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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 2:51:06 PM   
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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 2:52:59 PM   
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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 2:55:25 PM   
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You would be more convincing if you demonstrated an error in my reasoning.

So according to your reasoning and logical theory, at what point should we see this break down in society? How many generations? Oh and finally, how do you seperate out any other stimuli from being the causation of that breakdown?

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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 3:00:07 PM   
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well does the killing girls urge happen more frequently in warmer or colder climates or is it equally distributed across all dicks regardless of shrinkage or sack sag?


Now you are adding in new variables, wouldn't we have to then determine if the warm weather killings were just "Hey bitch I am hot, and you spilled my beer." related, or that the cold ones weren't for skins to keep warm?



There is a better way to use girls to keep warm than killing them to make a skin coat!!!!

Sorry that was my circumcised penis making me talk irrationally. Obviously, one could use them to fuel a fire.



No, you make them chop and haul the firewood. As well as tend the fire....

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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 3:01:40 PM   
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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 3:09:01 PM   
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We are but dabs on a canvas. It is vanity that makes us feel personally affronted when bad things happen to us and ours.

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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 3:29:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I suppose I could paint with it. Wouldn't want to use oils or acrylics for that, though. Definitely better stick to watercolours...

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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 3:45:57 PM   
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I mean, it worries me when mere mortals can out-think God and are more compassionate when dispensing justice.


Mortals didn't out think him; mortals wrote/created the Genesis story, and wedged God into it.

This still leaves numerous questions; why is there so much suffering, among the innocent? I struggle with that, and don't have an answer, and haven't heard one that satisfies me.

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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 3:49:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Look up "theodicy" on wiki: the mother church has spent centuries inventing excuses for that one.

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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 5:09:59 PM   
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So according to your reasoning and logical theory, at what point should we see this break down in society? How many generations?

I do not know. I expect it to be an exponential process. At a guess I would say that unmistakable consequences ought to manifest after two to three hundred years. As the USA population has foolishly and non-Christianly been circumcising their males for about a hundred years, they may start murdering their adulterous female relative in about one, at most two centuries from now.

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Oh and finally, how do you separate out any other stimuli from being the causation of that breakdown?

Well, recently there was introduced vaccination for girls against genital warts. That might be an additional stimulus.
Also the use of condoms has been quite on the rise during the past century. That also might be a stimulus.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I would rather see, though, that the USA population came to its senses.

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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 5:13:25 PM   
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Look up "theodicy" on wiki: the mother church has spent centuries inventing excuses for that one.


Yeah, but I want answers, not excuses. But there aren't any, not here.

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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 5:17:59 PM   
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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 5:19:45 PM   
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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 5:20:56 PM   
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As the USA population has foolishly and non-Christianly been circumcising their males for about a hundred years, they may start murdering their adulterous female relative in about one, at most two centuries from now.


See, that's the kind of thing that makes me want to go all medieval on you. Weird, huh  ?

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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 5:21:10 PM   
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I mean, it worries me when mere mortals can out-think God and are more compassionate when dispensing justice.


I can out-think the pagan gods of the Jews, even though they had a higher IQ than I have and one of them had some of my abilities. They would probably beat me at chess, though.

I do not know whether I could out-think the Creator and his likes, but they are hardly mentioned in the Old Testament.

Compassion? Some of the pagan gods were compassionate; others were not.

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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 5:24:34 PM   
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lol, but I can't do that, kittin.



I know... but I still question the validity of the innocence argument.

Nobody deserves to suffer, whether they're new, old, powerless or not, whether they're good, or bad, or both, like most of us are. I understand why the pathos of a young baby dying is so much more horrible to our collective mind, but I don't understand why a baby's life is so much more valuable than a grown man's.

The argument of innocence is one made by a sentimentality that I believe stems from a lot of comfort.

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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 5:24:43 PM   
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As the USA population has foolishly and non-Christianly been circumcising their males for about a hundred years, they may start murdering their adulterous female relative in about one, at most two centuries from now.

See, that's the kind of thing that makes me want to go all medieval on you. Weird, huh  ?

Yes, that is weird. It is also reminiscent of the ancient custom of killing the messenger who brings bad news.

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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 5:26:15 PM   
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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 5:27:02 PM   
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RE: About the "Flood" ... - 2/22/2010 5:32:56 PM   
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I know... but I still question the validity of the innocence argument.

Nobody deserves to suffer, whether they're new, old, powerless or not, whether they're good, or bad, or both, like most of us are. I understand why the pathos of a young baby dying is so much more horrible to our collective mind, but I don't understand why a baby's life is so much more valuable than a grown man's.

The argument of innocence is one made by a sentimentality that I believe stems from a lot of comfort.

~ CynicalMoi.


Pol Pot, as an adult, had already screwed the pooch (ruined his life by his actions), whereas a child has not done so; hand me a gun, and if I have to shoot one or the other, Pol Pot would die. That's an extreme example, I know, but that's kinda how I see things.

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