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RE: Hanging up my whips - 3/30/2006 1:36:33 PM   
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Definition. Self-awareness. These seem to be areas You are looking into, exploring...I would suggest from a 'been there' position that these are positive aspects...having emerged from a decade plus relationship where I was not who I was but rather who I thought I should be all I managed was to make everyone miserable with My discontent...I do believe We continuously create who We are and there is no set 'I'...rather how I perceive My Self and the story I utilize to define My Self...still if that narrative is not congruent with My sense of creation then I am uneasy...at your age, well actually from 19-24 I went through a similar process of questioning and seeking, much more intense than those around Me could tolerate...and speaking with someone I have a lot of respect for today, We agreed cynicism is just realism with Your tongue firmly in cheek...
I am creatin who I am now...and I am not seeking for any validation from anyone...lotus appeared when I stopped seeking; My ex stated last night she wants Me to stop wrestling with inner demons and be happy...she's a couple steps behind observing where I am but the thought is appreciated.
Know Yourself and the rest will be presented...
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RE: Hanging up my whips - 3/30/2006 3:37:06 PM   
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quote:

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...lotus appeared when I stopped seeking;



Not surprising at all.  It's a good thing to have goals and focus and a clear idea of what you would like to create in your life.  I don't, however, believe that finding a relationship as a goal is ever a good thing.  At best you can make yourself available and open to the possibility.  But actively seeking is, in my opinion, generally just a bad idea.  You end up getting in the way of what the universe has to send your way.

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RE: Hanging up my whips - 3/30/2006 7:15:17 PM   
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To the OP..you played and thats good,you have seen and learned what it si you desire and want.Now of course your mindset changes,this as with all things comes with experience ,knowledge and of course age.What one wants at one time of their life does not necessarily mean it is what they want at another time in their life.So you are now in a time of your life where a more serious D/s dynamic is needful for your fulfillment.Thats good!this indicates more of a growth on your part,a reflection if you will.Now the hard part...waiting............now you must learn patience...This time of waiting will give you an opportunity to know what kind of serious D/s dynamic you wish.......You will be the better for this time of patience...be well..tempting

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RE: Hanging up my whips - 3/30/2006 9:37:57 PM   
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Wow!  I too was surprised to read you are ready to give up ...

My only thought is that I am sure finding the "one" partner in the D/s lifestyle can be just as frustrating as in any other relationship.  I've been looking for that "one" for 25 years now.  I have lost count of the number of failed relationships I have behind me.  But at the age of 43 I have finally figured out the difference between being with a Domme versus someone who domineers.

I have always been attracted to strong, outgoing personalites.  But my instinctive submissive nature always kicked in and I ended up being domineered.

After stumbling (literally) in to the BDSM lifestyle I have been lucky enough to be found by a wonderful Domme and am one very happy sub.

I suspect that if you stop actively looking and focus on you, keeping active, and getting out and about, that one you seek will surely turn up ... sooner or later ...

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RE: Hanging up my whips - 3/31/2006 12:13:55 AM   
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Wow,   I’ve been reading everyone’s replies, and I appreciate the time you have all taken to offer your advice and wisdom.  I was concerned I would get flamed over my age, but I was relieved and surprised that everyone was able to see past the number. 

I still have much to think about and digest,  I’m not one to make hasty decisions like publicly declaring my retirement from the scene only to be back in a few months when the call of kink becomes too much to resist... I am already self aware enough to know that this is what I need in my life, it is now a question of in what quantity and what capacity...

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RE: Hanging up my whips - 3/31/2006 6:39:33 AM   
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quote:

I was concerned I would get flamed over my age

Nope...if you want to get flamed post how everyone on this site are players and you can't find anyone in the first 24 hours...or someother whine in that vein...
C

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RE: Hanging up my whips - 3/31/2006 7:33:00 AM   
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Madame...I am not about to presume your experience in terms of this lifestyle.  However, i would say it is safe to say that at the age of 21, you are just beginning to experience life.  At 21 you have the world by its balls and it's yours for the taking.  Perhaps it's time to put your whips on hiatus and seek out some new interests. 
 
It sounds as if you’re burned out.  Understandably so if this lifestyle has been your main focus in life to date.  It may be time to nurture some of your other interests.  A step back may be just what you need to put the passion back into this aspect of your life.  This is one part of who you are, not your entirety.


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RE: Hanging up my whips - 3/31/2006 7:37:52 AM   
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You wisdom is duly noted.Wish more people came across as real as this.

MA

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RE: Hanging up my whips - 3/31/2006 10:59:47 PM   
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quote:

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Madame...I am not about to presume your experience in terms of this lifestyle. 


Ive been playing for about 4 years (here in Australia Im legal at 18)  and much more activly in the last 2 years.

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RE: Hanging up my whips - 4/1/2006 12:31:53 AM   
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As a younger, more-experienced-than-people-might-think Dominant Female of 24 years old this month, I can really identify with where you're coming from.  I have felt as though I've almost slipped into that pile of people who're jaded and had enough with it all.  The drama and politics of real life groups and meetings.  We've been on this site since late 04, and I can count on both hands the number of emails we've recieved in that time.  Talk about frustrating...

My best advice to you would be to take a HUGE step back for a good, long while.  Do whatever.  As long as it's not lifestyle related, do it.  Get completely away from it for a predetermined amount of time.  After that time, look at where you are, how you feel, what else you've been doing to occupy your time, who you've been associating with, etc.  Then decide whether or not it's really worth all the bullshit you've been going through trying to find your personal fulfillment.  It worked well for me, but I did have to prepare myself in advance for the possibility that I may choose to never come back, depending on the outcome of my hiatus.

Know you're not alone, and I hope that whatever you do, and ultimately decide to do,  works out for you.

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RE: Hanging up my whips - 4/1/2006 4:03:41 AM   
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You write like a woman of many generations, yet when I look at your profile, I see 21??? You now know what you want with a lifetime to find it.


You said that so much sweeter than I was thinking.  Once I saw the profile I laughed. Sorry, couldn't help it!

OH to be 21 again and know what I know now!!!!!

Texas Maam

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RE: Hanging up my whips - 4/1/2006 5:48:10 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TexasMaam

quote:

ORIGINAL: MHOO314

You write like a woman of many generations, yet when I look at your profile, I see 21??? You now know what you want with a lifetime to find it.


You said that so much sweeter than I was thinking.  Once I saw the profile I laughed. Sorry, couldn't help it!

OH to be 21 again and know what I know now!!!!!

Texas Maam


Hmmm, well imagine if I know what I know now,  I should know a whole lot more by the time Im your age....   After all age is only a number, lack of it doesnt make me any less entilted to my feelings or opinions,  even if they are perhaps more developed then your own were at the same age.... after all times are a'changing.  Youth is not an invalidation of worth.

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RE: Hanging up my whips - 4/1/2006 6:16:53 AM   
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quote:


quote:

ORIGINAL: TexasMaam


quote:

ORIGINAL: MHOO314

You write like a woman of many generations, yet when I look at your profile, I see 21??? You now know what you want with a lifetime to find it.


You said that so much sweeter than I was thinking.  Once I saw the profile I laughed. Sorry, couldn't help it!

OH to be 21 again and know what I know now!!!!!

Texas Maam



Hmmm, well imagine if I know what I know now,  I should know a whole lot more by the time Im your age....   After all age is only a number, lack of it doesnt make me any less entilted to my feelings or opinions,  even if they are perhaps more developed then your own were at the same age.... after all times are a'changing.  Youth is not an invalidation of worth.


She was not being impolite...or disrespectful and you should not have gotten your nose bent on this statement...at your age there is a certain intensity which not necessarily diminshes with age but there is something valid to be said for having more experience just to have a different framework of life experience to perceive your or anyone's perception from...you are obviously mature for your age, which is refreshing but you are not the only one to have gone through this or any other situation...as you continue experiencing and learning from those experiences...some of the immediacy and the either/or aspects fade into more of a relational/situational understanding...I too was a very intense person at your age, had been since 14...almost burnt Myself out by 24, literally...came close to dying several times through My own self-destructive behavior as well as burnt people out with My seeking for knowledge and truth...those I had and still have respect for could only bear Me in short period of times because I was emotionally and intellectually demanding and exhausting of those around Me. I am almost 40, still a 'pup' yet older by generations to some re:My experience...but mellower, less extreme...not less intense.
So put your claws away and appreciate that some of us don't envy your age but we remember being there...and we recognize your plight.

C


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RE: Hanging up my whips - 4/1/2006 8:20:03 AM   
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I am a Male Dom and I feel the same as you often. I have probably more than my share of "playthings", females who come to the Museum to play and  I still haven't found My"ONE" and I am 56 years young. I am hoping she will turn up and am waiting for her with open arms, cage and  warm flogger  LOL. It does get frustrating but to me the joy is in the search, I enjoy messaging submissives and am amazed at how often I get a reply, mostly due to CM Posters who have helped me work on my Profile and message writing technique.

I read your Profile and the first thing you say is "I will not relocate", you have the right to say this and of course you do not have to relocate but to me and I can only answer for me it is a bit negative and not enticing...as a Dom when I read a profile I hope to be enticed in by positive beginnings  ...

Hope I helped a little bit. Good luck, hang in there and hope to read soon you are serving happily.....

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RE: Hanging up my whips - 4/1/2006 8:37:32 AM   
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Greetings From NerthusManor,
LadySin and Myself, as well as a few others we know, seemed to take a couple of years of to rebuild ourselves, AS much fun that The Manor was to operate, there were many things that disturbed us. That said I believe it is a healty thing to take a break. In our case we were content to staqy private again. However, there are a few close friends in this lifestyle that have asked us to be a part once again. To them we say... YES WERE BACK!!! Look out slaves.. reality is on its way. Although we may have stayed out of the lifestyle my hands never really let go of my whip... Just let is relaxe for a bit. Besides my whip arms are kept in shape from my flyfishing.. which is really just on heck of a long whip. Take care for now...

Flogginly Yours,
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RE: Hanging up my whips - 4/1/2006 4:12:52 PM   
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I read your Profile and the first thing you say is "I will not relocate",


Im not sure you read the right profile ??  My opening lines are: Ive been in the BDSM scene/lifestyle for a few years now and believe that there is still much to learn and experiment with. Infact I dont mention relocation at all? Only that I will not cyber play.  But thankyou for your kind words...  and the kind words of everyone else as well.  It is comforting to know that Im not the only one who has felt / is feeling like this and I apreciate the time you have all taken to impart what advice you have. 
 
Taking a break with the intent to return seems to be the general consensus, and to some degree I think that is good advice... 

Monique
 

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RE: Hanging up my whips - 4/1/2006 4:17:40 PM   
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I wonder sometimes if others in the lifestyle sometimes concider hanging up their whips.  As much as it is a pleasure to play, after a while the casual play becomes unfurfilling (much like a series of one night stands would in the vanilla world) and the transition from casual play to something deeper, more meaningful, more intense and long term becomes becomes nothing more then an unobtainable desire. 

I believe that BDSM runs in my veins and it is a very natural and intrinsic part of myself yet I feel that the constant fruitless search wears me down, one disapointment after another becomes unbarable.   I wonder how to balance that feeling with the desire to full whole within myself,  By denying or suspressing what I know is an element of myself and how I define myself as a person is not healthy I am sure.  

This paradox of emotion leaves me wondering what is ultimatly the healthiest, most self forfling decision... is it to continue the search and experiance disapointment after disappointment with an attitude of optimisim that I will eventully find what I seek, Or with grace and dignity hang up my whips and acknolege that this part of me exists, but must remain unsatisfied ?

Im sure many people are not at this place and do not understand why I can not get the joy I once useto from casual play, which, not to sound conceited, as a young female Domme I can pretty much have on tap,  after all there is 100 submissive men  to every Domme,  each one so far lacking the the necicairy compatibility I seek.

Which does begin to beg the question, am I too selective,  am I expecting too much in a meer man?  I dont think I am,  If we were talking in a vanilla sense Im sure no one would advise me to date a man that did not make me happy...  why is this any diffrent ?  Why should I settle for what is offered if the mutural compatibility is not there?

Now I understand that for others they require no more then the 2 basic compatibility triats, 1 Dom/me + 1 sub = Play partners....  But I do expect more... When I first started out, I was younger and far more foolish, greatful for the opitunity to play at all....  But now want more, and expect more.   Im no longer satisfied with their submission on the basis that I am dominate, I began to get the feeling that the tables had turned, and I was no more then a figure head for some sleezy sub to play out his own fantasy, that he (and this "he" applies in general to all past play patners) did not care who he was submitting to,  just that he could submit....  he probably would have submitted to a 3 headed troll if it weilded a whip. 

Perhaps I am begining to sound cynical, and if this is the cynicisim brought on by the futile search then perhaps it is healthier to hang up the whips and join the ranks of the unsatisfied but less jaded -The married men looking for a spark on the side because they gave up and settled for something less,  something that while great; did not fulfill all their needs. Perhaps the nasty old spinster who hates the world because she was never happy with what she had?
Is it better to give up then fail repeatedly?  Is the holy grail worth it? 

Really Id rather just have my cake and eat it too.

 
-Monique


Take a break from kinkiness and date vanilla men for awhile.  Get a taste of some functional courting and non-demanding men (when it comes to kink, that is).  If you find one that delights you, seduce him and show him your world.

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