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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: BLoved
The god of the old testament is the god of the new.

Which god of the Old Testament? He most certainly was not, unless according to the magical paradigm. In fact, even the New Testament is outdated. People had better listen to my counsel: Accept disease and death and do not circumcise your male population. (Hm, that is actually what the Christians have been saying all along.)

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ORIGINAL: Thadius
Just like we wouldn't sit by and watch somebody stoned for adultery today.

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: Thadius
Just like we wouldn't sit by and watch somebody stoned for adultery today.

In December 2009 16 year old Medine Memi was buried alive and died in a two meter deep hole in Turkey because she had befriended some boys. Her body was found with swallowed earth in her stomach and lungs and her father and grandfather were arrested this February.

That craziness is what you eventually get in a culture when the population circumcises their males.

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: Thadius
Just like we wouldn't sit by and watch somebody stoned for adultery today.

In December 2009 16 year old Medine Memi was buried alive and died in a two meter deep hole in Turkey because she had befriended some boys. Her body was found with swallowed earth in her stomach and lungs and her father and grandfather were arrested this February.

That craziness is what you eventually get in a culture where the population circumcises their males.

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ORIGINAL: Thadius
And so God is willing to smite those that displease him, the book itself quotes him as saying as much.

Is it his failure, or is it humanity's?

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ORIGINAL: Thadius
So what does any of that have to do with having your foreskin clipped or not?

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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: Thadius
And so God is willing to smite those that displease him, the book itself quotes him as saying as much.

Is it his failure, or is it humanity's?

Well this is where I am reminded of the forgiving god of love we hear about in the new testament.

Does a loving father "smite" his child because he is displeased?

Or does a loving father teach his child with patience and understanding?

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: Thadius
So what does any of that have to do with having your foreskin clipped or not?

Circumcision protects to some degree against various sexually transmitted diseases, especially in the hotter climates. That results in circumcised males and their partners having a higher reproductive success, as they do not suffer as much from the debilitating or sterilizing or lethal effects of such diseases. Thus it becomes evolutionary advantageous to continue circumcising their males. However, at the same time as a population they become relatively more vulnerable to sexually transmitted diseases; whereas non-circumcising populations evolve to become relatively more resistant against sexually transmitted diseases (since their vulnerable individuals have been removed by natural selection).

Thus circumcising populations have both a huge vulnerability for sexually transmitted diseases and will have a better reproductive success from any other behavior that limits the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Vectors of such diseases are homosexuals and adulterous females. Thus repressing both groups is evolutionarily advantageous to populations that circumcise their males. That is why such populations murder adulterous females, stoning them to death, burying or burning them alive, slitting their throats and drowning them in wells.
Evolution may even make such behavior not only cultural, but instinctual, given sufficient time.

The same switch to this kind of 'honor killings' of females will occur in the USA in about a hundred years if they persist in circumcising their males. They are all doomed.

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: Thadius
So what does any of that have to do with having your foreskin clipped or not?

Circumcision protects to some degree against various sexually transmitted diseases, especially in the hotter climates. That results in circumcised males and their partners having a higher reproductive success, as they do not suffer as much from the debilitating or sterilizing or lethal effects of such diseases. Thus it becomes evolutionary advantageous to continue circumcising their males. However, at the same time as a population they become relatively more vulnerable to sexually transmitted diseases; whereas non-circumcising populations evolve to become relatively more resistant against sexually transmitted diseases (since their vulnerable individuals have been removed by natural selection).

Thus circumcising populations have both a huge vulnerability for sexually transmitted diseases and will have a better reproductive success from any other behavior that limits the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Vectors of such diseases are homosexuals and adulterous females. Thus repressing both groups is evolutionarily advantageous to populations that circumcise their males. That is why such populations murder adulterous females, stoning them to death, burying or burning them alive, slitting their throats and drowning them in wells.
Evolution may even make such behavior not only cultural, but instinctual, given sufficient time.

The same switch to this kind of 'honor killings' of females will occur in the USA in about a hundred years if they persist in circumcising their males. They are all doomed.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
Because, of course, the jews have been into honour killing for centuries. That's why everybody hates them, isn't it?

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
that is a large crock of bullshit.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

well, mr. depraved and insane by reason of circumcision honor killer, how did you choose the name moonhead and how many women have you killed you horrid being?

Dr. Faustus