not just the White House (new and old administrations) but congress (Dems and Repubs alike) as well. I think the anger level has grown as can be seen in the Rasmussen poll I cited earlier this week. Not only has it grown, but I would say that it is more focused than it has been since the Nam era protests. It is focused on taking control back by the people, and not letting the asshats in DC run around with no limits. It is about holding the pricks, that have sold our futures down the river, accountable.

Some are protesting the wars, some have been protesting the wars since they started. I will take your opening comment of what is accurate to you to mean that you don't believe that healthcare and financial well being are not as important as war and definitely not matters of life and death? Or are you suggesting that the only protests that are worth paying attention to are those against war?

I also like the racial slant given by your source. Bravo.

Heads back to discuss what to do with all his angry white friends now that we have been found out...

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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 5:05:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I read the OP as Brain saying O'Reilly was stretching. (surprise)
 
And then he added his own 'more accurate' opinion with no racial overtone.
 
Let's not put Brain in with RealOne.
 
Avid poster vs psychopath. Not fair.

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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 5:14:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

I read the OP as Brain saying O'Reilly was stretching. (surprise)
 
And then he added his own 'more accurate' opinion with no racial overtone.
 
Let's not put Brain in with RealOne.
 
Avid poster vs psychopath. Not fair.

So you don't find the extra comment about "angry white voters protesting a black president" to say something about the motive or at least the rationale of the opinion piece?

Guess I read to much into it...

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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 5:26:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Thadius


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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

I read the OP as Brain saying O'Reilly was stretching. (surprise)
 
And then he added his own 'more accurate' opinion with no racial overtone.
 
Let's not put Brain in with RealOne.
 
Avid poster vs psychopath. Not fair.

So you don't find the extra comment about "angry white voters protesting a black president" to say something about the motive or at least the rationale of the opinion piece?

Guess I read to much into it...


I saw that as something the idiot O'Reilly said. I saw Brain calling it a stretch.
 
If it's part of the opinion piece, then I also think it's an overreach.
 
Just to be clear - it's not my opinion either.
 
I questioned the attribution some people gave to Brain agreeing to the piece, which I don't believe he does, from my read of the post.

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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 5:30:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

I read the OP as Brain saying O'Reilly was stretching. (surprise)
 
And then he added his own 'more accurate' opinion with no racial overtone.
 
Let's not put Brain in with RealOne.
 
Avid poster vs psychopath. Not fair.


Your right, I totally read that wrong. Sorry brain.


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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 5:30:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting analogy.  The antiwar protests were fueled with genuine anger... the common man couldn't see any benefit in the war, and a lot of people were dying in it.  It was never a declared war, and the Congresspeople's children were exempted from service.  All in all, complete injustice.

The teapartiers are similar in some ways - they feel disenfranchised, and the recent bailouts, which we cannot really afford, and go to propping up a mess caused by unethical if not illegal behavior, were done in spite of 99+% very vocal opposition.
Again, a strong "us vs them" mindset.

The big difference as I see it is that the antiwar movement was united on a single issue, while the teapartiers don't have as much focus.  It's mostly about insane fiscal policies, and the corrupt Wall Street suits getting their bonuses and bailouts like clockwork.

The other difference, not an ideological one, is that the antiwar movement did not have the Internet.  The teapartiers will be able to communicate and organize more rapidly.


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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 5:34:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

quote:

ORIGINAL: Thadius


quote:

ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

I read the OP as Brain saying O'Reilly was stretching. (surprise)
 
And then he added his own 'more accurate' opinion with no racial overtone.
 
Let's not put Brain in with RealOne.
 
Avid poster vs psychopath. Not fair.

So you don't find the extra comment about "angry white voters protesting a black president" to say something about the motive or at least the rationale of the opinion piece?

Guess I read to much into it...


I saw that as something the idiot O'Reilly said. I saw Brain calling it a stretch.
 
If it's part of the opinion piece, then I also think it's an overreach.
 
Just to be clear - it's not my opinion either.
 
I questioned the attribution some people gave to Brain agreeing to the piece, which I don't believe he does, from my read of the post.


Nah the part I quoted was added on by the author of the oped. I would also say that Brain agrees with the author as he quotes them almost word for word in his what's accurate for me bit....
from the cited oped:
quote:


The tea partiers aren’t protesting something as life and death as a war. They are upset because the Republican Party lost the 2008 election. The political mood of the country is angry, but that anger is the same as it was in 2006 and 2008. It is fantasy for O’Reilly to pretend that this anger is new and arisen from the Obama presidency.


Guess he figured nobody would read it?

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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 5:36:15 PM   
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We'll just ignore that about 3 years ago he became the leader of an anti-government civil libertarian movement..  But it was trendy, patriotic and 'cool' back then..

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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 5:43:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Thadius


quote:

ORIGINAL: Brain

Gingrich answers a lot of questions with a little bit of revisionist history. I think it's a stretch Bill.

Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War Protesters
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While discussing the Tea Party movement with Newt Gingrich on his FNC The O’Reilly Factor, Bill O’Reilly compared the tea baggers to the people who protested the Vietnam War. Bill-O said, “Not since the Vietnam War have I seen anger at this level from the American public,” because angry white people protesting a black president is exactly the same as protesting a war.

http://www.politicususa.com/Tea-partiers-Vietnam

This is more accurate for me:
The tea partiers aren’t protesting something as life and death as a war. They are upset because the Republican Party lost the 2008 election. The political mood of the country is angry, but that anger is the same as it was in 2006 and 2008. It is fantasy for O’Reilly to pretend that this anger is new and arisen from the Obama presidency.


First off, the tea party movement in general don't that the Repubs lost in 2008, most of them are Indies (including myself as I have made it to a couple of these events now). The folks that I have talked to are pissed at not just the White House (new and old administrations) but congress (Dems and Repubs alike) as well. I think the anger level has grown as can be seen in the Rasmussen poll I cited earlier this week. Not only has it grown, but I would say that it is more focused than it has been since the Nam era protests. It is focused on taking control back by the people, and not letting the asshats in DC run around with no limits. It is about holding the pricks, that have sold our futures down the river, accountable.

Some are protesting the wars, some have been protesting the wars since they started. I will take your opening comment of what is accurate to you to mean that you don't believe that healthcare and financial well being are not as important as war and definitely not matters of life and death? Or are you suggesting that the only protests that are worth paying attention to are those against war?

I also like the racial slant given by your source. Bravo.

Heads back to discuss what to do with all his angry white friends now that we have been found out...

The Tea Baggers are easily the worst informed popular movement ever in the US. They're being used by Dick Armey and his cohorts to give the appearance of some sort of grass roots movement but the fact is there was no hue and cry over the previous administration spending trillions we didn't have. They may claim political independence but the groups who have messed up and presented any sort of platform show clearly that they are from the far right fringe of the GOP.

The ludicrous howls about 'socialism' and the various and sundry blatantly racist portrayals of Obama are proof enough for me that these people didn't know or care about HCR but did care mightily about the skin color of the POTUS. Multiple interviews of and written statements by tea partiers confirms those facts beyond any reasonable doubt.

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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 5:51:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Thadius


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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

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ORIGINAL: Thadius


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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

I read the OP as Brain saying O'Reilly was stretching. (surprise)
 
And then he added his own 'more accurate' opinion with no racial overtone.
 
Let's not put Brain in with RealOne.
 
Avid poster vs psychopath. Not fair.

So you don't find the extra comment about "angry white voters protesting a black president" to say something about the motive or at least the rationale of the opinion piece?

Guess I read to much into it...


I saw that as something the idiot O'Reilly said. I saw Brain calling it a stretch.
 
If it's part of the opinion piece, then I also think it's an overreach.
 
Just to be clear - it's not my opinion either.
 
I questioned the attribution some people gave to Brain agreeing to the piece, which I don't believe he does, from my read of the post.


Nah the part I quoted was added on by the author of the oped. I would also say that Brain agrees with the author as he quotes them almost word for word in his what's accurate for me bit....
from the cited oped:
quote:


The tea partiers aren’t protesting something as life and death as a war. They are upset because the Republican Party lost the 2008 election. The political mood of the country is angry, but that anger is the same as it was in 2006 and 2008. It is fantasy for O’Reilly to pretend that this anger is new and arisen from the Obama presidency.


Guess he figured nobody would read it?


I see that as agreeing with ONE part of the piece, and not necessarily all of it.
 
Then again, I'm reluctant to attribute without being 100% sure.

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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 5:56:21 PM   
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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 5:58:16 PM   
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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 6:05:30 PM   
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Ron went to one near where he lives. He was not impressed.

It is indeed possible that these people can effect change. Whether I like it or not, remains to be seen.


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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 6:46:08 PM   
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I also like the racial slant given by your source. Bravo.

Heads back to discuss what to do with all his angry white friends now that we have been found out...


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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 6:51:09 PM   
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RE: Bill O’Reilly Compares Tea Baggers to Vietnam War... - 2/10/2010 7:13:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		A look at behind the scenes coverage.

Somebody that didn't get any coverage.

I would also point you to one of the organizers of the Tea Party movement David Webb...

Tis a shame that the nuts and kooks get all of the attention from the mass media. Hell, Time magazine didn't include a single picture of the Tea Parties in their year in review...

Interesting video in it's entirety

But what do I know? Your pictures must describe the majority of folks at these protests.

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