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should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 6:56:18 PM   
osf


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Status: offline 		if she comes to the relationship claiming to be submissive/slave can the dominant take it for granted she is?


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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 6:57:52 PM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		sure..why not? Anything or anyone can be taken for granted. Just a fact of life.



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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 7:05:47 PM   
ourmsbetty


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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 7:07:30 PM   
lucylucy


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Status: offline 		Sure, but the Dominant should also understand that submission isn't one-size-fits-all and her submission may not look like someone else's. osf, you know damn well that there isn't one definition of "submissive." A Dominant can take it for granted that she identifies as submissive, but what exactly that means to her he can't take for granted.

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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 7:09:42 PM   
CelticNightmare


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Status: offline 		It could be a little confusing if the top thinks "submission" means "does what I want"

But it means exactly the same thing to her.

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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 7:13:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just because she's submissive doesn't mean she'll be submissive to you.

And taking a partner for granted is a good way to lose that partner.

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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 7:13:29 PM   
Jeffff


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Status: offline 		He can always release her if it doesn't work out.

I like to release mine back into the wild. You have to be careful though, if she has human stink all over her the other subs might peck her to death.

It is best not to mention that if it happens. Some submissives can be so squeamish.

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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 7:16:23 PM   
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I like to release mine back into the wild. You have to be careful though, if she has human stink all over her the other subs might peck her to death.

The coffee I shouldn't be drinking this late just shot out my nose and it's your fault.

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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 7:20:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

He can always release her if it doesn't work out.

I like to release mine back into the wild. You have to be careful though, if she has human stink all over her the other subs might peck her to death.

It is best not to mention that if it happens. Some submissives can be so squeamish.

Jeff



Are you insinuating that Doms are actually human? Better watch out, before you go ruining the reputation of others.

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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 7:23:55 PM   
CelticNightmare


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Status: offline 		Hear hear! I thought I was supposed to be a horrible,nasty evil PREDATOR.

Something between a rabid wolverine and an oranguntang on speed! After all,isn't that why so much PROTECTION is needed?


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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

He can always release her if it doesn't work out.

I like to release mine back into the wild. You have to be careful though, if she has human stink all over her the other subs might peck her to death.

It is best not to mention that if it happens. Some submissives can be so squeamish.

Jeff



Are you insinuating that Doms are actually human? Better watch out, before you go ruining the reputation of others.


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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 7:36:18 PM   
afkarr


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ORIGINAL: CelticNightmare

Hear hear! I thought I was supposed to be a horrible,nasty evil PREDATOR.

Something between a rabid wolverine and an oranguntang on speed! After all,isn't that why so much PROTECTION is needed?




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ORIGINAL: afkarr


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

He can always release her if it doesn't work out.

I like to release mine back into the wild. You have to be careful though, if she has human stink all over her the other subs might peck her to death.

It is best not to mention that if it happens. Some submissives can be so squeamish.

Jeff



Are you insinuating that Doms are actually human? Better watch out, before you go ruining the reputation of others.






It's an oranguntang on crack....and I've met him. Puts a whole new light on the phrase "spank the monkey"....

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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 7:45:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: osf

if she comes to the relationship claiming to be submissive/slave can the dominant take it for granted she is?




No more, or less, then a sub can that 'he' is a Dom, just becasue he claims he is.

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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 8:08:50 PM   
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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 8:13:57 PM   
HisSweetElysium


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Just because she's submissive doesn't mean she'll be submissive to you.


Or stay that way, if you take her for granted.


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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 8:16:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Where do you come up with these ridiculous questions, osf?

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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 8:19:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss Where do you come up with these ridiculous questions, osf?


It's written in the big book: "how to raise ducklins..."

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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 8:27:20 PM   
osf


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ORIGINAL: lucylucy

Sure, but the Dominant should also understand that submission isn't one-size-fits-all and her submission may not look like someone else's. osf, you know damn well that there isn't one definition of "submissive." A Dominant can take it for granted that she identifies as submissive, but what exactly that means to her he can't take for granted.



in my own thinking i don't even think submissive or slave but obedience

personally i've always said it's a team sport

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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 8:29:15 PM   
osf


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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Where do you come up with these ridiculous questions, osf?


i was bored

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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 8:31:11 PM   
littlebitxxx


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Maybe a certain amount needs to be taken for granted (and with a grain of salt), sorta like taking a person at face value as you get to know them better.  You can't always judge a book by its cover.  From the kneel side, a Dom needs to be taken for granted (and with a pound of salt) as well until one can ascertain whether they truly are or not.  Or....they may actually be submissive or dominant "for someone else" and not you.  If they don't suit, it doesn't mean they are not.  Just not for you.   Mind you, in the case of some, they really really aren't but you'd find that out soon enough.  (hopefully)


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RE: should her submission be taken for granted - 2/16/2010 8:37:33 PM   
lucylucy


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ORIGINAL: lucylucy
Sure, but the Dominant should also understand that submission isn't one-size-fits-all and her submission may not look like someone else's. osf, you know damn well that there isn't one definition of "submissive." A Dominant can take it for granted that she identifies as submissive, but what exactly that means to her he can't take for granted.

in my own thinking i don't even think submissive or slave but obedience


Then why not ask "if she comes to the relationship claiming to be obedient can the dominant take it for granted she is?"



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