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ORIGINAL: luckydawg
but it wasn't a naturly aspirated fire. The massive clouds of smoke sucked an equal amount of air into the fire, right? You do agree with that, right?

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

but it wasn't a naturly aspirated fire. The massive clouds of smoke sucked an equal amount of air into the fire, right? You do agree with that, right?

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg
but it wasn't a naturly aspirated fire. The massive clouds of smoke sucked an equal amount of air into the fire, right? You do agree with that, right?

The black smoke indicates that the fire was oxygen starved.

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ORIGINAL: Rule
Any before your post 47, quoted below?

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ORIGINAL: Rule
Which of your arguments have been picked away, if any?

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ORIGINAL: JonnieBoy
And possibly why he appears to some (so I'm told) to be a Twat ?
I sure hope SL4 is the first 3 characters of his postcode, it would be a shame if he were to disappoint.

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
Pilots were mentioned by pahunkboy on post number 6 (no planes hit building 7 so he couldn't have been talking about that.)

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
Rule the pillock, YOU, mentioned WTC1 & WTC2 at the bottom of post number 15

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
I'm the real idiot for once again wasting my time on this shyte.

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NIST WTC Lead Investigator Shyam Sunder. “Heating of floor beams and girders caused a critical support column to fail, initiating a fire-induced progressive collapse that brought the building down.”

“Video and photographic evidence combined with detailed computer simulations show that neither explosives nor fuel oil fires played a role in the collapse of WTC 7,”

According to the report, a key factor leading to the eventual collapse of WTC 7 was thermal expansion of long-span floor systems at temperatures “hundreds of degrees below those typically considered in current practice for fire resistance ratings."

The team said that the smallest blast event capable of crippling the critical column would have produced a “sound level of 130 to 140 decibels at a distance of half a mile,” yet no noise this loud was reported by witnesses or recorded on videos.

As for fuel fires, the team found that they could not have been sustained long enough, could not have generated sufficient heat to fail a critical column, and/or would have produced “large amounts of visible smoke” from Floors 5 and 6, which was not observed.

Finally, the report notes that “while debris impact from the collapse of WTC 1 initiated fires in WTC 7, the resulting structural damage had little effect in causing the collapse of WTC 7.”

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
It did not fall faster than 9.81 m/sec^2 and actually fell slower than that.

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ORIGINAL: Rule

I quote these excerpts:

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NIST WTC Lead Investigator Shyam Sunder. “Heating of floor beams and girders caused a critical support column to fail, initiating a fire-induced progressive collapse that brought the building down.”

“Video and photographic evidence combined with detailed computer simulations show that neither explosives nor fuel oil fires played a role in the collapse of WTC 7,”

According to the report, a key factor leading to the eventual collapse of WTC 7 was thermal expansion of long-span floor systems at temperatures “hundreds of degrees below those typically considered in current practice for fire resistance ratings."

The team said that the smallest blast event capable of crippling the critical column would have produced a “sound level of 130 to 140 decibels at a distance of half a mile,” yet no noise this loud was reported by witnesses or recorded on videos.

As for fuel fires, the team found that they could not have been sustained long enough, could not have generated sufficient heat to fail a critical column, and/or would have produced “large amounts of visible smoke” from Floors 5 and 6, which was not observed.

Finally, the report notes that “while debris impact from the collapse of WTC 1 initiated fires in WTC 7, the resulting structural damage had little effect in causing the collapse of WTC 7.”

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Prior to 9/11 the American neoconservatives were explicit that the wars of aggression that they intended to launch in the Middle East required "a new Pearl Harbor." For their own good and that of the wider world, Americans need to pay attention to the growing body of experts who are telling them that the government’s account of 9/11 fails their investigation. 9/11 launched the neoconservative plan for U.S. world hegemony. As I write the U.S. government is purchasing the agreement of foreign governments that border Russia to accept U.S. missile interceptor bases. The U.S. intends to ring Russia with U.S. missile bases from Poland through central Europe and Kosovo to Georgia, Azerbaijan and central Asia. [See Impending Explosion: U.S. Intensifies Threats To Russia And Iran, by Rick Rozoff, Global Research, February 19, 2010]  U.S. envoy Richard Holbrooke declared on February 20 that al Qaida is moving into former central Asian constituent parts of the Soviet Union, such as Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, and Kazakhstan. Holbrooke is soliciting U.S. bases in these former Soviet republics under the guise of the ever-expanding "war on terror."

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
Rule look for the video of the woman interviewing a lady with a small child that looks down the street toward 7.

In the interview you can hear them demo it.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
they call this a "collapse"
[image]local://upfiles/59055/249DC3695B55421886DDF882222EB14B.jpg[/image]

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
Also a portion of the fire proofing was stripped off during the impact so it was useless after far less time than a few hours.

There were no planes.

some think that it was a missile.