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RE: Public BDSM...single vs partnered - 3/3/2010 2:04:32 PM   
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I go to a few more when single and on the hunt. When with a Mistress, we often go to parties, but if we miss one, expecially one that is not all that promising, it's no big deal. I met my current Mistress at a fetish party. I wasn't even going to go, but friends talked me into going. It was her first fetish event. We have been together for almost seven years now.

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RE: Public BDSM...single vs partnered - 3/3/2010 2:17:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

As to your last question, I would say that My gender and skill level do play a part in this.



I'd have to disagree with you when you say that skill level plays a significant part-I went to my first ever party last month, completely alone, and was made to feel totally welcome and accepted-these people had never seen me play, had absolutely no idea what my level of skill/experience might be, and they were lovely regardless.


Please note that I included gender in My response.  I've said this on other threads before.  I tend to think that females get a better reception than males and that hold regardless of which side of the kneel.

The experience part I am basing on settings where people have known Me, known My style of play, and are more likely to want to bottom to Me with that in mind.

I included LP's post in my answer because what she said, mixed with what vaguely curious said, and uniquely raven said earlier, made me curious about several things.

Lady Pact, is it your gender that is more acceptable to others or is it your orientation or is it just the "you" that you are...or is it a combination of factors?  I would ask the same question of vaguely curious and uniquely raven...and here is why:  as a top/dominant and a strong woman, you have no problems asking, or with being asked about play.  This is to be expected in the clubs most times...you are the dominant and from what I have seen, most people expect the dominant to ask.  Does the fact that the dominant is female make a difference or is it you? 

Now then, come to Vaguely Curious.  Is it possible that one of the reasons you are made to feel welcomed and accepted is, as Lady Pact said, the fact that you are female rather than male? AND a lesbian female dominant at that? 

Finally, I come to unique raven.  A submissive woman.  She states "i totally understand this feeling - and agree. It is easy for me to get overwhelmed too, in general - and when at a party just go into "pleasing" mode. " in response to something beth said.  In an earlier post, she noted that "i have never been inclined to go to BDSM play parties, group meetings, events, etc. as an unowned slave. This is for several reasons, one being that i'm a very private person, and two, that i have a very hard time saying "no" when someone wants to play with me - i have a very strong internal need to be pleasing, and saying "no" is difficult. i have gotten into situations before in the past where i really didn't want to be played with, but i did it anyway, for that reason. So i've set a rule for myself against such play while unowned, in order to protect myself as my future Owner's property. " 

In this case, is it the fact that she is a submissive woman that brings on the suitors?  Is it the fact that she is attractive to boot?  Is it the fact that she has a hard time saying "no" to dominants whose force of will/desire/want is stronger than her own need to do what she would rather do versus being pleasing "to the dominant"? 

Is part of what comes into play in making a decision to attend this notion?  That even in "tolerant, forward-thinking" D/s BDSM clubs/munches/events, it is still more common for the male...dominant or submissive...to be doing the asking and for the woman...dominant or submissive...to either be saying "yes" or "no" and so, when you come across a woman who does the asking, how many potential male partners...submissive or dominant...are likely to say " "no"?

So...what does determine whether you go alone or with others?  Is it the gender?  Your personality?  Your orientation?  The knowledge of self and being able to do what you want as a single unpartnered individual, whether dominant or submissive, and not be overtaken by a stronger force of will when you didn't want that at the start of the night?  For me, I have gone to events alone as both a single and someone who was partnered and I have gone to events with my partner or with a friend.  What determined what I did was who I am as an individual and the significance of where I stood in My life with/without someone else at the moment.



I'd have to say that it comes from a combination of factors.  I'm female, I'm a top, I'm fairly good at what I do, and I'm very outgoing in social situations.  I tend to think all four are positives in regard to the question.  Out of those, I've probably listed them in order as to what has led to My opinion.

While it may be true that most expect the Dominant to ask, I'm not burdened with this the majority of the time.  The times that I approach bottoms to play is relatively few.  It increases in areas that folks aren't familiar with Me.  Going to a play party with a group of people that I've never met before is different than Me going to one of the clubs in Atlanta.  The percentages change.

In My own case, truthfully, I prefer to be asked.  I'm more likely to accept an invitation for play than to initiate one.  It's just the way I'm wired.


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RE: Public BDSM...single vs partnered - 3/3/2010 2:21:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Now then, come to Vaguely Curious.  Is it possible that one of the reasons you are made to feel welcomed and accepted is, as Lady Pact said, the fact that you are female rather than male? AND a lesbian female dominant at that?



For sure-I'm female, young, and attractive. I'm sorry if this sounds bad, but those three things are going to make me popular at any gathering of random people. What I was querying was the importance of skill level-I honestly don't think it affected how well I was received.


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RE: Public BDSM...single vs partnered - 3/3/2010 3:14:13 PM   
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I always hated going alone so I rarely ever attended events. I don't like people staring at me like a piece of meat (unless I'm in a relationship with him) and I don't like casual sex or playing. It just leaves me cold and does nothing for me.

For me it was like going to a bar alone to sulk in your beer. It's lonely, depressing and pathetic, at least for me.

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RE: Public BDSM...single vs partnered - 3/3/2010 3:29:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tayr

@UniqueRaven (and others who avoid the events): I can't speak for other areas, but around Austin there are many different types of groups. Some have no play whatsoever (happy hours or coffee house get-togethers), or limited play (like Austin Voyagers or SAADE meetings). So, if you DO enjoy socializing with other kinky folks, you might try one of those kinds of get-togethers instead. That way you don't have to worry about anybody trying to get you to play with them.



i understand, and even the socializing is a bit nerve-wracking for me. Just feeling the intensity of the energy from the D-side of things can be overwhelming at times. Much prefer my Owner there to protect me.

However, if i'm missing seeing a Dom in a bunny suit with a "14 inch weiner" by not going to Austin meetings, perhaps i really am missing out on something......hee hee!


edited b/c i made a mistake. Whoops@

< Message edited by UniqueRaven -- 3/3/2010 3:46:38 PM >


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RE: Public BDSM...single vs partnered - 3/3/2010 3:40:45 PM   
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I have never gone to a bar alone and had to sit for long, sulking in my drink. :) Men approach... lol it kind of took out the sulk part.

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

For me it was like going to a bar alone to sulk in your beer. It's lonely, depressing and pathetic, at least for me.


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RE: Public BDSM...single vs partnered - 3/3/2010 4:07:58 PM   
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I have probably gone to more events alone than with a partner. Sometimes it is hard, sometimes it is soft, my reception I mean. Sometimes you know people or luck out and someone knows you, much of how you are recieved has to do with your ease in social settings. That said, some munches are great at welcoming new people, others aren't.

Single male dominants are idiots and assholes till proven otherwise. Young women are perfect till proven over and over and over that they aren't and someone will still hit on them. Some munches are run by the submissives and they will literally give the cold shoulder to someone who is more attactive but will welcome someone who isn't. Life isn't always fair like that.

Some people are lucky, like me, and have lots of choices every week and if I go to SF, just about every night. Othe people have one munch and if it isn't a good fit, they are fucked. If you have choices, check them all out, if you don't, try it a few times before you quit.

Walking in with someone as hot as BSB is hard to beat though, I have to say...but being single isn't all that bad either.

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RE: Public BDSM...single vs partnered - 3/3/2010 4:25:29 PM   
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I just want to pop in and say thanks so much to everyone who has responded so far.  I like that people have added questions (thank you CreativeDominant for expanding my question on gender/orientation/experience being a factor) and made changes to make my op more personal and not completely BDSM related (thanks Mercnbeth in particular...I like the surprise of having my questions returned as questions).

As an extroverted introvert who doesn't like public play or big events but is open, curious and giving her Etch-a-Sketch of life an upside-down shake in order to facilitate new growth....I thank you all.


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RE: Public BDSM...single vs partnered - 3/3/2010 9:38:41 PM   
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when i was just starting out in the lifestyle i was looking to find like minded folks i did not know about the some of the meet and greets and as i was stationed at ft sam my time was limited. i would drive to the nearest dungeon in Dallas some 4 hours away. i would not have gone to a major event alone as i would not have had anyone to guide me. as far as being unowned it would be better to attend as many different activity's as possible to meet someone. when i went to the dungeon in Atlanta GA i was only looking to find a play partner. now i have been collared for over 2 years by my Mistress
my  advice to you would be to find a local group and start attending the munches and meet and greets, find a Friend possibly a fellow sub to attend with and go to some of the larger functions together

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RE: Public BDSM...single vs partnered - 3/4/2010 6:58:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder
I always hated going alone so I rarely ever attended events. I don't like people staring at me like a piece of meat (unless I'm in a relationship with him)

That hasn't really solved the problem for us, the creepy people just tend to approach me instead of her.

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RE: Public BDSM...single vs partnered - 3/4/2010 8:15:03 AM   
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Most of the people I've been involved with weren't into public BDSM, so I didn't go to events while we were dating. My Master has been one of two exceptions, but I go more often with just my playpartner than all three of us. When I went to playparties, when I was single, I only played if I already had a playpartner lined up ahead of time. I'm not usually comfortable with playing with a complete stranger. I did make one exception, for a teacher who I had taken some classes from, and had talked with quite a bit beforehand. I was fine going to munches alone, but the format tends to be difficult for me to socialise in. Everyone has been friendly, it's just difficult to hear what people are saying at the round-table types, and whenever I get a conversation going, a bunch of people tend to join us and all talk at once! Small discussion groups work better for me.

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RE: Public BDSM...single vs partnered - 3/5/2010 8:42:39 AM   
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It's not much fun going anywhere single. And if you have someone at home, why go out? So my answer would be no to both. I'd just as soon stay home. Those that enjoy public play I think is fine. It's just not my thing, and not what I'm all about.

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