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RE: Forced Masculinization - 2/20/2010 8:21:32 AM

LadyAngelika

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I'm going to give you an alternative way of looking at things MsStarlett. I posted this just 40 minutes ago on another thread and I feel it applies in response to your point.

I think that there are some exceptional men on this earth who crave to serve an great woman. That said, not every woman that slaps the Domme label on herself is a great woman.

Now taking the "greatness" factor out of it, there is also the issue of compatibility. I've met some amazing submissive men who I'm not very compatible with. This happens as well.

But bottom line, I refuse to put all the blame and the brunt on the men in this instance. I have no idea how any of this can be productive.

I'd also like to add that above and beyond all this, all men wanking to the image of a Dominatrix is not inherently a submissive man. He is a Domme fetishist. I've gone on enough first dates with this type to spot them a mile away now. I have stopped making the mistake of putting them in the same category of the wonderful men I've met who truly want to serve. Of this kind, there is only a handful.

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RE: Forced Masculinization - 2/20/2010 9:19:05 AM

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You know, the really sad thing is I had a well thought out and well written response to your original question but then I read this <snipped> and figured why bother if you weren't being serious. I really don't understand the reason for the "yes I am...no I'm not" way of posting.

He's being a troll, but I think the question itself is interesting, so I'll answer anyway. I'm not going to date him or get involved with him under any circumstances anyway, so it's all hypothetical.

Most "sissy" men have to dress and act in at least reasonably masculine ways in order to fit in at work and in their community. So, generally, I would think of "masculinizing" them as more a question of the right time and place for them to express their feminine side I occasionally do like playing with gender stereotypes and impressions, so having him dress and act in a way that almost satirizes the stereotypical sports-fanatic macho man *might* be amusing on rare occasion, in the right circumstances. I suppose if he's completely disinterested in sports, that punishing him by making him memorise sports trivia or some such might be an effective deterrent - less mindless than writing sentences, more boring than an essay on something interesting. Most likely, I wouldn't bother with that, as punishment generally hasn't fit into my dynamic in general. I suppose I could have him dress like a drag king - wear soft falsies, then flatten them with duct tape, have him wear a fake mustache, etc. It wouldn't have the same effect as having him (or her - I've thought about doing this with my female submissive playpartner) dress up as a drag queen, since drag kings don't generally go so "over the top."

I don't think there's inherently anything about cross-dressers which keeps them from being courtly gentlemen, masculine, strong, and so forth.

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RE: Forced Masculinization - 2/20/2010 9:43:58 AM

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"I don't think there's inherently anything about cross-dressers which keeps them from being courtly gentlemen, masculine, strong, and so forth."

At the end of the day, aren't the most attractive and valuable traits in each gender just simply attractive and valuable human traits?

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RE: Forced Masculinization - 2/20/2010 10:02:20 AM

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To some extent, yes, but most women don't act in ways that I specifically perceive as "gentlemanly." That might have more to do with me than with their actual behaviour, I'd have to think about that. When a man does things like hold the door open for me, or gives me flowers, or holds my hand as we weave through a crowded room, it makes me feel completely differently than when a woman does the same things. Even if he's gay, or is involved with someone else, it just pushes different buttons. When I'm upset and call my Master, or one of my male friends, I usually calm down as soon as I hear their voice. I tend to be more grounded and less moody when I'm around them than with my female friends. I *like* men who are big and strong enough to be able to easily pick me up, wrestle around, and so forth. Most women tend to feel more delicate and fragile to me, even if they're still bigger than I am, so I tend to be a lot more careful with them.

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RE: Forced Masculinization - 2/20/2010 10:10:47 AM

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I don't think there's inherently anything about cross-dressers which keeps them from being courtly gentlemen, masculine, strong, and so forth.

That's the point: a strong, courtly gentleman after he has been rebuffed will say 'thanks' to our 'No thanks', and move on, no matter what he's wearing.
This is the problem: an entitled do-me bottom will flame us for not being enraptured in his fetish.
It's one thing to be disappointed [former] which is pitiable, it's another to be enraged [latter] which is contemptible.

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RE: Forced Masculinization - 2/20/2010 10:12:44 AM

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RE: Forced Masculinization - 2/20/2010 10:24:55 AM

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On the precept that many Dommes enjoy having their subs do things that the subs dislike doing...has anyone ever heard of making a sissy behave, dress, etc. in a hyper-masculine fashion?

Yes, it happens all the time when someone who is drawn strongly to genderbending, and their partner doesn't like it. And I think there are some potentially serious issues to think about here. My thoughts on the matter are summed up here.

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