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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:18:09 AM   
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yeh why would any idiot think they hit it with a missile after dummy said missile?

There was no missile. There were no planes.

Undoubtedly Rumsfeld does not know how the towers were demolished. (There was no need to know for him.) He was just going with the story and either may have referred to a plane, or have been speculating himself.

Well if there were no planes and there was no missile then what do you think brought down the WTC?


achewwwwwwwwwwww!

You have sense of humor, pahunkboy.



Yes he does. but seriously, I'd like to hear your theory as to what did it if there were no planes or missiles.


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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:21:10 AM   
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The detonators were triggered by radio, most probably by hundreds of detonator specific frequencies in a sequence specified by a computer. (That is the only credible possibility that I can think of.)


1) You have to weaken the structure first, watch any of the demolition series that've run on Discovery or TLC.  A lot of torching there.  Which several posters have stated previously.

2) You'd need a hell of a transmitter to get enough signal strength within the building.

3) Each detonator would require it's own receiver and power supply.  Not easy to hide.  Even with very low power receivers (superregenerative) you'd have to replace the battery (say if you wanted to keep the box down to 3x3x4) in a year or so.  Better yet, add a transmitter so you could check for life of the unit.  Oops...now you need a bigger battery.  Oops, now you need a bigger transmitter to make it through the walls, and now you have a hazard to the detonator itself.

4) You'd need an antenna with pretty damn good gain, which also makes them larger. 

5) If your receivers only wake up sporadically to check for messages, you'd never get the precision required for demolition.

6) You wouldn't want any big transmitters nearby for safety reasons (which would be a problem since WTC 1 had kilowatts of power on the roof due to all the broadcasting gear.)

Just some of the basics of radio.

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:22:52 AM   
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I believe he's an "intentional/controlled demolition man", in spite of all evidence to the contrary. 

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yeh why would any idiot think they hit it with a missile after dummy said missile?

There was no missile. There were no planes.

Undoubtedly Rumsfeld does not know how the towers were demolished. (There was no need to know for him.) He was just going with the story and either may have referred to a plane, or have been speculating himself.

Well if there were no planes and there was no missile then what do you think brought down the WTC?


achewwwwwwwwwwww!

You have sense of humor, pahunkboy.



Yes he does. but seriously, I'd like to hear your theory as to what did it if there were no planes or missiles.


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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:24:12 AM   
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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:26:01 AM   
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Steph:
They won't be near as entertaining if they do.
You are such a party pooper

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:31:05 AM   
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Yes he does. but seriously, I'd like to hear your theory as to what did it if there were no planes or missiles.

You are a smart woman. You can figure it out for yourself.

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:32:30 AM   
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I believe he's an "intentional/controlled demolition man", in spite of all evidence to the contrary.


Ah, thankies Thorny. I thought maybe he was more logical, guess not Smooches


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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:33:45 AM   
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Yes he does. but seriously, I'd like to hear your theory as to what did it if there were no planes or missiles.

You are a smart woman. You can figure it out for yourself.


Yes I am Rule, smart enough to not believe conspiracy theories which make no sense at all.


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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:35:59 AM   
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1) You have to weaken the structure first

Why?

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1) watch any of the demolition series that've run on Discovery or TLC.  A lot of torching there.

Tsk, tsk.

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1) Which several posters have stated previously.

Exhibiting an extreme lack of imagination thereby.

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:42:44 AM   
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maybe someone had an underwear bomb....

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:49:07 AM   
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MUST!   salduchi update!!

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:49:22 AM   
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1) There was no such thing as super thermite or nanotechnology in explosives, when the wtc was constructed. How did they manage to spray all the undersides of the concrete flooring, without anyone noticing ?

2) If they did manage the above, the central structure would still have remained standing.

I solved both questions.

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3) How did they control the detonation, in the right sequence, to bring down the buildings as you suggest. We both know that a controlled demolition must blast out supporting columns in a set order,  If this isnt done, they cant control the direction of the fall. I wont even get into the amount of demolition that takes place by machinery PRIOR to the actual explosion.

The detonators were triggered by radio, most probably by hundreds of detonator specific frequencies in a sequence specified by a computer. (That is the only credible possibility that I can think of.)

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4) Why have none of the demolition workers who installed the charges ever spoken up. I refuse to believe that a large workforce would see thousands of civillians killed, and not one would decide to blow the whistle.

How large a workforce? In my estimation twenty men would be sufficient to emplace the required detonators and charges in the two towers. It seems to me that those people would have every motive to not speak out and no incentive to do speak out. I expect that even if a reward of one hundred billion dollar was put up, that still none of them would speak out.



A cell phone can trigger a bomb.  



A bomb, yes, hundreds all in an instant, not possible. The cell phone companies were already operating under stress, due to the number of people in the area making calls. There is no way they could be sure to achieve demolition using cell phones.

Rule, you still havent accounted for the thermite. I also think you have grossly underestimated how long it would take to spray all 110 floors, unseen, using just 20 men.

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:52:36 AM   
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The detonators were triggered by radio, most probably by hundreds of detonator specific frequencies in a sequence specified by a computer. (That is the only credible possibility that I can think of.)


1) You have to weaken the structure first, watch any of the demolition series that've run on Discovery or TLC.  A lot of torching there.  Which several posters have stated previously.

Bullshit

show me the rule book that says you HAVE to weaken the structure.  YOU DONT!
 

2) You'd need a hell of a transmitter to get enough signal strength within the building.

Again you are out of your mind and I fully explained this to you how many fucking times why what you said is again bullshit


3) Each detonator would require it's own receiver and power supply.  Not easy to hide.  Even with very low power receivers (superregenerative) you'd have to replace the battery (say if you wanted to keep the box down to 3x3x4) in a year or so.  Better yet, add a transmitter so you could check for life of the unit.  Oops...now you need a bigger battery.  Oops, now you need a bigger transmitter to make it through the walls, and now you have a hazard to the detonator itself.

Again 80% not true

your rolling in the bullshit today arent you


4) You'd need an antenna with pretty damn good gain, which also makes them larger. 

BULLSHIT


5) If your receivers only wake up sporadically to check for messages, you'd never get the precision required for demolition.

6) You wouldn't want any big transmitters nearby for safety reasons (which would be a problem since WTC 1 had kilowatts of power on the roof due to all the broadcasting gear.)

Just some of the basics of radio.




fuckit

your whole post is complete and utter bullshit



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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:53:09 AM   
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Ok-  but 7 had on the 23 rd floor- a bomb proof- own water supply own power- and own air.  So - maybe it was rigged via this.

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:54:06 AM   
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A bomb, yes, hundreds all in an instant, not possible. The cell phone companies were already operating under stress, due to the number of people in the area making calls. There is no way they could be sure to achieve demolition using cell phones.

Rule, you still havent accounted for the thermite. I also think you have grossly underestimated how long it would take to spray all 110 floors, unseen, using just 20 men.


More bullshit

you people are all living in the fucking stone age and totaly out of your league


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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:54:42 AM   
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1) You have to weaken the structure first

Why?

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1) watch any of the demolition series that've run on Discovery or TLC.  A lot of torching there.

Tsk, tsk.

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1) Which several posters have stated previously.

Exhibiting an extreme lack of imagination thereby.


Try corelating extreme imagination with practical solutions. Your argument then starts to fall apart. You continue to claim you know the truth about the planes, yet sidestep anyone asking for verification.

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:56:52 AM   
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MUST!   salduchi update!!

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 7:58:48 AM   
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A bomb, yes, hundreds all in an instant, not possible. The cell phone companies were already operating under stress, due to the number of people in the area making calls. There is no way they could be sure to achieve demolition using cell phones.

Rule, you still havent accounted for the thermite. I also think you have grossly underestimated how long it would take to spray all 110 floors, unseen, using just 20 men.


More bullshit

you people are all living in the fucking stone age and totaly out of your league



Why, because you so say ? All you can do is hurl insults instead of showing me where I am wrong. Have you ever worked in construction or on a demolition site. Do you actually know what would have to happen, just to make the underside of the ceilings accessable to spray superthermite onto. Thats providing they can spray it in the same way they spray fireproofing.

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 8:10:39 AM   
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Why, because you so say ? All you can do is hurl insults instead of showing me where I am wrong. Have you ever worked in construction or on a demolition site. Do you actually know what would have to happen, just to make the underside of the ceilings accessable to spray superthermite onto. Thats providing they can spray it in the same way they spray fireproofing.


You're problem here, Ps is that you are trying to counter insanity and paranoia with logic; that will never work. Nice try though


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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/7/2010 8:13:58 AM   
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A bomb, yes, hundreds all in an instant, not possible. The cell phone companies were already operating under stress, due to the number of people in the area making calls. There is no way they could be sure to achieve demolition using cell phones.

Rule, you still havent accounted for the thermite. I also think you have grossly underestimated how long it would take to spray all 110 floors, unseen, using just 20 men.


More bullshit

you people are all living in the fucking stone age and totaly out of your league



Why, because you so say ? All you can do is hurl insults instead of showing me where I am wrong. Have you ever worked in construction or on a demolition site. Do you actually know what would have to happen, just to make the underside of the ceilings accessable to spray superthermite onto. Thats providing they can spray it in the same way they spray fireproofing.


why the fuck would anyone spray the ceilings


16 buildings 1500 pounds to shoot em and you seen the video how many fucking times and you still spout the same shit?

There comes a time when willful dumb ass needs to be called what it is.

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