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Brain -> Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 9:20:27 AM)

All I want to say is I don't trust anybody these days and I think it's wrong the Catholic Church doesn't allow priests to marry to women. I could understand not allowing priests to marry men but I don't understand and don't agree with not allowing a male priest to marry a woman.  Most heterosexual men think it's unreasonable not to marry and it results in a higher percentage of homosexual men joining the priesthood. The idea that you get married to God is silly in my view.



Pope's brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy

A series of allegations in Germany and Holland have plunged the Catholic Church into a renewed crisis over how it has dealt with child abuse after it emerged that the Pope's brother ran a renowned choir at the centre of some of the latest claims.

"In many schools there was a wall of silence allowing for abuse and violence," said Ms Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger, a prominent critic of the church. She pointed to a Vatican directive from 2001 which required that even the most damaging allegations should be first investigated internally and then reported to the authorities. A church spokesman called her criticisms "absurd".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/popes-brother-linked-to-new-claims-of-child-abuse-by-clergy-1918357.html




pahunkboy -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 9:28:29 AM)

...at the current time- you are simply transferring  headlines.


1. stick with rare items.
2.  make your comments on it.

Otherwise you become a mouth piece of Huffington/CNN/XYZ.

Something to consider.






mcbride -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 10:00:39 AM)


So, Brain, if, in fact, "it results in a higher percentage of homosexual men joining the priesthood," is that a bad thing, in your view?

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ORIGINAL: Brain

All I want to say is I don't trust anybody these days and I think it's wrong the Catholic Church doesn't allow priests to marry to women. I could understand not allowing priests to marry men but I don't understand and don't agree with not allowing a male priest to marry a woman.  Most heterosexual men think it's unreasonable not to marry and it results in a higher percentage of homosexual men joining the priesthood. The idea that you get married to God is silly in my view.





rulemylife -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 10:53:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

...at the current time- you are simply transferring  headlines.


1. stick with rare items.
2.  make your comments on it.

Otherwise you become a mouth piece of Huffington/CNN/XYZ.

Something to consider.



Yeah, he might also consider transferring comments straight from Bob Chapman and Alex Jones.

Because we certainly need to hear more from these two journalistic icons who really know the truth about everything.




MichiganHeadmast -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 10:57:35 AM)

Don't like Catholicism? Don't be one. Problem solved. Others can be Catholic and Brain doesn't have to be one.

Gee, that was easy. Now to show Brain the "off" button that gets rid of Limbaugh and Beck permanently, while not fucking with others that want to listen to folks Brain doesn't like.

So, to summarize (I'll speak slowly):

1) Don't be Catholic. It's optional.

2) Learn where the off button is.

When in doubt, re-read the above.




pahunkboy -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 12:09:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

...at the current time- you are simply transferring  headlines.


1. stick with rare items.
2.  make your comments on it.

Otherwise you become a mouth piece of Huffington/CNN/XYZ.

Something to consider.



Yeah, he might also consider transferring comments straight from Bob Chapman and Alex Jones.

Because we certainly need to hear more from these two journalistic icons who really know the truth about everything.



just to let you know-  the consulting services that Bob Chapman does are for paid subscribers.   Therefor- it is my policy to keep that content available- ONLY to those of us who share the subscription.    This includes= longs- shorts and pretty much anything in his 2x per week newsletter.   

I am sure you understand.




rulemylife -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 1:53:10 PM)

Uh, no, I don't.

Because I have seen a number of your posts that have ended with you telling us your source is Bob Chapman.

So it would seem you are violating your own policy.




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 3:16:07 PM)

Paid subscribers?[:D]

Hey pahunkboy, feel like subscribing to my spiritual air service? It's just terrible that people are breathing in unholy air, they just do not understand how their spirit is being effected by demonic pollutants. There is an answer however...if you send me some bin bags I'll get a priest to fill them with sanctified air and send them back to you. All our air is triple filtered to exclude all microbes without a soul.

Ka-ching!




GotSteel -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 3:29:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MichiganHeadmast
Don't like Catholicism? Don't be one. Problem solved.

No...no it isn't. That doesn't in anyway stop the Catholic Church from abusing children. The Catholic Church has made it very clear that they won't solve this issue on their own, so it's up to each and every one of us to make it clear to the Catholic Church that their continued aiding and abetting of pedophiles in our communities is unacceptable.




Real0ne -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 3:56:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Brain

All I want to say is I don't trust anybody these days and I think it's wrong the Catholic Church doesn't allow priests to marry to women.


because priests and nuns take a vow of celibacy.







SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 4:02:18 PM)

Similarly Real0ne took a vow of idiocy.




kittinSol -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 4:04:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

Similarly Real0ne took a vow of idiocy.


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Real0ne -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 4:08:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

Similarly Real0ne took a vow of idiocy.


wow you people really hold fucking grudges, still pissed off because I posted indisputable proof of th edemolition of 911 I see. Add to that the posing pictures of that prisoner olympic swimming pool at auschwitz.  Must be very painful.

I feel your pain honest I do![image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/stuff/lafn202.gif[/image]









SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 4:12:21 PM)

Nah I only really participate in those such threads for the pure entertainment factor of what shear craziness you are going to say next in responce to well reasoned arguments.




Marc2b -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 6:45:23 PM)

quote:

All I want to say is I don't trust anybody these days and I think it's wrong the Catholic Church doesn't allow priests to marry to women.


I agree (with the Catholic Church part, not the "don't trust anybody" part)… with the understanding that that is just my opinion on the matter. I leave it to the Catholic Church to make their own rules regarding such.

quote:

I could understand not allowing priests to marry men but I don't understand and don't agree with not allowing a male priest to marry a woman. Most heterosexual men think it's unreasonable not to marry and it results in a higher percentage of homosexual men joining the priesthood. The idea that you get married to God is silly in my view.


[Emphasis Mine]

That sounds reasonable but I don’t know if it is true or not. What concerns me with the above statement is that it seems to suggest a connection between homosexuality and pedophilia. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt but some clarification would be nice.

Truth is I don’t know if the Catholic Priesthood has a higher percentage of pedophiles than the male population in general. Common sense says that they will get more media attention from a combination of the gross hypocrisy involved (we expect a higher moral standard from a Priest) as well as good old fashioned anti-Catholicism.

The United States (and I presume the Western world in general) has laws against covering up a crime. Covering up pedophilia should certainly fall under that. It seems to me if we began arresting and charging not just the Priests who commit this horrible crime but those who know about it and do not alert the proper authorities, that the Vatican might change its stance to a more proactive one in combating this stain upon it’s church.




belladevine -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 10:14:02 PM)

I think that every form of religion should be shunned and run out of town. Religion has been given priority over the law for way too long.
It is time to put a stop to church sanctioned child abuse. Why should wee trust in God if God can't hear wee screams???
The Muslims and the Jews and more than 70 % of American male babies have their genitals mutilated without anesthetic.
Religion is slavery of children world wide! Ur God does not recognize the HUMAN RIGHTS of any body at any age.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY258kVzGdE






slvemike4u -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 10:57:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: belladevine

I think that every form of religion should be shunned and run out of town. Religion has been given priority over the law for way too long.
It is time to put a stop to church sanctioned child abuse. Why should wee trust in God if God can't hear wee screams???
The Muslims and the Jews and more than 70 % of American male babies have their genitals mutilated without anesthetic.
Religion is slavery of children world wide! Ur God does not recognize the HUMAN RIGHTS of any body at any age.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY258kVzGdE



Well, whoop-de-do.....allow me to point out that your sprouting this bullshit "Ur God does not recognise the HUMAN RIGHTS of anybody at any age" is paricularly ironic.....YOU don't recignise the rights of other HUMANS to have a faith, nor to believe in a GOD.....That shit is funny!




belladevine -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 11:05:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: belladevine

I think that every form of religion should be shunned and run out of town. Religion has been given priority over the law for way too long.
It is time to put a stop to church sanctioned child abuse. Why should wee trust in God if God can't hear wee screams???
The Muslims and the Jews and more than 70 % of American male babies have their genitals mutilated without anesthetic.
Religion is slavery of children world wide! Ur God does not recognize the HUMAN RIGHTS of any body at any age.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY258kVzGdE



Well, whoop-de-do.....allow me to point out that your sprouting this bullshit "Ur God does not recognise the HUMAN RIGHTS of anybody at any age" is paricularly ironic.....YOU don't recignise the rights of other HUMANS to have a faith, nor to believe in a GOD.....That shit is funny!



FAITH is for those who do not KNOW. You need to get out of the pew and go to school your shit seriously stinks.




slvemike4u -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/10/2010 11:17:00 PM)

See that right there s where you show your ignorance...I'm not a believer...but I do respect the rights of others to believe....Hell to be honest I envy them their ability to do so......if yours wasn't such an incredibly small and closed mind so would you!
The NAACP had an ad campaign years ago probably before your juvenile time, you are living ,breathing validating truth of its message....."a mind is a terrible thing to waste"
edited because their and there get mixed up in my head ;)




belladevine -> RE: Popes brother linked to new claims of child abuse by clergy (3/11/2010 12:35:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

See that right there s where you show your ignorance...I'm not a believer...but I do respect the rights of others to believe....Hell to be honest I envy them their ability to do so......if yours wasn't such an incredibly small and closed mind so would you!
The NAACP had an ad campaign years ago probably before your juvenile time, you are living ,breathing validating truth of its message....."a mind is a terrible thing to waste"
edited because their and there get mixed up in my head ;)


Ignorance is not bliss. People that choose to believe without knowledge can be and usually are very dangerous.
A holey mind is not whole. Holey men are defecient and pathetic. If ewe can't see what I am saying then Ur God
must have cut out your eye balls too.




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