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Take your kid to work... - 3/3/2010 7:23:49 AM

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And let him/her do your job?

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/3/2010 7:37:10 AM

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/3/2010 7:38:36 AM

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had to have been a rush, for the kid...

I'd have been WAY pissed if I'd been a passenger on one of those flights and knew the kid was doing that, though....

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/3/2010 7:43:45 AM

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Yea, me too. I actually thought (at first), if an adult is present and the ability to jump in and correct something before an error occurred, it may not be a bad learning experience for a kind. But then, substitute that same logic with a surgeon or any other job of the like and well....I can imagine the lunacy of it all.

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/3/2010 7:44:31 AM

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yeah, that was my thinking too....

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/3/2010 8:23:24 AM

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Oooooo! Does this mean that I can let Butterhead do the rigging on the next MRI magnet we take out? I am sure that it will be PERFECTLY safe!

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/3/2010 10:37:01 AM

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It made the BBC news tonight - to be honest, from the report presented, it didnt seem that anyone was in any danger and more like something that almost any dad might do to give his kid a go at some aspect of his job or other activities outside of work. Its only the context and the worries over airliner security thats blowing it all up to what its become/turning into. Its clear to me that the dad was there, listening in and telling the kid what to say over the radio to pilots manoevering on the ground not in the air (in which latter case it would be a serious matter). The breach of employment and personnel regulations though is another matter.

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/3/2010 11:03:25 AM

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/3/2010 12:38:28 PM

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When I was a kid, my dad and a couple of his friends went together to buy a small plane. My dad took me up on several occasions and let me handle the controls. I don't see a big difference here. If the guy violated policies or regulations, then disciplinary action is in order. If not, then this is getting blown way out of proportion.

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/3/2010 12:44:33 PM

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Somehow putting a kid in front of one of my classes just doesn't seem likely to fly...

...letting them push a few buttons, sure.

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/4/2010 4:50:35 AM

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It doesn't seem as if there was any danger at any time. He repeated a few words and at no time was in control of the planes, his father was.

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/4/2010 5:14:52 AM

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It is actually a huge deal. The air traffic controllers have a high stress and high responsibility job. Their training period is intense and very few are actually cut out for the job. Think about it, they have to ensure the safe departure and landing of a very large number of planes at one time, especially in an airport like JFK. Nerves of steel are required. How one thought it was ok to pull this off, I have no clue. Had I been a pilot on the other end, I would have been pissed. I hope the FAA suspends the parent/atc for not taking into account the potential risk to human lives.

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/4/2010 5:25:07 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

It is actually a huge deal. The air traffic controllers have a high stress and high responsibility job. Their training period is intense and very few are actually cut out for the job. Think about it, they have to ensure the safe departure and landing of a very large number of planes at one time, especially in an airport like JFK. Nerves of steel are required. How one thought it was ok to pull this off, I have no clue. Had I been a pilot on the other end, I would have been pissed. I hope the FAA suspends the parent/atc for not taking into account the potential risk to human lives.

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Unless the pilot was drunk like so many are these days... trust me they wouldnt know if it was a kid or not
adds: I'm a frequent flyer and I fly monthly in and out of JFK I didnt think it was that big of a deal.

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/4/2010 5:35:58 AM

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

it didnt seem that anyone was in any danger and more like something that almost any dad might do to give his kid a go at some aspect of his job or other activities outside of work. Its only the context and the worries over airliner security thats blowing it all up to what its become/turning into. Its clear to me that the dad was there, listening in and telling the kid what to say over the radio to pilots manoevering on the ground not in the air (in which latter case it would be a serious matter).
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To add to this I remember as a kid almost every flight I took I was able to go up to the cock pit and hang with the pilots and ( pretend to fly the plane). Now security being what it is you no longer can do it.

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/4/2010 5:44:52 AM

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I thought it was a non-issue. It's not like the controller just handed over the mic and said, "Honey bring'em in...I'm heading off to Charlies for a few."

The kids just repeated exactly what they were told to say. People blow this shit out of proportion. It's like when you were a kid and you sat and dad's lap as you drove through town. Today that parent would be vilified. Is it wrong? I dunno, it's just not that big of a deal.

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/4/2010 6:25:00 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

It is actually a huge deal. The air traffic controllers have a high stress and high responsibility job. Their training period is intense and very few are actually cut out for the job. Think about it, they have to ensure the safe departure and landing of a very large number of planes at one time, especially in an airport like JFK. Nerves of steel are required. How one thought it was ok to pull this off, I have no clue. Had I been a pilot on the other end, I would have been pissed. I hope the FAA suspends the parent/atc for not taking into account the potential risk to human lives.

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Can you possibly overreact a little more?

Do you think the controller just went out for a smoke and let his kid take over?

All he did was allow him to make a couple routine radio calls.

It broke up the monotony for both the pilots and the controller.

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/4/2010 6:46:11 AM

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I agree with LadyAngelica. It is a huge deal. Everyone who knew what was happening in that tower should be disciplined. This is JFK.

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/4/2010 6:54:53 AM

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A good idea, take the kid to work, show them what you do, what better way to get across the work ethic, certainly a better way than what the educators are doing. As we all know, sometimes work can be fun, the banter that goes on, and from my experience, one of my past jobs I just loved, for to me it was fun, messing around with machines all day, my childhood dream come true. My father used to take me to work on a regular basis when he had to work at week ends, I loved it, but of course that was before the time of health and safety and the sometimes nonsensical ways it can work. I understood from an early age that one had to work after school, and after school I went at it seeking a job just as soon as I could, only to be thwarted by mass unemployment at the time, the mid eighties. My choice was shipping, but in the eighties, UK shipping was destroyed.

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/4/2010 7:18:36 AM

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I agree with LadyAngelica. It is a huge deal. Everyone who knew what was happening in that tower should be disciplined. This is JFK.

And planes fell out of the sky.

If it was a huge deal, something would have happened. Nothing transpired accept Lady A and you overreacting. No big surprise. Tell me, what was the worse thing that could have happened? Seriously. Adults were right there. Were all the planes in danger of spontaneously combusting? Perhaps it is a little disconcerting that a childs voice was heard on the radio? The portions of the tape that I heard the pilots laughed and didn't seem to bat an eye.

http://video.ap.org/?f=AP&pid=GWe676aQhbSyPvfCsiV1L8cLIKdhC1HV

Get over yourselves.

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RE: Take your kid to work... - 3/4/2010 11:02:21 AM

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I agree with LadyAngelica. It is a huge deal. Everyone who knew what was happening in that tower should be disciplined. This is JFK.

What does that mean?

Somehow clearing a plane for takeoff is more complicated at JFK than at La Guardia, or Teterboro, or Wichita, KS?

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