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CERCKL -> RE: Your Hard limits are HOW Hard??? (3/30/2006 1:00:46 PM)
quote: the terms and conditions of what this slave will do, when and with who are decided solely by Master, therefore this slave "has" only the limits that Master has for her. on the other hand, if this slave was His submissive, NOT His slave, then she would "have" her very own personal set of limits that she would expect Him to respect, as negotiated and agreed upon at the beginning of our Dom/sub relationship(and re-negotiated should either party feel it necessary), especially if they were prefaced with the word Hard, suggestive of NON-flexibility. I can understand that...and I appreciate the other posts where limits can be explored beyond with in a relationship of trust, growth and intimacy...of the three she has now...two are inappropriate, involving those who are not in as place to make an informed, consentual decision and the last involves an act which holds no interest to me...though if it did, I would not press...the two mentioned in the intitial post were not originally told to Me and I found out they were limits after the fact, as well as ones which she had defined as 'hard' until then...they were also mentioned in conversation after these acts had been performed several times...I feel they are connected to emotional issues more than anything else. One thing I appreciate with her is something which I have never experienced so intensely which is the trust and honesty in communication which I have never experienced previously...including after 12 years with My ex...I would do no harm to she whom I now own and I focus a lot of My energy and thought to bringing out from her what I see she is fully capable of... If I had known these had been 'hard' limits previous to doing them with her, would I have NOT done them? NOT pushed her...well, eventually but not in the manner they were accomplished, I have no desire to lead her farther than she is capable of going BEFORE she has been prepared. C

CERCKL -> RE: Your Hard limits are HOW Hard??? (3/30/2006 1:07:37 PM)
quote: *clears her throat and says in her most soothing come hither voice... CERCKL, dear, come here and have a cookie..I'm not scary at all, dear, and pay no attention to the woman behind the curtain... May be a L. Frank Baum reference...but why do I feel it's more a narrative from the Brothers Grimm??? Hmmmm... I do expect to hear narrative of the genital crucifiction...and sorry I am in the wrong region to observe but if You ever travel to the Pacific NW area, let Me know and lotus and I would be privileged to take you out for dinner and conversation... Did enjoy the soothing come hither voice. C

runawaykajira -> RE: Your Hard limits are HOW Hard??? (3/30/2006 1:35:58 PM)
Greetings i just read a small bleep as i was playing game about hard limits. Anyone who has been in this life for any lenght time knows that there should be for safety reason limits. Example for me i can not have any gags in my mouth this is for phyiscal as well metnal reason. Can or should that limit be broken by a Master/ dom or top, then we dont play anymore. Plus once it done they found out quickly why that is a hard limits. But also i belive any limits hard or otherwise should be discuss during the negoation time, and the explortain time. for a realtionship to start and to be bond together there needs to trust, and sometimes that trust comes from respecting the slave and her limits. thank you runaway kajira

MizSuz -> RE: Your Hard limits are HOW Hard??? (3/30/2006 3:46:39 PM)
ORIGINAL: ModeratorOne There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't. [/quote] BAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! too funny Or maybe it's 100001010101010!!!! <End of thread hijacking>

denika -> RE: Your Hard limits are HOW Hard??? (3/30/2006 5:01:04 PM)
I have never set hard limits with Knight, but from the very begining we talked about likes,dislikes, personal fears and such. He sets the limits. He knows my body and what it can and can't take as well as I do, sometimes even better.(I know, I know that sounds very cliched) He has walked me through an intense fear of fire. I have never been burned but I've seen enough results to know accidents happen and it's ugly.. I trust Him with with something very precious, my life. That being said it is also my responcibility to speak up if He is doing something that will endanger my life or my psyche and we will discuss the reasons and go from there. denika

DragonNphoenix -> RE: Your Hard limits are HOW Hard??? (4/1/2006 12:45:22 AM)
My limits are limits for a reason. Weather that reason be ethics, morals or preferances doesn't matter. The great thing is that My Dragon respects my limits, he does not push. 1st Girl Phoenix

Angeni -> RE: Your Hard limits are HOW Hard??? (4/1/2006 1:56:52 AM)
Greetings :) Hard limits are hard for a reason. Those that I would consider to be hard, I would not tolerate being breached for any reason.

carlita -> RE: Your Hard limits are HOW Hard??? (4/1/2006 9:20:37 AM)
i am proud to say i have no limits in humiliation in the rest of bdsm activities i take all i can to the highest level i am ready to offer an advice to all slaves girls

MsBearlee -> RE: Your Hard limits are HOW Hard??? (4/4/2006 9:01:32 AM)
" Then there were those thresholds crossed that sent my mind reeling, leaving me in a dazed puddle, going WOW, why the hell did i think i was not into that." ..... LOVELY! I see all lists as 'living documents'....... things change; life, trust, limits!

MsIncognito -> RE: Your Hard limits are HOW Hard??? (4/4/2006 9:08:44 AM)
My hard limits are pretty damn hard. Given that my hard limits are death, dismemberment and permanent physical/emotional/psychological harm I don't think that's unreasonable. There are some things I'd rather not do but I don't consider those hard limits. In the right circumstances I could probably be persuaded to do them by the right person, it's just that the chances that those circumstances/that person will coincide are probably slim to none [:D] quote: How Hard are your limits? Would you ever consider being taken past them, as long as you didn't find them ethically wrong (no, I'm not speaking of other's 'ethics' here...)?

RavenMuse -> RE: Your Hard limits are HOW Hard??? (4/4/2006 9:16:28 AM)
Hard limits are hard limits.... one in particular is a phobia, another is illegal, a couple are just things I will not initiate (Personal viewpoint thing) and the other two are simply not my thing under any circumstances. When it comes to my comfort zone, then I enjoy pushing myself past that point on occassion as much as I enjoy pushing my girls softer limits or comfort zone, but hard limits are just that, immutable. As it happens it so far seems that where hard limits are concerned my girl and I very well matched.

Mikesbeth -> RE: Your Hard limits are HOW Hard??? (4/4/2006 9:53:29 AM)
Maybe it's just me but my hard limits that I thought I had when we started are gone. We have discussed and passed throught all of them so far. There are a couple of things I can think of that I would not want to do, but then if he actually presented them to me as an option of play, I would be able to say no and he would back off of it. If it is really intense when something is presented, I would just have to say uncle and he would let it go.

saltygoodness27 -> RE: Your Hard limits are HOW Hard??? (4/4/2006 9:56:54 AM)
My hard limits are hard, and I expect them to be respected. But that doesn't mean they can't change in the future. But it's something that needs to be discussed, and not just done mid-scene because the top is bored.

MistressSassy66 -> RE: Your Hard limits are HOW Hard??? (4/4/2006 12:51:53 PM)
I have perhaps 4 or 5 things that are absolutely Hard Limits,that will never be crossed. I respect limits that others set for themselves.I wont push someone past their hard limits,unless they ask for it.For there are a few who like to be pushed to the edge. I do have some things that used to be a limit that no longer are. As time goes by some people change and things that were scary or questionable at first arnt anymore.

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