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WestMIBDSMCouple -> Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 5:26:59 PM)

My girlfriend, Mistress, and I are starting a new "program," where it's not a specific amount of time before I can cum, but rather I have to earn points.

Once I earn a number of points they decide upon, I get to cum, and then they come up with a new number (maybe they tell me, maybe they don't!), and I start over.

So far, I have the following ideas for things I can do to earn points:
Wear Panties in Public
Wear Panties to Work
Wear Lipstick in Public
Wear Eye Makeup in Public
Wear Nail Polish/Press-Ons in Public
Sucking a Cock
Taking a Cock in Ass
Perform a Manicure/Pedicure
Prepare a Meal
Give a Massage (Back, Foot, etc.)


Does anyone have any suggestions of things I might do that earn me orgasm points? They can be things I do for my girlfriend, or kinky/sexual things that I do in public or private.

Thank you!




FukinTroll -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 5:32:51 PM)

I would say... ride the express train to polls and random stupidity. 




LadyAngelika -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 5:34:07 PM)

While I'm all for men doing sweet things to make me happy like the last 3 you enumerated (with the exception that my manicurist rocks and no boy will replace her) I'm not fond at all of men doing things with the ulterior motive of getting an orgasm out of the deal.

- LA




LadyPact -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 5:34:50 PM)

Yes, I have some suggestions.  First of all, skip anything that involves the non consensual public.

If I were to apply this system (which isn't a bad idea, btw), I would make it more service oriented.  In other words, do the things that make her life easier/more enjoyable for her, to earn more points.  A full body massage after a long day without sexual contact for you would be a plus.  Serving as you've been instructed for a certain period (maybe a week) without issue would be another.  Drawing her bath, ironing her clothes without prompting, have her things ready for her to go to work, or don't miss her morning coffee for a period of time.  All of those things would work well.

My guess is, the point system is her way to get you focused on her, rather than you.  Sure, there is an eventual pay off, but it isn't based on the mentality that she is there for your benefit and kink fulfillment.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 5:35:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

I would say... ride the express train to polls and random stupidity. 


All aboard!!

Edited to say, that it's kind of legitimate, but best suited for Ask A Mistress. We are used to educating the cock-centred boys there ;-)

- LA




WestMIBDSMCouple -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 5:44:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Yes, I have some suggestions.  First of all, skip anything that involves the non consensual public.

If I were to apply this system (which isn't a bad idea, btw), I would make it more service oriented.  In other words, do the things that make her life easier/more enjoyable for her, to earn more points.  A full body massage after a long day without sexual contact for you would be a plus.  Serving as you've been instructed for a certain period (maybe a week) without issue would be another.  Drawing her bath, ironing her clothes without prompting, have her things ready for her to go to work, or don't miss her morning coffee for a period of time.  All of those things would work well.

My guess is, the point system is her way to get you focused on her, rather than you.  Sure, there is an eventual pay off, but it isn't based on the mentality that she is there for your benefit and kink fulfillment.



Regarding your comment about non-consensual public: where does one draw the line? I just fail to see how me wearing panties or a bit of makeup in public is unduly forcing someone else into taking part in these activities. I absolutely agree that forcing someone else to take part in something they do not wish to take part in is wrong, but I don't necessarily see what I've outlined as doing that.

Her goal is for me to find a combination of things; I'm to find both service-oriented tasks as well as things that might push my limits beyond what I would normally find comfortable. You've provided a number of excellent ideas for the service-oriented side, and for that, I thank you.




WestMIBDSMCouple -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 5:46:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

I would say... ride the express train to polls and random stupidity. 


All aboard!!

Edited to say, that it's kind of legitimate, but best suited for Ask A Mistress. We are used to educating the cock-centred boys there ;-)

- LA



Well, I didn't post it there because I'm not expressly asking only Masters or Mistresses. I should think that anyone, regardless of their position, might be able to provide input.




Lockit -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 6:12:04 PM)

So you have two women interested in your orgasms... two women who can't come up with idea's of what you can do or wish for you to be creative and you ask us?

I'm not that interested in your orgasm, so I say... lol... tough it out buddy. That list would have you O'less for a long, long time.




WestMIBDSMCouple -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 6:17:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

So you have two women interested in your orgasms... two women who can't come up with idea's of what you can do or wish for you to be creative and you ask us?

I'm not that interested in your orgasm, so I say... lol... tough it out buddy. That list would have you O'less for a long, long time.



While I understand that I'm posing the question to a group of dominant women, I just don't understand the sheer bitchiness and unwillingness to be helpful in any way. I spent hours Googling and came up with very little. So I simply made a post asking for assistance. If you don't want to help, that's fine, there's nothing that requires you to help, but do you really need to post a useless attack on my thread? I just don't understand.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 6:21:48 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: WestMIBDSMCouple

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

So you have two women interested in your orgasms... two women who can't come up with idea's of what you can do or wish for you to be creative and you ask us?

I'm not that interested in your orgasm, so I say... lol... tough it out buddy. That list would have you O'less for a long, long time.



While I understand that I'm posing the question to a group of dominant women, I just don't understand the sheer bitchiness and unwillingness to be helpful in any way. I spent hours Googling and came up with very little. So I simply made a post asking for assistance. If you don't want to help, that's fine, there's nothing that requires you to help, but do you really need to post a useless attack on my thread? I just don't understand.



Maybe because really it's a no brainier. Chores, any chores: mowing the lawn, shovelling the snow, raking the leaves, taking out the trash, giving the dog a bath, doing the laundry, washing dishes, anything really to help her out.

Does it have to be kinky? Does your Mistress have to cater to your kink for you to earn the points? Are you willing to do things that aren't glamorous to earn these points? I'm just asking.

- LA




WestMIBDSMCouple -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 6:25:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika


quote:

ORIGINAL: WestMIBDSMCouple

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

So you have two women interested in your orgasms... two women who can't come up with idea's of what you can do or wish for you to be creative and you ask us?

I'm not that interested in your orgasm, so I say... lol... tough it out buddy. That list would have you O'less for a long, long time.



While I understand that I'm posing the question to a group of dominant women, I just don't understand the sheer bitchiness and unwillingness to be helpful in any way. I spent hours Googling and came up with very little. So I simply made a post asking for assistance. If you don't want to help, that's fine, there's nothing that requires you to help, but do you really need to post a useless attack on my thread? I just don't understand.



Maybe because really it's a no brainier. Chores, any chores: mowing the lawn, shovelling the snow, raking the leaves, taking out the trash, giving the dog a bath, doing the laundry, washing dishes, anything really to help her out.

Does it have to be kinky? Does your Mistress have to cater to your kink for you to earn the points? Are you willing to do things that aren't glamorous to earn these points? I'm just asking.

- LA



As I specifically stated, I was told to find BOTH service oriented items as well as kinky items that might push my limits. Unfortunately, no, my girlfriend isn't the most creative person, and neither am I. We enjoy the activities, but honestly, we both suck at coming up with new ideas. So I came on here to ask for help, thinking that I might actually get some positive responses. Doing ordinary chores is fine, and those will certainly be on there, but I was hoping maybe there was something more clever that I just wasn't thinking of, things that might be outside the norm of what I do on a day to day basis.




Lockit -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 6:26:50 PM)

I didn't say that with one ounce of bitchiness. I found it all humorous. How many men want two women concerned about their orgasms and how many actually get it? Now you aren't figuring out what you can do on your own and most things you have figured out are centered around you.

What do these two women want? For you to ask a bunch of strangers what will please the two or to see what you can come up with on your own? I would not want my submissive asking other people. I would want to see what he could imagine, what he knew about me and what creative juices he could get flowing.

Had even half of your list actually been something pleasing to a great portion of women, I might have thought differently, but not with most of this stuff being kinky fun for you. I couldn't take it seriously. I could take it humorously.




Elisabella -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 6:26:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: WestMIBDSMCouple

My girlfriend, Mistress, and I are starting a new "program," where it's not a specific amount of time before I can cum, but rather I have to earn points.

Once I earn a number of points they decide upon, I get to cum, and then they come up with a new number (maybe they tell me, maybe they don't!), and I start over.

So far, I have the following ideas for things I can do to earn points:
Wear Panties in Public
Wear Panties to Work
Wear Lipstick in Public
Wear Eye Makeup in Public
Wear Nail Polish/Press-Ons in Public
Sucking a Cock
Taking a Cock in Ass
Perform a Manicure/Pedicure
Prepare a Meal
Give a Massage (Back, Foot, etc.)


Does anyone have any suggestions of things I might do that earn me orgasm points? They can be things I do for my girlfriend, or kinky/sexual things that I do in public or private.

Thank you!



I think it depends on what the goal is - if the goal is kink, where you have to endure a certain amount of humiliation before you can orgasm, then do things like the first few on your list. If the goal is submission, where you have to put her first in order to orgasm, do things like the last 3. The list really splits right there and I don't know if your focus is more on yourself or on her.

Neither focus is 'better' of course but it will set the tone of how these things work. I might also suggest not having a list of specific things, but rather, she can assign you points when she feels like it, so it keeps her in charge rather than you. She might give you a point for obeying an order to wear lipstick in public, where the point is for the obedience rather than for the lipstick.

That way too you'll start to be more aware, you'll do nice things for her in general rather than doing specific nice things to get a point, and the fact that you don't know whether or not you'll get a point for, say, making dinner, is operant conditioning at its finest. It also reduces expectation on your part and keeps her firmly in control.

Of course if it's a kink thing then yes, go for the kinky things to earn points, just make sure that it's something she enjoys too. If she's really into being a top it'll be great fun, but if she's not that much into kink topping and would rather focus on D/s you might want to do it the service way.




SweetDommes -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 6:27:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: WestMIBDSMCouple

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

So you have two women interested in your orgasms... two women who can't come up with idea's of what you can do or wish for you to be creative and you ask us?

I'm not that interested in your orgasm, so I say... lol... tough it out buddy. That list would have you O'less for a long, long time.



While I understand that I'm posing the question to a group of dominant women, I just don't understand the sheer bitchiness and unwillingness to be helpful in any way. I spent hours Googling and came up with very little. So I simply made a post asking for assistance. If you don't want to help, that's fine, there's nothing that requires you to help, but do you really need to post a useless attack on my thread? I just don't understand.


First, what LA said. Second - the reason you're getting the response that you have, is because this is a question similar to many others that have been posted over the last few years (at least) by guys who are really just looking for wank material. I have no desire or obligation to provide that to you or anyone else.

Bottom line is, if you really have a Mistress, then do things that will make her happy and make her life easier. She's the only one who can tell you what those thigns are. If you don't - sorry, sucks to be you.




LadyPact -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 6:29:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WestMIBDSMCouple

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Yes, I have some suggestions.  First of all, skip anything that involves the non consensual public.

If I were to apply this system (which isn't a bad idea, btw), I would make it more service oriented.  In other words, do the things that make her life easier/more enjoyable for her, to earn more points.  A full body massage after a long day without sexual contact for you would be a plus.  Serving as you've been instructed for a certain period (maybe a week) without issue would be another.  Drawing her bath, ironing her clothes without prompting, have her things ready for her to go to work, or don't miss her morning coffee for a period of time.  All of those things would work well.

My guess is, the point system is her way to get you focused on her, rather than you.  Sure, there is an eventual pay off, but it isn't based on the mentality that she is there for your benefit and kink fulfillment.



Regarding your comment about non-consensual public: where does one draw the line? I just fail to see how me wearing panties or a bit of makeup in public is unduly forcing someone else into taking part in these activities. I absolutely agree that forcing someone else to take part in something they do not wish to take part in is wrong, but I don't necessarily see what I've outlined as doing that.

Her goal is for me to find a combination of things; I'm to find both service-oriented tasks as well as things that might push my limits beyond what I would normally find comfortable. You've provided a number of excellent ideas for the service-oriented side, and for that, I thank you.


Quite frankly, if it is her goal, allow her to ask the question. 

I tend to draw the line very much on the conservative sign.  My kinks are never more important than the thrill that I receive from doing these things.  Those folks have every right not to be involved as you do to expressing yourself.




WestMIBDSMCouple -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 6:35:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Elisabella


quote:

ORIGINAL: WestMIBDSMCouple

My girlfriend, Mistress, and I are starting a new "program," where it's not a specific amount of time before I can cum, but rather I have to earn points.

Once I earn a number of points they decide upon, I get to cum, and then they come up with a new number (maybe they tell me, maybe they don't!), and I start over.

So far, I have the following ideas for things I can do to earn points:
Wear Panties in Public
Wear Panties to Work
Wear Lipstick in Public
Wear Eye Makeup in Public
Wear Nail Polish/Press-Ons in Public
Sucking a Cock
Taking a Cock in Ass
Perform a Manicure/Pedicure
Prepare a Meal
Give a Massage (Back, Foot, etc.)


Does anyone have any suggestions of things I might do that earn me orgasm points? They can be things I do for my girlfriend, or kinky/sexual things that I do in public or private.

Thank you!



I think it depends on what the goal is - if the goal is kink, where you have to endure a certain amount of humiliation before you can orgasm, then do things like the first few on your list. If the goal is submission, where you have to put her first in order to orgasm, do things like the last 3. The list really splits right there and I don't know if your focus is more on yourself or on her.

Neither focus is 'better' of course but it will set the tone of how these things work. I might also suggest not having a list of specific things, but rather, she can assign you points when she feels like it, so it keeps her in charge rather than you. She might give you a point for obeying an order to wear lipstick in public, where the point is for the obedience rather than for the lipstick.

That way too you'll start to be more aware, you'll do nice things for her in general rather than doing specific nice things to get a point, and the fact that you don't know whether or not you'll get a point for, say, making dinner, is operant conditioning at its finest. It also reduces expectation on your part and keeps her firmly in control.

Of course if it's a kink thing then yes, go for the kinky things to earn points, just make sure that it's something she enjoys too. If she's really into being a top it'll be great fun, but if she's not that much into kink topping and would rather focus on D/s you might want to do it the service way.


That's a rather interesting idea - essentially, she has the ability to assign points on a whim. At any given time, I don't know what will be required to please her. It certainly has some appeal.

It's a difficult situation. She's very kinky, but honestly, isn't naturally inclined towards dominating me. She's told me she enjoys it very much, but she's also told me that she finds it very difficult coming up with things that we might both enjoy, largely because she herself isn't exactly certain what she'll like. So far, she's really gotten into feminization, so I tried to include a number of those things on the list. In addition, I tried to include service-oriented items, because I absolutely agree that the list shouldn't be all about me. So, I suppose the list is focus-less, and maybe that's a bad thing. Maybe the scope is too broad and thus presents a certain difficulty in being able to adequately fill it; however, I would tend to think that this situation would increase, rather than reduce, my ability to find items which I might add.

I do thank you for providing an educated and helpful response. I'm sincere in my query. I wish that I had the creativity to fill the list from my own imagination, but I don't.






RedMagic1 -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 6:38:03 PM)

1.  Check out this book list, together.  Decide to buy a book, together.  Then read that book, together.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1726118/mpage_1/tm.htm

Believe it or not, books are far more useful than google or internet anywhere, to learn this stuff.  In person conversation, demonstration, and practice are, of course, better still.

2. Learn how to do this until you are great at it.  No orgasms until you totally rock.

http://www.whitelotuseast.com/YoniMassage.htm

3. Let her choose one "small" thing you do that annoys her, like leaving your socks on the floor.  You don't get to do that anymore, ever.  If you do, no orgasm tonight.




WestMIBDSMCouple -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 6:38:20 PM)

quote:


I have no desire or obligation to provide that to you or anyone else.


That's fine. I at no point forced anyone into responding to my thread. Never once were you or anyone else required to click on my thread and post a response. Yet, I've gotten a glutton of negative responses. That's my issue. If people don't want to be helpful, that's their right, but I just don't understand why their negativity gets directed at me.





RedMagic1 -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 6:41:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WestMIBDSMCouple
If people don't want to be helpful, that's their right, but I just don't understand why their negativity gets directed at me.

I understand why, but I will only tell you if you ask.




dreamerdreaming -> RE: Earning Points for Orgasms (3/9/2010 6:42:15 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WestMIBDSMCouple

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

So you have two women interested in your orgasms... two women who can't come up with idea's of what you can do or wish for you to be creative and you ask us?

I'm not that interested in your orgasm, so I say... lol... tough it out buddy. That list would have you O'less for a long, long time.



While I understand that I'm posing the question to a group of dominant women, I just don't understand the sheer bitchiness and unwillingness to be helpful in any way. I spent hours Googling and came up with very little. So I simply made a post asking for assistance. If you don't want to help, that's fine, there's nothing that requires you to help, but do you really need to post a useless attack on my thread? I just don't understand.




Lockit's calling bullshit on you, and so am I.

I don't believe you have two women over you who can't come up with plenty of ideas of their own. Or that their idea of you coming up with your own ideas would be for you to come here and ask us.

Its fairly obvious that you're a lone troll, seeking wank fodder.




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