Aneirin
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Firstly, I did not advocate violence to children, give 'em a thick ear, it is the usual response from people who have not experienced any of what we say here, people who have not experienced believe the old ideas will work and that those that complain of youth terror problems are being weak. Believe it, the youth we have now, are not the youth we were. But what has changed in that time, basically everything, the world we knew has gone to be replaced with what we have now which because of our greater communication, is a world of fear, we have learned to fear things that in the past we would be oblivious to. If fear is an underlying problem one has to ask, if fear is in the hearts of those that gang together and attack the weaker than themselves. To many, fear is a dirty word, no one likes to admit it, so hide it deep and by doing so,is the resultant aggression ? The youth we have now, are probably the highest educated in life that we have ever had, they know so much at such a young age, and if by being so educated, could the draw of life be somewhat dulled, I mean they know many things many adults are still learning, could it be if one knows it all, the interest and draw to do it is not there. Some say give the youths more to do, take them on holidays, give them opportunities, rock climbing, outward bound, and the ever important cultural activities, all well and good, it is an industry in itself, but it has problems. Try combining health and safety regulations with these activities, they result in a situation one can see the potential, but cannot extend themselves because of laws, which is in Britain yet another industry. Then we have the suspicion that every male that wants to work with youths is a suspected paedophile and to clear themselves they have to pay to be checked out, the result of which is many highly qualified one time youth adventure instructors will not get involved, not because of a past, or interest, but because of the supposition that they are dodgy for wanting to help people. We have created a supposition that paedophiles are thick on the ground, and around every corner, older males especially feel not wanted, and so will not give their time. Then we have the break up of the council house community, for many say it is bad, but it is not, it is just different, from experience I understand many who were dwellers of council houses were poorer, they could not afford to get on the housing ladder, so did the best they could do with cheap rented accomodation, the satellite tv dishes and big cars many say show people not as poor as they make out, understand something, when you have to live there, why not make it the best you can, why spend out on a tough mortgage, one you could not afford anyway, just get on with life and have the peripherals everyone else seems to get. The council house community, as it was, and is still in some places, is a community, people still help each other out, and are largely of the same level of living conditions and have the same problems, so they can relate. Now because of the flawed idea that people should buy their own homes, they did at a vastly reduced value, some stayed, but most got the hell out at a massive profit and in moved non council house mentality, who by and large were different, they kept themselves to themselves, working and buying, enhancing their property until it becomes a jewel in a sea of shit, what a target for the disgruntled in society. Other estates if not of high private ownership become dumping grounds, places where immigrants are dumped, they come here knowing nothing and are thrown in with the poor. Now the immigrants are different and that itself makes them a target, as to why should an indigenous person or family be waiting in say bed and breakfast accomodation for years, on a list to get a council property and there see an immigrant walk in and take what they feel should be theirs, as it is apparently law that a council has to house immigrants first. Also it was noted that when council properties are considered unfit for human habitation and were there left boarded up and empty, along comes an immigrant and suddenly there is a team of workers beavering away sorting the place out. What I think regarding the youth problem, is they are picking up the feelings of their parents, when a parent feels threatened, angered or sees injustice, it rubs off on the child, the child then has these problems themselves and nwhere necessary, takes action, perhaps it is a case of the children are acting on their parent's behalf, their parent can just moan, but they can act, the result of which moaning gets no respect, only action can work. The blame as I see it can be laid squarely at the feet of the politicians that created this new society, this experiment, starting with the cut throat wealth gathering mentality of the 1980's. I say experiment, because what has happened, the smashing of the unions followed by the smashing of industry and then the smashing of the industry workers society, if you can't get them out, breed them out. The offspring, all they do, is feel their parents pain. A brave new world perhaps, but one that those who come up with the ideas and implement the changes are largely seperate from.
< Message edited by Aneirin -- 3/12/2010 7:46:35 AM >
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Everything we are is the result of what we have thought, the mind is everything, what we think, we become - Guatama Buddha Conservatism is distrust of people tempered by fear - William Gladstone
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