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MasterSlaveLA -> RE: in need of an opinion please.. (2/20/2010 1:01:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucienne

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

Summary:  Neither of you are ready for a 24/7, "live in" dynamic.  He has some SERIOUS issues to deal with and you BOTH need some maturing.  Again... just take the pressure off by telling him you love him and would like to make things work, but not to worry about moving in together right now.  Tell him, if he wants to work things out, that you'd love to wipe the table clean and start over again, but WITHOUT making any long term plans till you BOTH are SURE you want to be with each other long-term and are BOTH prepared to be RESPONSIBLE TO, and ACCOUNTABLE FOR, each other.  And once more, if he's NOT actively getting help/counseling for his DID, it ain't NEVER gonna work... WITH ANYONE!!!  

So, give him the space he wants... and should he contact you, WATCH FOR RED FLAGS, while also telling him it's likely best for both of you to just to see how things go for a while before making any long-term plans and ensure he's seeking the help/counseling he may need.  TIME will resolve this for you... THERE'S NO URGENCY HERE... if you're as concerned about your "future" as you've stated you are, then take the TIME to ensure this is the right relationship for you.  You'll see... it'll NATURALLY go one way or the other; just like ANY relationship does.  When it comes to the "relationship" portion of BDSM Dynamics they are no different from Vanilla ones... always remember this.  If the "relationship" is not strong, the BDSM portion of it is DOOMED!!!  Forcus on the relationship first (treat it no differently from getting to know a Vanilla partner), and if that's good/strong... only THEN move on to the BDSM stuff.

Most couples ('nilla or of the BDSM sort) face challenges in their relationships, as NO relationship is without its problems... the issue is NOT whether you've been presented with challenges/problems, but HOW YOU ADDRESS THOSE CHALLENGES/OBSTACLES.  Where there's love and commitment, BOTH PEOPLE will work towards a resolve.  Where there isn't (and only one person is doing all the work), then it's ultimately doomed to failure... GUARANTEED!!!

My Best!!! [:)]





All that would be lovely advice if they were trapped on a desert island and he was her only hope for companionship. But for fuck's sake.. we're talking about a couple of 18 year olds. Presumably living in a first world nation with significant opportunity and a sizeable population. If I were a person intent on encouraging misery in others, I'd encourage an 18 year old girl to waste a bunch of time and emotional energy on the sort of romantic relationship most fully formed adults lack the skills to handle.



You haven't been paying attention to the OP, and likely have forgotten what it was like to be an 18 year old and "in love" with someone.  She may as well be "trapped on a desert island" where (to her) nobody else does exist.  Additionally, there is no urgency here, no matter how many people in this forum tell her to DUMP HIM; that's HER decision to make IF SHE DECIDES TO MAKE THAT DECISION... it's not like her tits are gonna fall off at midnight if she doesn't do what people in this forum think she should do.

It's NOT "encouraging misery"... it's being truthful with the person, letting them know their options, potential challenges, and letting THEM make the decision THEY want to make; which is TREATING HER/THEM AS "ADULTS".  Everyone else can go pound sand... she/they are going to do WHAT THEY WANT TO DO... WHEN THEY WANT TO DO IT... and THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN TODAY; despite what anyone here thinks. Period.  All of this will sort itself out in its own time. No amount of forum ranting will change that.





ownedkatt -> RE: in need of an opinion please.. (2/22/2010 10:50:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

You haven't been paying attention to the OP, and likely have forgotten what it was like to be an 18 year old and "in love" with someone.  She may as well be "trapped on a desert island" where (to her) nobody else does exist.  Additionally, there is no urgency here, no matter how many people in this forum tell her to DUMP HIM; that's HER decision to make IF SHE DECIDES TO MAKE THAT DECISION... it's not like her tits are gonna fall off at midnight if she doesn't do what people in this forum think she should do.

It's NOT "encouraging misery"... it's being truthful with the person, letting them know their options, potential challenges, and letting THEM make the decision THEY want to make; which is TREATING HER/THEM AS "ADULTS".  Everyone else can go pound sand... she/they are going to do WHAT THEY WANT TO DO... WHEN THEY WANT TO DO IT... and THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN TODAY; despite what anyone here thinks. Period.  All of this will sort itself out in its own time. No amount of forum ranting will change that.



i would just like to address the love issue first.. a month after we started talking, i asked Him if slaves ever fell in love with their Masters; He said some did, but it was rare, and that it was even more rare for the Master to love the slave in return. about a week later -He- said that He loved me.. personally,, being young, the only other person i had ever loved died a year before from an overdose and i didnt want to tell anyone that i loved them back, regardless of who it was. i still waited another month before i told my Master that i loved Him in return. (i am still getting over the death, and my Master has been helping me wonderfully). i used to tell my Master everyday that i loved Him, but He wouldnt always say it back, so i ended up not saying it for about a week.. He then started worrying and believed that i was going to leave Him because i wasnt saying it. so He started to say it multiple times a day over and over. He has been saying it less and less and now if i say i love Him or i miss Him its either 'I know' or 'ditto'. so im not sure what to make of that...

other people do exsist to me (please, im not trying to argue, i would just like to point this out as well). many guys have asked me out since i have been with my Master and most of the time, if i know the person well enough, i will explain to them that i am in a M/s relationship. most of the time they will understand, others wont give up, and yet others will try and stop out relationship. i realize that if i left Him, i could have my pick of guys, but i dont want that. i would like my Master and i to be able to sort out our problems. but i dont know how to go about that without causing a problem because im asking Him questions. He feels as though i should know the answers already.

im just looking for guidance, and as i keep saying, thank you to all who are trying to help, but i really would like to thank MasterSlaveLA because you have really been even through out your comments and giving the actual help and guidance that i need.




LafayetteLady -> RE: in need of an opinion please.. (2/22/2010 8:00:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ownedkatt


i would just like to address the love issue first.. a month after we started talking, i asked Him if slaves ever fell in love with their Masters; He said some did, but it was rare, and that it was even more rare for the Master to love the slave in return. about a week later -He- said that He loved me.. personally,, being young, the only other person i had ever loved died a year before from an overdose and i didnt want to tell anyone that i loved them back, regardless of who it was. i still waited another month before i told my Master that i loved Him in return. (i am still getting over the death, and my Master has been helping me wonderfully). i used to tell my Master everyday that i loved Him, but He wouldnt always say it back, so i ended up not saying it for about a week.. He then started worrying and believed that i was going to leave Him because i wasnt saying it. so He started to say it multiple times a day over and over. He has been saying it less and less and now if i say i love Him or i miss Him its either 'I know' or 'ditto'. so im not sure what to make of that...

other people do exsist to me (please, im not trying to argue, i would just like to point this out as well). many guys have asked me out since i have been with my Master and most of the time, if i know the person well enough, i will explain to them that i am in a M/s relationship. most of the time they will understand, others wont give up, and yet others will try and stop out relationship. i realize that if i left Him, i could have my pick of guys, but i dont want that. i would like my Master and i to be able to sort out our problems. but i dont know how to go about that without causing a problem because im asking Him questions. He feels as though i should know the answers already.

im just looking for guidance, and as i keep saying, thank you to all who are trying to help, but i really would like to thank MasterSlaveLA because you have really been even through out your comments and giving the actual help and guidance that i need.


First, anyone who tells you that something "rarely," "never," or "always" is the way relationships work is showing you how young and inexperienced they are. Why? Because there is really nothing "normal," only normal for those two people involved. For example, many people believe that Saturday is "date night" in the "vanilla" dating world. But does that mean that a couple *has* to see each other on Saturdays? Of course not.

The problem in your situation is that being you are both only 18, neither one of you has experience to really speak of as adults. It's impossible because y'all haven't actually BEEN adults for long. Part of this is evidenced by him telling you that a "master" *rarely* falls in love with his slave and then a week later is telling you that he does. Kind of a contradiction, don't you think? On one hand, many could see this as a "head game" where he is telling you this so you think you have that "rarity" he spoke of. I think it is more that even though he said that, being pretty much still a kid, he forgot about that and told you how he was feeling. Nothing wrong with that. And there is nothing wrong with you waiting to tell him that you loved him until you felt more sure. It takes some guts to not instantly say it back and have the courage to wait until you are ready when you are hearing it. But again, the youth of you and him comes out when he thinks because you aren't saying it, it means you are going to leave. That will only change as you both grow up.

The other problem is that neither of you are psychic. He expects you (in a rather short period of time) to be able to know what he wants and what he is thinking at all times. I have been with my boyfriend for 14 years and I know him VERY well, but I can't always know what he wants or what he is thinking anymore than he can know it about me. Again, it is the immaturity speaking when he says and thinks that and it is something that needs to get sorted out.

The whole Dissociative Personality Disorder "claim" (because I don't honestly believe he suffers from it) is something else entirely. This is more a matter of having an excuse for certain behavior, because he can blame an "other."

Right now, you need to take a step back and evaluate the situation. You need to make clear to him that before anything can more forward or even stay the same, the two of you need to sit and have a serious discussion about your expectations of a life with each other. You need to be very clear with him that NOTHING will be happening until that is done.

Good luck.




nu2slvry -> RE: in need of an opinion please.. (2/26/2010 10:11:35 PM)

It sounds verbally abusive to me, i would do anything to GET OUT of that situation, period.




CelticPrince -> RE: in need of an opinion please.. (3/11/2010 6:49:27 PM)

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this is the latest quote from Him from my just telling Him that i wouldnt ask Him again.

'Just go away then. Stay in your little hell. Stay far away from Me.'


ownedkatt,

A nick change is in order! you have been set free. Now learn from the experience.

CP




osf -> RE: in need of an opinion please.. (3/12/2010 6:56:41 AM)

It all boils down to what being a slave means to her and she will have to base her decision on that.




Missokyst -> RE: in need of an opinion please.. (3/12/2010 8:18:27 AM)

OP he is 18 and has had years of experience?




squina -> RE: in need of an opinion please.. (3/14/2010 8:35:11 AM)

If he realy is your Master, and friend, he should take care of you, and not leaving you that way without releasing you.

Mine, if I miss something crucial, and lost the clue, he reminds me torturing hard letting me repeating so I will never forget it.





dmarc -> RE: in need of an opinion please.. (3/14/2010 10:44:06 AM)

A Master should always have a slaves well being in mind, physical and mental. The coments that he has made and the mood swings that he has shown do not sound suitable for the lifestyle you are in.

I know your in love, and when in love you want to do everything to help him. But the love must come from both sides and this sounds like its only from yours.

I am sorry but it sounds like the best option is to move on, It certainly sounds the healthest.







DomBlade64 -> RE: in need of an opinion please.. (3/15/2010 6:27:30 PM)

Sounds like a DRAMA QUEEN to me. Feel out the situation. Perhaps there is more than on the surface?

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omething wrong, but i cant come to any conclusion.

please.. any thoughts for what might be going on with Him? of course i know that everyone, and of course every Master, is different, but is there a common theme that could be happening with Him?
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ORIGINAL: ownedkatt

my Master and i have been together for a little over 6 months now. we used to be extremely open talking for hours on end about everything. for the last few months we havent been talking as much and when we do, He always seems to get annoyed over the smallest things. for instance, i asked Him a question last night about going on a trip with Him and he changed the subject. so i asked Him again today and he started yelling about how i didnt act like His slave and how he just wants me away from Him. ive thought of every possible way that i could have done something wrong, but i cant come to any conclusion.

please.. any thoughts for what might be going on with Him? of course i know that everyone, and of course every Master, is different, but is there a common theme that could be happening with Him?

thank you..







mastFOX -> RE: in need of an opinion please.. (3/15/2010 6:33:36 PM)

this sound like it is only  going to get worse. your best thing to do is leave. but I leave how up to you.





dragon200070 -> RE: in need of an opinion please.. (4/27/2010 2:39:49 PM)

There can be many explanations. But it sure sounds like he's no longer enthralled with you. When he wants time away from you, that's a major sign of trouble.

You both need to examine your relationships and find answers.

JEff




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