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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:42:30 PM   
Real0ne


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yeh just like 911 takes some study.

I can just see some loser telling the judge, buh buh buh Judge its just a concept!

con·cept play_w2("C0544100") n.


1. A general idea derived or inferred from specific instances or occurrences.


2. Something formed in the mind; a thought or notion. See Synonyms at idea.


3. A scheme; a plan:

thats the best one.

I have not read any economists work yet where they didnt belong in a rubber room.

So is it difficult to completely lose it?




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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:44:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Open any economics text, and turn to the chapter about money.

You think money is a thing. It's not---it's a concept.



Well -- it's both, really. Money depends on a whole set of social assumptions. The assumptions for credit money and for commodity money are similar but not entirely identical.

There's a great article I read last year on waves of commodity and credit money throughout history. Highly recommended: Debt: The First 5000 Years

Pahunk -- I hesitate to fuel the fire, but -- there's a good conspiracy website that isn't completely insane: Cryptogon

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:44:27 PM   
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Nope. Nothing to do with Keynes.

Entirely to do with what is money---even 6000 years ago.



do tell!




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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:45:53 PM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		Yes, that's it exactly.

People kept their gold at goldsmiths to take advantage of their security. Goldsmiths gave them IOUs to trade instead of carrying around the gold. Then goldsmiths realized they could float more IOUs then gold.

Entirely a plan, scheme, thought, notion, idea.

If it's widely accepted, it's money.

And if not---then gold is a soft yellow rock.

quote:

I have not read any economists work yet where they didnt belong in a rubber room.


OK. So you're smarter than all others, including all other economists.

What a megalomanic. There's no point arguing with someone who's defined himself as such a priori.

Find a smiley for that.


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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:47:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Nope. Nothing to do with Keynes.

Entirely to do with what is money---even 6000 years ago.

do tell!


SHH!  He is focusing on his 401k- and his paper promises.

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:48:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And if it were accepted as money, that would be fine.

Or coffee beans. Or shells. Or Fed Reserve Notes. Or gold. Or purple stones.

And if not, all worthless.

Because money is a concept. No accepted concept, no value.




well life is a concept then too if we want to use your premise so ya gonna shoot yourself?? LOL

there is only one function for money and that is to aid trade between any 2 people or whatever.

When you hand someone an IOU, you have not paid for shit.  If you think you have do tell and I havent even touched on the legal side yet LOL


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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:49:46 PM   
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maybe I can get a diamond ring from the gum ball machine.

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:50:49 PM   
Musicmystery


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You pay them however you like.

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:51:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Yes, that's it exactly.

People kept their gold at goldsmiths to take advantage of their security. Goldsmiths gave them IOUs to trade instead of carrying around the gold. Then goldsmiths realized they could float more IOUs then gold.

Entirely a plan, scheme, thought, notion, idea.

If it's widely accepted, it's money.

And if not---then gold is a soft yellow rock.


Oh so you really meant it was a scam then?

Gold smiths did not write them an IOU they gave them a certificate which was title to whatever the amount of gold named on it, it was title to that amount in the vault.

that is NOT an IOU.


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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:52:04 PM   
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paper roses- are just like the real thing!! who knew? hahaha~!

maybe I can get a diamond ring from the gum ball machine.



Nope.

You're confusing things and concepts again.

An economics text. Any one. Are you afraid to learn a little something?

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:52:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Yes, that's it exactly.

People kept their gold at goldsmiths to take advantage of their security. Goldsmiths gave them IOUs to trade instead of carrying around the gold. Then goldsmiths realized they could float more IOUs then gold.

Entirely a plan, scheme, thought, notion, idea.

If it's widely accepted, it's money.

And if not---then gold is a soft yellow rock.


Oh so you really meant it was a scam then?

Gold smiths did not write them an IOU they gave them a certificate which was title to whatever the amount of gold named on it, it was title to that amount in the vault.

that is NOT an IOU.



You and I are gonna be jumping out the window!!    Aint that something?

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:53:13 PM   
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paper roses-  are just like the real thing!!    who knew?  hahaha~!

maybe I can get a diamond ring from the gum ball machine.





well the quickest way to get lead up the golden path is to get your understanding of what money is from a fucking economist.




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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:53:28 PM   
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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:54:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

paper roses-  are just like the real thing!!    who knew?  hahaha~!

maybe I can get a diamond ring from the gum ball machine.





well the quickest way to get lead up the golden path is to get your understanding of what money is from a fucking economist.





Would you be referring to the eonomists who had "no way of knowing" about the bubble?   Those same experts?

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:54:43 PM   
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well the quickest way to get lead up the golden path is to get your understanding of what money is from a fucking economist.
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I have not read any economists work yet where they didnt belong in a rubber room.



OK. So you're smarter than all others, including all other economists.

What a megalomanic. There's no point arguing with someone who's defined himself as such a priori.

Find a smiley for that.

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:56:10 PM   
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Would you be referring to the eonomists who had "no way of knowing" about the bubble?   Those same experts?



everybody saw it coming but them,  I am still laughing at how they put ron paul on tv calling him an econimic mastermind when he predicted 6 years earlier.

sheesh


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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:56:35 PM   
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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:59:27 PM   
Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

quote:

well the quickest way to get lead up the golden path is to get your understanding of what money is from a fucking economist.
quote:



I have not read any economists work yet where they didnt belong in a rubber room.



OK. So you're smarter than all others, including all other economists.

What a megalomanic. There's no point arguing with someone who's defined himself as such a priori.

Find a smiley for that.



well now is a good time for you to duck out of this one unless you actually want ot get into the nitty gritty of money which you cant until you correct your thinking on the matter.  Like this does not even scratch the zit on the gnat's wing on the tip of the iseburg.

start with money masters and money mechanics put out by the federal reserve if you want to start learning "what" money is.


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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 7:59:48 PM   
pahunkboy


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Status: offline 		RO, money just is not important to anyone here.

It is too abstract.   Because we have to have experts and annalists, pundits and advisers.   The folks here have no interest in that.   They are more concerned about their ego.

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RE: WASHINGTON TIMES QUESTIONS WTC 7 COLLAPSE - 3/8/2010 8:00:57 PM   
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