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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 2:21:33 PM   
lally2


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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
My masochism also has spiritual elements to it... anyone that has endured pain for their concept of the sacred could tell you pain endured can lead to a sort of spiritual enlightenment... just like taking peyote or mushrooms can help someone on a vision quest.




last time i took mushrooms i saw four identical clowns squeezing up through the floorboards, doing a freaky dance and staring at me with unblinking eyes and when i ran out of the house screaming i found a spider the size of the house id just left wiggling its mouth parts at me.

just saying - psychotrophic drugs just fuck with you man

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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 2:28:54 PM   
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doesn't anyone have any fun anymore?  just plain fun... and good earthshattering orgasms -- brought on by whatever

and speaking of which... my darling boy is home.. I'm outta here

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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 2:40:34 PM   
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had a pretty good orgasm on saturday as it happens - g.spot manipulation - yay!



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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 2:54:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		My theory is that sexuality and BDSM D/s can be a spiritual path (not the only path). That is a radical idea by and large. And could be an interesting topic.

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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 2:55:52 PM   
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doesn't anyone have any fun anymore?


Maybe the analingus thread would be more to your likeing, Madame4a?

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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 3:01:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lorenzo19

My theory is that sexuality and BDSM D/s can be a spiritual path (not the only path). That is a radical idea by and large. And could be an interesting topic.


I am both a fisherman and a musician. I have had some genuinely mystical experiences at both.

But to call them, or BDSM a "spiritual path "seems to cheapen the term.

My ex wife could come home from shopping flushed and fulfilled. Is that too a spiritual path?

These, in my opinion are activities. Nothing more, nothing less.

Jeff

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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 3:01:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lorenzo19

My theory is that sexuality and BDSM D/s can be a spiritual path (not the only path).



Of course it can be a spiritual path.  But so can any other imaginable "path/lifestyle/cosmology/philosophy/etc," if that is what you make it.


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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 3:31:25 PM   
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Of course it can be a spiritual path.


Right. it's a no brainer. To Me and you. But to society at large and many on the boards they dont see it as so. jeffff for instance and several others. Here's your chance to do what we do on the boards.

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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 3:34:29 PM   
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If anything can be a spiritual path. Then once again, the term loses meaning for Me.

I like to kill hookers, it is My spiritual path.


Jeff

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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 3:36:05 PM   
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As so many threads do, this one will break down on semantics.


Ye of little faith.

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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 3:50:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		jeffff you are gettiing it. I think.

The topic is not to tell how many billions of paths there are to enlightenment.
It is about one path: (everybody) BDSM-D/s. Is it a valid path. Why? jefff wants to know.

jeffff what do you think about post 9 and 16?

< Message edited by Lorenzo19 -- 3/2/2010 3:51:33 PM >

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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 4:12:01 PM   
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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 4:17:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		everything in my life is a part of my spirituality but bdsm is not my path to spirituality...living life is.


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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 4:42:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lorenzo19

My theory is that sexuality and BDSM D/s can be a spiritual path (not the only path). That is a radical idea by and large. And could be an interesting topic.



http://www.realitysandwich.com/intentional_sexuality_possibilities_and_perils  Sacred Sex

http://www.realitysandwich.com/path_pain_spiritual_bdsm  Spiritual BDSM

*These two are blog posts done on Reality Sandwich*

CM posts on this and similar topics:

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2641637  BDSM: fun or philosophy?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2372720/mpage_1/tm.htm  Pagans, Ritual Sex and BDSM

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2324873  BDSM- lifestyle or religion?

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2152716  D/s and Religion....This is a great thread because of post #16 where LuckyAlbatross makes it easy by posting even more threads on the topic of BDSM, D/s, spirituality amd religion.

This is a topic that has come up, as you can see, more than a few times.  Some find it to be of interest...others don't. 

quote:


It is about one path: (everybody) BDSM-D/s. Is it a valid path.


For some, yes...for others, no.  There's no right or wrong answer and trying to force ideas on people is no different than a person knocking on my front door offering to enlighten me if I would just give them 5 minutes and take a look at the handout they're offering.

Just my  (or is that 4 since this is my second post on this thread)...FWIW.


 

< Message edited by CarrieO -- 3/2/2010 4:45:14 PM >

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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 4:54:13 PM   
elleX


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well like many others here i dont really feel a connection between lifestyle and spirituality,,
but a way to express ,who we are,,, as human been

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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 4:59:37 PM   
Lorenzo19


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Status: offline 		So far it seem most do not have any personal experiences to share, but conceed it may be possible.

some are bored. some skeptical.

I'll continue to monitor this thread in case some one has something new to say.

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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 5:02:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lorenzo19

jeffff you are gettiing it. I think.

The topic is not to tell how many billions of paths there are to enlightenment.
It is about one path: (everybody) BDSM-D/s. Is it a valid path. Why? jefff wants to know.

jeffff what do you think about post 9 and 16?


Ok , I read them.

This here BDSM thingy is part of who I am. I would not deny that. But I have made what some would call great sacrifices for My child.

To place wiitwd at the center of My life feels silly to me.

I reject the notion that I am special because of anyone part of who I am. I may, or may not be special, but if I am it is not because of this part of Me.

We are all a sum of our parts and I think no single activity should define us. If it does, I think I would pity that person.


Jeff



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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 5:13:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lally2


quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
My masochism also has spiritual elements to it... anyone that has endured pain for their concept of the sacred could tell you pain endured can lead to a sort of spiritual enlightenment... just like taking peyote or mushrooms can help someone on a vision quest.




last time i took mushrooms i saw four identical clowns squeezing up through the floorboards, doing a freaky dance and staring at me with unblinking eyes and when i ran out of the house screaming i found a spider the size of the house id just left wiggling its mouth parts at me.

just saying - psychotrophic drugs just fuck with you man


I do not use drugs recreational drugs... if I were to use psychotropic drugs, it would be for spiritual reasons....


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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 5:13:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		really jeff? that wasnt what you wanted to do when we talked on the phone the other night? as i recall you wanted to "bang" the shit out of my because you had a raging hard on..lol not that i belived you for a second~well maybe i did being the idiot that i am..oh by the way did you get off like you said you were going to? damn cant trust any body these days~

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RE: BDSM: Path to Spiritual Enlightenment? - 3/2/2010 5:23:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		oh by the way jeffwey..i cant get preggers anymore...like i told that guy in fla..who by the way wanted to blackmail the one in south carolina..i cant get pregnat anymore since i had a complete hysterectomy in 1999 ..gee seems like some people cant get it..even when they are actuall looking at the fucking hysterectomy scar..lol..not to mention the fucking medical records..how much more PROOF do these pretenders need? blood?..eww thats not one of my things though~ sowwy..but being the good subbie i am..cough~ whew..i went along with this fucktard in fla..whose uncle runs jersy who was a guy who was made? never did figure that one out...but i figured what the hell i had been lied to about south carolina doms wife so ..wtf? besides fla guy was hard up for cahs and thought it would kill two birds with one stone..so to speak!..lol tit fo tat and all that shit that sooooo many like to do around here~

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