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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/11/2010 5:18:36 PM   
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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/11/2010 5:19:55 PM   
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My sister once told me the most effective pill was an aspirin, as long as you held it tightly between the knees


Partly true....it doesn't have to be an aspirin


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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/11/2010 5:20:13 PM   
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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/11/2010 5:24:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well theres Planned parenthoods web site.  As well as  http://www.birth-control-comparison.info/thepill.htm

As well as from webmd..

"The Pill is taken by mouth by the woman to prevent pregnancy, and when taken correctly, is up to 99.9% effective."

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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/11/2010 5:28:42 PM   
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I agree with all of these, but hesitate on the women going topless one. I have no issue with it but I wonder, would it spur some guys with little self control to do things they shouldn't? And would it cause wrecks?


The thought has occurred to me as well. Let’s be honest, the reason we have laws that compel women to cover up is because us guys don’t trust ourselves – and even if we do trust ourselves, we sure as hell don’t trust the other guy. Still, a pretty women walking down the street is already a distraction and we are expected to keep our eyes on the road. Realistically, I don’t think a relaxing of the laws against publicly peeking boobs would lead to a profusion of boobs everywhere. Culture still dictates that men as well as women cover up in most areas of life (the office, etc.) and it’s not as if every woman is eager to disrobe in public. Most likely if you wanted to see bare boobs you’d have to wait to summer and then go to the beach – although really hot days may produce some nice views in front lawns and local ice cream parlors.


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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/11/2010 5:30:49 PM   
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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/11/2010 5:38:30 PM   
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Well theres Planned parenthoods web site.  As well as  http://www.birth-control-comparison.info/thepill.htm

As well as from webmd..

"The Pill is taken by mouth by the woman to prevent pregnancy, and when taken correctly, is up to 99.9% effective."

not IS




Okay, from the Planned Parenthood site:  The Pill is 92-99.7% effective as birth control

Nothing about being over 180 lbs or any of the other stuff you posted. It really bothers me when people go and post things that simply aren't true. The fact is that there is no proof that pregnancies would increase just because prostitution is legal.


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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/11/2010 5:49:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		In Vegas, prostitution is legal. I didn't go search the stats to find out if the pregnancy rates are higher in Vegas, but I'm sure if someone wanted to they could.

If prostitution was legal, than those who are prostitutes would be legally employed thereby allowing them access to employer provided healthcare. This would eliminate a lot of the 'crack whore' types where sexual health (think STDs) aren't a major concern. A person who was legally employed as a prostitute who had adequate employer provided healthcare would have the ability to acquire routine exams on a more frequent basis.

If pregnancy is a major concern, obviously the use of condoms with birth control will provide a better prevention of child birth. While it isn't a guarantee, at least birth control would be more affordable and available to a person who is legally employed rather than one who is being pimped out by someone who is taking all the money.

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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/11/2010 5:50:50 PM   
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Sex CAN HAS and will forEVER lead to children, can you say over population?


We are already overpopulated (the human species is definitely becoming a victim of it’s own success). Short of a world wide authoritarian government that imposes drastic population controls it is likely (but by no means guaranteed) that the trend will continue until people outstrip resources, the system crashes, and there is a massive dieback. It won’t be pleasant I am sure but fortunately for the current generation – it doesn’t look like it will happen in our lifetimes (but I could be wrong on that, too).

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Marriage its SELF isnt something thats lasting and you want it to be legal for people to marry more then one person.. I have a feeling that will make marriage a dead art.. Whats the point its the vow to another person.. why make that vow if your also going to give it to who ever else...?


I don’t think it is yours, or mine, or society’s place to dictate how people wish to group together family relationships. If one man wants to marry seven women (and they are all okay with that) or vice-versa, why shouldn’t they? If three or four people want to create a family unit (and that is what marriage essentially is – the creation of a new family unit), why shouldn’t they? Your question involves your vision of what a marriage should be which I see as unnecessarily restrictive. Legalizing multiple marriages still allows for the “old fashioned” one man/one woman marriage which – despite the fears of religious/social conservatives – would probably remain the dominate model (at least in Western Society) for years to come.

To boil it down, to me it is simple a matter of live and let live.

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and topless would be to many wrecks.. and to many people... WAY to many people SHOULDNT BE TOPLESS MY GODS


I pretty much answered this in my response to level but I will add that I agree that some people should not be seen topless – but it is still a matter of live and let live.


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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/11/2010 6:01:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		The pill may be slightly less effective for women who are very overweight. Talk with your health care provider if you are concerned about how well the pill may work for you.


For most women of average height...meaning a range of 5'0 to 5'7... being 180 IS CONSIDERED VERY OVER WEIGHT.


So.. I do think what im posting IS fact... Why because if by your OWN ommission its only 92 to 99 when taken correctly if its LESS effective in women who are VERY overweight.. it would be LESS then 93 percent... ANYTHING hormone based is LESS effective when you add more weight, Its why someone whos 90 pounds gets prescribed 100 mgs of something and someone 200 pounds gets prescribed 500mgs of the same medicine.

So please do me a favor READ the website before you go fact picking..

(http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/birth-control/birth-control-pill-4228.htm For any that feel the need to check scroll down and click how effective are birth control pills)





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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/11/2010 6:07:35 PM   
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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/11/2010 6:40:53 PM   
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The pill may be slightly less effective for women who are very overweight.



Yeah, except this is what you posted initially:

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In fact the pill Is around about 93 percent in those under 180 pounds.



And... there's no need to shout so loudly. Really, there isn't.

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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/11/2010 6:43:52 PM   
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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/11/2010 6:52:46 PM   
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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/11/2010 6:58:15 PM   
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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/18/2010 5:40:43 PM   
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Why is it illegal, because second hand smoke can when inhaled for a long period of time can KILL other peopl

And I personally like to go to a bar.. and not die from inhaling someone elses smoke.. You want to smoke just fine dont involve OTHERS in your choices non consensually


that exactly ^^

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All victimless crimes should be abolished.
Prostitution
Gambling
Drugs

 
Prostitution, gambling and drugs are not victimless crimes. gambling especially.

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Marijuana is an herb from the earth. And to quote the bible here "God has given us all the seed bearing plants and herbs to use".


Marijuana isn't an herb, its a nightshade and is not much less harmful than tabacco as far as lung cancer goes. I have no problem with it or legalizing it, though I do have a problem with doing so just because a bible quote says so.

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Seatbelt laws and helmet laws drive me crazy. I'm 43. nuff said.


and they save thousands of peoples lives.

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Actually I think most drugs whould be legal, with the usual disclaimers, adult use, don't drive, blah blah. Especially vicodin and valium. Right off the shelf at Rite-Aid. All day long..


that screams of someone who has a current or past history of drug abuse. a disclaimer would do nothing for 95% of drugs. People who use heroin, coke, etc.. are already addicted. that idea would only serve to skyrocket the number of people that use such drugs.

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Fucking love the stuff. Had it in England about ten years ago. I have seen some sights that proclaim to ship the read deal but I dont know, for 200 bucks a bottle I want to see that green fairy guaranteed.


200 bucks a bottle? you got seriously ripped off. contrary to popular belief, unless somebody has spiked it with something, you don't see shit with absinthe. thats a myth.

as for suicide....its illegal for the fact that most people who want to do so are mentally ill to begin with. most are not in the correct state of mind to make such a decision.

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You do know that we have birth control and that it's not illegal, right? It's not like prostitutes are going to start getting pregnant just because prostitution is legal

 
Never seen a prostitute that used or enforced birth control. know how many end up pregnant? you'll never see one thats been doing it for more than a couple of years that hasn't had a kid or an abortion. if you don't believe me take a trip to any big city. east vancouver is a good example.

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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/18/2010 5:49:51 PM   
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How about being allowed to make a turn left or right at a red traffic light if there's no traffic coming?


In Michigan you can turn right on red, but not left. Well unless it's one where you have to turn right to turn left, but you'd have to live here to understand that one.


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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/18/2010 6:16:56 PM   
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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/20/2010 12:01:44 AM   
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War except for stopping genocide or mass murder that has been clearly documented with supported independent evidence, and for defense against real attempts to invade a country's territory not if somebody says they might and we don't like them..

It should be illegal for retired politicians, high ranking civil servants or military officers to be involved in lobbying or executive positions in companies that produce arms and weapon related products or technology.

Companies involved in the manufactureof items designed to kill people should not have the right to lobby government. Their records must be carefully and openly inspected to know who they sell to and what they sell and the financials just like any other business.

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RE: Should it be legal? - 2/20/2010 8:21:41 AM   
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