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SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 5:33:06 PM)

[img]http://psychophysical.free.fr/userpix/56_FCO_Rome__Pantheon_dome_with_oculus_01_3008x2000_1.jpg[/img]

Look a structural window![:D]




Rule -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 5:34:25 PM)

Oh, I read about such a keystone in an anthology about Spain or Portugal. Perhaps it was about the Algarve province in Portugal. This particular tale about the dome of a church may have been sometime between the 14th to sixteenth century - but I may be wrong as it has been twenty or thirty years since I read that book.




Rule -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 5:35:26 PM)

Mm, the second Pantheon.




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 5:39:51 PM)

There is no reason why one masonry dome will act differently to another if you ignore factors such as workmanship, quality of materials and how shallow it is etc.




Rule -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 5:44:58 PM)

WTC7 was designed by Emery Roth & Sons.




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 5:50:12 PM)

As an architect, appearance wise, how must thought do you have to put into a rectangular blob? It's the ultimate in function over aesthetics.

You can't fit a desk in a circular space without wastage.




Real0ne -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 5:50:50 PM)

ouch

really?




Real0ne -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 5:51:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

As an architect, appearance wise, how must thought do you have to put into a rectangular blob? It's the ultimate in function over aesthetics.

You can't fit a desk in a circular space without wastage.


sure you can make it a letter c LMAO




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 5:55:54 PM)

Yeah but in your 'C' desk you'll have problems with your drawers, they will be faceted to fit side by side.




Rule -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 6:00:54 PM)

I read it on wikipedia. [;)]




Real0ne -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 6:17:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

Yeah but in your 'C' desk you'll have problems with your drawers, they will be faceted to fit side by side.


to funny, yeh if you design it that way.




Rule -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 6:28:49 PM)

If I was a designer, I would design it another way. There are various ways to skin a rabbit, I once read or heard somewhere.




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 6:35:13 PM)

It's 'Skin a cat', why would you want to skin a rabbit? (That's just sick)

All the metaphorical abuse is aimed at cats: we swing them about to check for space, skin them alive to prove they don't have to be dead when you do it, confine them within bags to keep secrets.[8|]




FirmhandKY -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 7:25:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

the main thing is to insure that no one uses their head in these types of arguments.  You know I should toss my education out the window and lets play 5 card debunker!


so here ya have it!  I call your debunker and raise your debunker with my debunker!

FACT:

Debunking Popular Mechanics' 9/11 Lies
Nepotism, bias, shoddy research and agenda-driven politics
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | August 10 2006 Popular Mechanics has re-entered the media circus in an attempt to continue its 9/11 debunking campaign that began in March of last year. A new book claims to expose the myths of the 9/11 truth movement, yet it is Popular Mechanics who have been exposed as promulgating falsehoods while engaging in nepotism, shoddy research and agenda-driven politics.


It comes as no surprise that Popular Mechanics is owned by Hearst Corporation. As fictionalized in Orson Welles' acclaimed film Citizen Kane, William Randolph Hearst wrote the book on cronyism and yellow journalism and Popular Mechanics hasn't bucked that tradition.

The magazine is a cheerleader for the sophistication of advanced weaponry and new technology used by police in areas such as crowd control and 'anti-terror' operation. A hefty chunk of its advertising revenue relies on the military and defense contractors. Since the invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq and in the future Iran all cite 9/11 as a pretext, what motivation does the magazine have to conduct a balanced investigation and risk upsetting its most coveted clientele?

Popular Mechanics' March 2005 front cover story was entitled 'Debunking 9/11 Lies' and has since become the bellwether reference point for all proponents of the official 9/11 fairytale.

Following the publication of the article and its exaltation by the mainstream media as the final nail in the coffin for 9/11 conspiracy theories, it was revealed that senior researcher on the piece Benjamin Chertoff is the cousin of Michael Chertoff, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

This means that Benjamin Chertoff was hired to write an article that would receive nationwide attention, about the veracity of the government's explanation of an event that led directly to the creation of Homeland Security, a body that his own cousin now heads.

This is unparalleled nepotism and completely dissolves the credibility of the article before one has even turned the first page.




You don't even bother to read, except to reinforce your confirmation bias:


Is PM staffer Benjamin Chertoff a cousin of Michael Chertoff, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security?

As we explain in our book, it appears that they could be distant relatives. The connection, if any exists, dates back to the 19th century, before either family immigrated to the U.S. They have never met, and never spoken to one another. Michael Chertoff has never spoken with any member of the Popular Mechanics staff, nor with any member of Benjamin Chertoff's family.

The speculation concerning the supposed Chertoff connection is a good example of how conspiracy theorists often latch on to shreds of information, but get the details wrong. Ben Chertoff ran PM's research and fact-checking department at the time of the original magazine article, and conducted some reporting for the story. He was not the "senior editor," "head writer," or any of the other incorrect titles lofted by theorists. (Ben was later promoted to online editor, and recently left the magazine to pursue work as a freelance writer and producer.)

Moreover, Michael Chertoff was not secretary of Homeland Security at the time PM researched the original story. He was sworn in on Feb. 15, 2005, more than a month after the piece went to the printers.

Conspiracy theorists often present the supposed connection between Benjamin and Michael Chertoff as ipso facto proof of some sort of collaboration. But why would that be? There are nearly 30 people on the editorial staff of PM. Virtually none of them knew each other—or Ben—before coming to work here. So far, no one has explained to us how they believe a relatively junior magazine staffer could convince dozens of his colleagues to become complicit in a cover-up of one of the worst attacks in U.S. history.

The problem with conspiracy theories, is that you can always make a mountain out of a molehill.  After all, the number "6" is related to the numbers "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9" etc, etc, etc, ad infinitum ad nauseum.

You can play 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon all you wish.

I have no doubt that there is absolutely no way to change your mind, Real0ne.  I'm just posting for the record.

Firm




thornhappy -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 7:52:16 PM)

That sounds like even more fun!

Did you know there's a lawnmower racing circuit in the US?

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy
That's got some real possibilities, especially if it was one of those fast whoppers used for large parcels. Just add lights and a horn!
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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
"My lawnmower is not designed to get me from A-B???"
"What do you mean it cuts grass?, I've been using it to travel to and from work."


Yep, the only downside being that you'd be tempted to go cross country on every roundabout due for council maintenance and there are quite a few.




Rule -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 7:53:44 PM)

That is interesting. Well done.




Rule -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 7:56:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy
Did you know there's a lawnmower racing circuit in the US?

How fast do they go? Does one need a driving license for them? Can you drive them on the highway? Does one have to pay a lawnmower or road tax for them?




thornhappy -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 8:01:49 PM)

For the racing questions, see this http://www.letsmow.com/

I really don't know what it would take to make one street legal...I'm thinking you could do it up like a golf cart, and put in new gears so it goes faster.  Some states require a license based on how many brake horsepower the vehicle has.




Real0ne -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 8:17:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
You don't even bother to read, except to reinforce your confirmation bias:

Are you kidding?  Not this old fucking news that has all been covered and swept under the carpet.


Moreover, Michael Chertoff was not secretary of Homeland Security at the time PM researched the original story. He was sworn in on Feb. 15, 2005, more than a month after the piece went to the printers.





thanks you so much for finding that for me! 

Oh btw his mama confirmed it to a reporter that they were cousins or some shit.  I dont remember all the intimate details.

None the less thanks for showing everyone how kickbacks work.

Just like they buried Dubyas grandaddys involvement with hitler and and songbird mccains being a fucking traitor in nam.

wake up and smell the roses and if ya cant do that keep smelling the shit whichever you prefer.  ;)

oh and you didnt bother to read the one I posted either? 

Remember I raised you one debunker site so I guess you folded and I win on the 911 argument because my debunker is better than your debunker eh :D

oh and btw, let me square you away on one very important point.

You see I am not the conspiracy theorist here the dubya administration is because I am not the one who made the claim 19 hijackers flew planes into 2 towers to bring 3 towers down.  So get it right man, I am the conspiracy debunker and the gubes have not remotely made their case.




FirmhandKY -> RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE (3/4/2010 8:28:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
You don't even bother to read, except to reinforce your confirmation bias:

Are you kidding?  Not this old fucking news that has all been covered and swept under the carpet.


Moreover, Michael Chertoff was not secretary of Homeland Security at the time PM researched the original story. He was sworn in on Feb. 15, 2005, more than a month after the piece went to the printers.





thanks you so much for finding that for me! 

Oh btw his mama confirmed it to a reporter that they were cousins or some shit.  I dont remember all the intimate details.

None the less thanks for showing everyone how kickbacks work.

Just like they buried Dubyas grandaddys involvement with hitler and and songbird mccains being a fucking traitor in nam.

wake up and smell the roses and if ya cant do that keep smelling the shit whichever you prefer.  ;)

oh and you didnt bother to read the one I posted either? 

Remember I raised you one debunker site so I guess you folded and I win on the 911 argument because my debunker is better than your debunker eh :D

oh and btw, let me square you away on one very important point.

You see I am not the conspiracy theorist here the dubya administration is because I am not the one who made the claim 19 hijackers flew planes into 2 towers to bring 2 towers down.  So get it right man, I am the conspiracy debunker and the gubes have not remotely made their case.




There was a talking duck in Germany in 1952, but the Illuminati covered it up, because he was giving the future history of the gold standard!

No ... really!   I read it somewhere or the other, I swear! [8D]

Thanks for reminding me!

Did you hear about the UFO that landed in Atlanta last week, at the crack house?

The news refused to cover it too, but I heard it from a friend, of a friend, whose girlfriend saw it with her own eyes, just after she left the house ...

Firm




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