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Moonhead -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 10:02:13 AM)

Do you think Stormfront's one of his sources?




Jeffff -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 10:03:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Do you think Stormfront's one of his sources?



No, I think they are his sponsor.


Jeff




thornhappy -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 10:04:52 AM)

Cuck, would you federally fund all those programs that states would have to take on?  Because I can tell you right now that the states couldn't handle them without some amazingly high taxes.  As the fed cut taxes and transfers to the states, the state and local governments had to increase taxes to make up the difference.

As for not wanting to wipe our parents' butts - if my parents were disabled to that extent, I'd have to get some kind of care for them (in home or out, preferably in-home).  I'm the only kid left, and work full time with frequent travel.  Would you let me use welfare to stay home full time?




cuckyman -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 12:28:46 PM)

This thread reminds me of a bunch of little yapping ankle biting dogs... It was the Republican congress under Newt that balanced the budget (not horn dog Clinton) and Reagan had a democrat congress he had to make deals with the devils to bring back our readiness to defend the nation eroded under Carter...)  Republicans have ALWAYS stood for limited government... and the contol of spending...to hear a lame ass socialist demopuke extolling a democrat lie about who is responsible for the crash.... I highly suggest you look at the community re-investment act and Clinton thru Barney Frank and company for wrecking Fannie and Freddie giving loans to people that could not repay them and guarenteeing them thru the federal government....  It makes NO difference what the demopukes say....they are about to thrown the hell out on the street....it is going to be a democrat bloodbatch come November...now perhaps all you stooges can tell me why?.... hmmmmm?....you can fool some of the people some of the time...but then they wake up and throw your sorry ass out!....bye bye Obamaheads....he is about to become HISTORY! loving every second of  his crash and burn......  eat shit and die demofucks!




mnottertail -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 12:30:35 PM)

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

dismissed out of hand you fuckin cretin.




Jeffff -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 12:31:04 PM)

The Warrior Hero returns............................

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnn




UncleNasty -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 12:35:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

they should all be shot.


I favor locking them in a cell and leaving them to starve. Saves the cost of a bullet. You can cycle a new batch through every two weeks - just send them in to clean out the cell, and when it's empty, lock them inside. Repeat until you run out of thieves.



This form of execution was abandoned by England several hundred years ago because they believed it was TOO inhumane. They replaced it with the piling on of millstones until the allegedly guilty party was crushed to death.

Uncle Nasty




UncleNasty -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 12:37:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

At this time, I , am prepared to accept the title of "Emperor". If not Me who? If not now when?

They know where to reach Me. They are probably reading this.


His Excellency Jeff


I like anteaters well enough and all, but I don't think I want one being in charge of the country.

Uncle Nasty




mnottertail -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 12:40:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: UncleNasty

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

they should all be shot.


I favor locking them in a cell and leaving them to starve. Saves the cost of a bullet. You can cycle a new batch through every two weeks - just send them in to clean out the cell, and when it's empty, lock them inside. Repeat until you run out of thieves.



This form of execution was abandoned by England several hundred years ago because they believed it was TOO inhumane. They replaced it with the piling on of millstones until the allegedly guilty party was crushed to death.

Uncle Nasty




Here in the one posting we have the crux of the WTC towers pancaking and Zyklon B in the gas chambers, I fear that with this dense a pangyric, our poor and very own RealOne stands to blow a head pipe.

There will be circles and arrows and paragraphs of complete foolishness and misunderstanding now......




Moonhead -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 12:54:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: UncleNasty

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

At this time, I , am prepared to accept the title of "Emperor". If not Me who? If not now when?

They know where to reach Me. They are probably reading this.


His Excellency Jeff


I like anteaters well enough and all, but I don't think I want one being in charge of the country.

Uncle Nasty


Whyever not? At least you won't have to worry about the evil feds spending a fortune to fumigate the white house with an anteater in residence.




mnottertail -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 1:13:19 PM)

Where are all the 'self professed conservatives'?




Brain -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 1:40:47 PM)

It was Ronald Reagan who/is was the cause of these problems. Ronald Reagan was the cause of the problems because he reversed all of the good policies Carter started to get the United States off of foreign oil. Unfortunately, Thaddeus has got it backwards.

Carter established a clear goal. "Beginning this moment, this nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never. From now on, every new addition to our demand for energy will be met from our own production and our own conservation." By the end of the 1980s, the nation would reduce "our dependence on foreign oil by one-half."

To achieve these goals Carter requested of Congress "the most massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from unconventional gas, from the sun."

For Carter, fairness was to be an important criterion in shaping energy policy. Since the poor suffer most from rising energy prices, "Our nation must be fair to the poorest among us, so we will increase aid to needy Americans to cope with rising energy prices ... ."

Carter also applied the principle to the other end of the wealth spectrum: the oil companies reaping enormous profits because of OPEC-inspired price hikes.
"Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay," Carter insisted. "It will be money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by Americans to Americans."

Congress enacted much of what Jimmy Carter proposed. Coupled with the energy-efficiency standards for cars enacted by an earlier Democratic Congress, and the passage in 1978 of five energy bills directed at spurring energy efficiency and renewable energy, the Energy Security Act of 1980 created a comprehensive and coherent energy policy directed toward eliminating our dependence on imported oil.

Why don't we remember this? In part, because Ronald Reagan entered office only a year after Carter's speech and immediately set about dismantling or dramatically cutting back most of the programs enacted in the 1970s. The energy crisis subsided. A severe worldwide economic downturn in 1981 and 1982 cut the price of crude oil by 75 percent. Depending on imported oil didn't seem so important. The nation dropped back into lethargy.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1010-27.htm




Brain -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 1:44:06 PM)

You need to read the thread I started written by Al Hunt. Obama Defies Critics by Holding to Radical Center: Albert Hunt

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Are you really complaining because you don't think the people you mentioned were conservative enough with their spending habits? Or are you just trying to find cover for Obama's fiscally insane policies.






Musicmystery -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 3:39:33 PM)

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It was the Republican congress under Newt that balanced the budget (not horn dog Clinton) and Reagan had a democrat congress he had to make deals with the devils to bring back our readiness to defend the nation eroded under Carter...)  Republicans have ALWAYS stood for limited government.


Certainly not since 2000.




Thadius -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 3:44:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Brain

It was Ronald Reagan who/is was the cause of these problems. Ronald Reagan was the cause of the problems because he reversed all of the good policies Carter started to get the United States off of foreign oil. Unfortunately, Thaddeus has got it backwards.

Carter established a clear goal. "Beginning this moment, this nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never. From now on, every new addition to our demand for energy will be met from our own production and our own conservation." By the end of the 1980s, the nation would reduce "our dependence on foreign oil by one-half."

To achieve these goals Carter requested of Congress "the most massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from unconventional gas, from the sun."

For Carter, fairness was to be an important criterion in shaping energy policy. Since the poor suffer most from rising energy prices, "Our nation must be fair to the poorest among us, so we will increase aid to needy Americans to cope with rising energy prices ... ."

Carter also applied the principle to the other end of the wealth spectrum: the oil companies reaping enormous profits because of OPEC-inspired price hikes.
"Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay," Carter insisted. "It will be money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by Americans to Americans."

Congress enacted much of what Jimmy Carter proposed. Coupled with the energy-efficiency standards for cars enacted by an earlier Democratic Congress, and the passage in 1978 of five energy bills directed at spurring energy efficiency and renewable energy, the Energy Security Act of 1980 created a comprehensive and coherent energy policy directed toward eliminating our dependence on imported oil.

Why don't we remember this? In part, because Ronald Reagan entered office only a year after Carter's speech and immediately set about dismantling or dramatically cutting back most of the programs enacted in the 1970s. The energy crisis subsided. A severe worldwide economic downturn in 1981 and 1982 cut the price of crude oil by 75 percent. Depending on imported oil didn't seem so important. The nation dropped back into lethargy.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1010-27.htm



Ah, good times. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Insane inflation, gas lines down the block, and that last 300+ days of his presidency definitely put him in my top 5 of best presidents.




Jeffff -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 3:46:35 PM)

There is a difference between rhetoric and reality.


Jeff




Musicmystery -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 3:47:57 PM)

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gas lines down the block


That was Nixon


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Insane inflation


True--but shared with Ford and Reagan.




Musicmystery -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 3:49:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

There is a difference between rhetoric and reality.


Jeff


At what point does he wake up and realize he's being played?




Jeffff -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 3:53:05 PM)

You can only hope there is a epiphany.

The nature of a board like this is to polarize people.Rich takes a stand, Ron diagrees.....

We are all probably closer than most would like to admit..


Jeff




thompsonx -> RE: Why Do Conservatives Love to Bankrupt Us?? (2/16/2010 4:19:39 PM)

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We are all probably closer than most would like to admit..


Yeah...now back the fuck up and watch where you go putting that thang[;)]




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