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osf -> RE: where does it end? (2/25/2010 9:42:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys quote: ORIGINAL: osf on another board i asked a question that led to a long running discussion, sometimes amusing and sometimes edifying , here i'd like to ask the women at what point does you sense of slavery/submission end as defined by you? Look osf..Your posting style leaves a bit to be desired...I can usually see through the cloud of mist that seems to surround your topics and get to the heart of a question. As some have pointed out, in an ahole kinda way, it seems like your intentionally being vague to stir the pot. You seem to forget..most people don't have a good gift of insight and all it would take from you are a few more specifics then I think some of this animosity might go away. Maybe.... Honestly I don't hold much hope for the bitter prejudices I see most people displaying but hey..It's worth a shot. Good luck. sometimes people of a like mindset understand what the unstated thing is and it's nice to find them

HisSub1213 -> RE: where does it end? (2/25/2010 10:32:07 AM)
When or if he released me; If he started to be abusive; If he demanded that I do something illegal I'm sure I can think of a few others but today is one of those days, so I'll keep it short. lol

littleone35 -> RE: where does it end? (2/25/2010 12:23:32 PM)
The only way it woulsd ever end was if he did not want me anymore. Since he said he is never letting me go i am not worried about that. Matt's littleone

littlewonder -> RE: where does it end? (2/25/2010 4:21:06 PM)
I've never defined my slavery so I can't answer it from that perspective. My slavery has always been defined by the men I've been involved with. My slavery in general though has ended with another at the point where our relationship ended.

camille65 -> RE: where does it end? (2/25/2010 4:31:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf where does your sense of obligation to obey him ( for whatever reason you feel an obligation to obey him?) come to an end? what would you consider crossing a line? I don't know if/when that would/could come to an end, the only way I can imagine it happening is if he decided I no longer belonged to him. Crossing a line would only happen if he intentionally caused damage, some lines can be uncrossed but others can't. Because of who he is I don't worry about the latter.

lucylucy -> RE: where does it end? (2/25/2010 9:52:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf where does your sense of obligation to obey him ( for whatever reason you feel an obligation to obey him?) come to an end? When/if he says so or he dies. I can't imagine another realistic scenario.

kyraofMists -> RE: where does it end? (2/26/2010 9:38:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kyraofMists ~fast reply In my current relationship, it ends when he says it ends. Knight's Kyra The conundrum this sets up I am finding amusing this morning... Him - "Kyra, stop obeying me" Me - (Being the obedient sort) "Yes, my Lord" or should that be "My Lord, no" and then continue obeying all other instructions....

eyesopened -> RE: where does it end? (2/26/2010 10:03:35 AM)
Maybe upon my death, but I'm not convinced it will end there. Crossing a line? Well in a set of circunstances I can't discuss here, I was once told this: "Be careful not to choose a Master who is too heavy to carry, because it may be necessary to carry Him one day." My heart breaks when I talk to my dad on the phone. He has senile dementia, he sometimes doesn't make sense, he sometimes thinks a thing is quite different than it is. My mother's devotion to him has only increased. They are the most wonderful couple I know. My Master and I may be a close second. My Master gave me a prime directive, an oder that superceeds all others. That is to take care of His best interests, defend Him, protect Him, serve Him. There is no line to cross. Under even the circumstance of losing His ability to think and make decisions, my desire and need to serve and obey doesn't go away. I may have to carry Him. I am His slave. He will never be too heavy.

windchymes -> RE: where does it end? (2/26/2010 10:03:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kyraofMists quote: ORIGINAL: kyraofMists ~fast reply In my current relationship, it ends when he says it ends. Knight's Kyra The conundrum this sets up I am finding amusing this morning... Him - "Kyra, stop obeying me" Me - (Being the obedient sort) "Yes, my Lord" or should that be "My Lord, no" and then continue obeying all other instructions.... LOL, I love thinking like that! :)

truesuboriana -> RE: where does it end? (2/26/2010 10:27:18 AM)
I have had this happen, The situation was where in the initial discussions when the hard limits were discussed. I was very clear in what I would and would not do. I did not do blood, visible bruises or extreme pain. He used to bring me to the edge of my limits several times and would tease the line of them. I accepted that as was His right. But there came a time, when he not only left large visible bruises and cuts on my wrists (during summer) and he beat me till I bled in several other areas. To say I was fearful was an understatement. After the scene was done I sat him down and discussed my fear and the fact he crossed the line. He was nonchalant about it and did not understand that the trust was broken. I had placed myself and my life in his hands and he did not respect the gift I gave him. Therefore I had to end the relationship.

whiteslavebitch -> RE: where does it end? (2/26/2010 10:32:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: antinomy quote: ORIGINAL: osf on another board i asked a question that led to a long running discussion, sometimes amusing and sometimes edifying , here i'd like to ask the women at what point does you sense of slavery/submission end as defined by you? 1) When/if he releases me 2) If he had a negative impact on my children 3) If what we share becomes abusive 4) If he were to become unstable (not saying I'd leave, but the power exchange would be put on hold until we got him help) 5) Death perfect.

trueshadow -> RE: where does it end? (4/3/2010 7:43:37 PM)
Nirvana

catize -> RE: where does it end? (4/3/2010 9:16:18 PM)
I prefer to concentrate on what keeps the relationship healthy and happy. I do think about a future where I won't be able to submit or serve them due to my own health issues But until that time comes (if at all) I'm thinkin' we are like that battery bunny and will keep going and going!

ishyB -> RE: where does it end? (4/3/2010 9:50:39 PM)
My slavery ends when my desire to please myself (in an absolute sense) becomes greater then my desire to please him (in an absolute sense). If pleasing myself is more important than pleasing him, I am obviously not his slave any more, seeing that there is no legal context in which he can force me to be his slave against my will. If my desire to please him is more important than pleasing myself, I will react obediently and pleasing in the end, no matter the struggles it would take to get there, because losing him wouldn't be worth not having to ....... (insert whatever unpleasantness you'd like). This also als counts for him becoming abusive, or unstable, or what have you as well, and is incidentally the reason I think many abused women stay with their partners. Even though he is abusive, staying with him is more important than whatever else is out there (and thus in a sense, staying with him is "worth" the abuse). The perception that nothing out there is worth leaving him for is obviously often a wrong one, but it is still that perception that keeps them there. The same thing would very well apply to a slave, and thus, a slave would be obedient until (from a Western society standpoint) their perception is "cured" and pleasing themselves would again become more important than pleasing the Master. I wish you well, ishy

lally2 -> RE: where does it end? (4/4/2010 3:43:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sublizzie quote: ORIGINAL: osf here i'd like to ask the women at what point does you sense of slavery/submission end as defined by you? I've recently learned that even his death doesn't end my sense of submission to my Dominant. sending hugs))) -

lally2 -> RE: where does it end? (4/4/2010 3:48:07 AM)
when it stops being healthy for either of us. ive made that call when it felt unhealthy for me, him and others, when i saw no reasonable end to any of it or any happy ending.

DesFIP -> RE: where does it end? (4/4/2010 8:42:28 AM)
Brain damage causing him to become effectively someone different. Motorcycle accidents, strokes, etc.If he wasn't him anymore, then the relationship between us would no longer exist.

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