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pahunkboy -> Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 6:30:26 PM)

Food Security Threat: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production
In yet another example of government overstepping its bounds, the Obama administration is preparing to ban fishing in coastal areas around the country, as well as the Great Lakes and other inland water resources: This announcement comes at the time when the situation supposedly still is “fluid” and the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force still hasn’t issued its final report on zoning uses of these waters. That’s a disappointment, but not really a surprise for fishing industry insiders who have negotiated for months with officials at the Council on Environmental Quality and bureaucrats on the task force. These angling advocates have come to suspect that public input into the process was a charade from the beginning. “When the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) and International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW) completed their successful campaign to convince the Ontario government to end one of the best scientifically managed big game hunts in North America (spring bear), the results of their agenda had severe economic impacts on small family businesses and the tourism economy of communities across northern and central Ontario,” said Phil Morlock, director of environmental affairs for Shimano. “Now we see NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) and the administration planning the future of recreational fishing access in America based on a similar agenda of these same groups and other Big Green anti-use organizations, through an Executive Order by the President. The current U.S. direction with fishing is a direct parallel to what happened in Canada with hunting: The negative economic impacts on hard working American families and small businesses are being ignored. “In spite of what we hear daily in the press about the President’s concern for jobs and the economy and contrary to what he stated in the June order creating this process, we have seen no evidence from NOAA or the task force that recreational fishing and related jobs are receiving any priority.” Banning “recreational” fishing isn’t just an issue of economics, but is a threat to the personal liberty of each individual’s right to produce their own food. And banning fishing is just one of several policy changes the government is looking at. In Federal Food Police Coming Soon To A Farm Near You, Tess Pennington points out the risks of letting the government oversee individual food production methods under HR Bill 875 and The FDA Food Safety Modernization Act, which specifically target agricultural goods, including crops and livestock on personal, non-commercial farms: What is to stop the government from defining a small home garden as a food facility? Because of the vagueness of this bill, it is not only the micro farmers that are affected by this. Anyone who has a garden, or shares their produce with neighbors or even owns a local restaurant that supports local farmers and buys their produce could be affected. We could all be affected and pay the price dearly for not speaking up. . Many say that this bill is unconstitutional in that state rights will be stripped away. If passed, the state cannot go in and take care of the problem. It is a federal issue, thus will have federal repercussions. Slowly but surely, the federal government is moving towards eliminating the ability of individual Americans to produce their own food – a direct attack on our lives, liberty and pursuit of happiness. For an administration with so much focus on “sustainability” it is ironic that they are attacking the very core of the sustainability movement – the individual. As more restrictions on the public are cemented through use of Congressional mandates and Presidential Executive Orders, the rights of individuals to take their well being into their own hands is further impeded. Of course, under recent administrations, government is the answer for everything. The rugged individual or neo-survivalist is now becoming the fringe extremist. Why would someone need to produce their own food when they could drive down to the local Walmart or Super Target and pickup up all the genetically modified food they need, manufactured under pristine conditions in one of several centralized processing plants? All of these proposed changes aimed at our ability to produce our own food seem to fall, in part, under the United Nations’ Agenda 21 initiatives which are touted as “sustainability development” programs. It seems, however, that the UN’s ideas for sustainable living focus more on collectivists ideologies than they do on the individual.
Rather than teaching individuals to become self sustaining, the goal of the UN’s Agenda 21 initiative is for the government to provide sustainability to the population. And according to Michael Shaw, president of Freedom Advocates, Agenda 21 can be summarized by three points and are supported by the documents prepared by the United Nations.
The goals of the UN include the abolition of rural and suburban private property, global citizenship education, and population control. It sounds scary, perhaps even unbelievable. But don’t take our word for it, read the Agenda 21 Core Publications at the United Nations Division for Sustainable Development. Based on this evidence, it is important to note that it is not only Barrack Obama that is pushing for restrictions on your ability to fish, or grow food, or manage your own livestock for personal use. This is a global effort with the dictates coming from the United Nations, and it has been happening for several decades. Terrorism against our food supply and unsanitary conditions during food production are only minor issues to our food security when compared to what may be the greatest threat facing sustainable living – our very own government./snip

http://deadlinelive.info/2010/03/10/food-security-threat-goverment-set-to-ban-public-fishing-individual-food-production/






servantforuse -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 6:37:59 PM)

Doesn't Obama have enough stupid stuff on his plate right now ? He needs to have a smoke.




pahunkboy -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 6:43:04 PM)

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/saltwater/news/story?id=4975762  ESPN/   hmmm




Aneirin -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 6:43:49 PM)

I suppose that will piss off the gun ownership lobby, no hunting.




Renee7852 -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 6:45:20 PM)

quote:

“When the (WWF) and (IFAW) completed their successful campaign to convince the Ontario government to end one of the best scientifically managed big game hunts in North America (spring bear), the results of their agenda had severe economic impacts on small family businesses and the tourism economy of communities across northern and central Ontario,” said Phil Morlock, director of environmental affairs for Shimano.


I would be interested in hearing about the severe economic impacts on family businesses and tourism. I, for one, had no idea bear hunting was such a big business. Was there further information on this?

Thank you.




StrangerThan -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 6:46:31 PM)

An espn editor wrote the original piece. This would be insanity. Aside from whether you like fisher-folk or not, the economic impact would be massive to many coastal communities. From what I read, there are "environmental groups" calling for an executive order. That's vague enough to be invented. dunno.

I do know it would be a political nightmare for democrats. They already have the gun lobby and gun owners figuratively up in arms. Why in the hell would they want to needlessly piss off another segment of society?




pahunkboy -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 6:50:01 PM)

http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/documents/09_17_09_Interim_Report_of_Task_Force_FINAL2.pdf  ok- we would have to look this over- to figure it out.




alhamdullilah -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 6:57:13 PM)

Does this not strike anyone as sheer propaganda?? I look at who is quoted for one thing. I haven't read the full article, I guess. Perhaps I should but I really have trouble buying this. Maybe it's just me. ?




Smutmonger -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 7:00:06 PM)

Sounds like total bullshit to me. Especially since he wrote it all out himself-in one paragraph.




Musicmystery -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 7:01:28 PM)

You worry a lot. A real lot.

The feds don't have the cash to field agents to enforce this, even if this flight of fancy had a prayer.




luckydawg -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 7:07:19 PM)

Not to say Pahunk is not a deluded fool, but enforcing Poaching is a profit maker. Any equipment used in poaching can be seized and auctioned off. That means the boat, the vehicle you drove there in, ect.




Lucylastic -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 7:09:45 PM)

Agenda 21 has been around since 1992, check out the UN site for details
the HR875 or whatever it was was introduced a year ago
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-875
not exactly new stuff
someone is cobbling together disinformation and bullshit and all the scared white boy repubs are shitten themselves, threatening harm to Obama on their forums
yeah Ive looked
nasty




Musicmystery -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 7:21:12 PM)

quote:

enforcing Poaching is a profit maker


They can't even stop illegal deer hunting.





DarkSteven -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 7:23:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: alhamdullilah

Does this not strike anyone as sheer propaganda?? I look at who is quoted for one thing. I haven't read the full article, I guess. Perhaps I should but I really have trouble buying this. Maybe it's just me. ?


Nope, it's not just you.

I've never heard of the cited site (try saying that five times fast), and the number of avid hunters and fisherpeople has gotta outnumber the number of PETA folks that would be happy.  Not to mention the crunch on the economy when Obama knows full well he can't afford it.

No mention in MSM.

I'm not buying it.




thornhappy -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 7:26:04 PM)

Take a trip to the site and consider the source.. after about a third of the page it turns into straight propaganda.

BTW hunk, when you clip text from another site, you have to double or triple space the paragraphs, for some reason the formatting's lost on copy and paste jobs.

Makes fer a pain.




jlf1961 -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 7:27:55 PM)

Google "Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production" and it gives you every conspiracy theorist website you could want.

The FEDERAL government only has limited hunting and fishing enforcement, and that is only in National Parks, you can get permits to hunt and fish in Federally administered forests and waters.

Hunting and fishing is not permitted in any area that has been declared a national sanctuary, such as the waters in and around some of the Florida keys.

As for game fishing in public administered coastal waters, enforcement is done by the state, and most non-commercial fishing vessels are not going to be taking tons of fish.

And there is no way the Federal Government can deny any person the right to garden or raise chickens on their private property.

This is just one more conspiracy theory that has about as much truth to it as Richard Nixon claiming there was no cover up over Watergate.




Kirata -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 7:36:22 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

all the scared white boy repubs...

Jeez, it's getting hard to tell where the basement is anymore. This elevator just keeps going down.

K.




servantforuse -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 7:38:03 PM)

If Obama is elected again in 2012, we will not be able to fish. I say vote republican so we can still fish.




Brain -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 8:12:11 PM)

March 9, 2009 at 09:01:37

Monsanto's dream bill, HR 875

By Linn Cohen-Cole (about the author)
opednews.com    Permalink
For OpEdNews:
 
Linn Cohen-Cole - Writer




To begin reversing GM contamination will require ending the power biotech companies such as Monsanto exert over our government and through that, over our food.  

HR 875, was introduced by Rosa DeLauro whose husband Stanley Greenburg works for Monsanto.
 
The bill is monstrous on level after level - the power it  would give to Monsanto, the criminalization of seed banking, the prison terms and confiscatory fines for farmers, the 24 hours GPS tracking of their animals, the easements on their property to allow for warrantless government entry, the stripping away of their property rights, the imposition by the filthy, greedy industrial side of anti-farming international "industrial" standards to independent farms - the only part of our food system that still works, the planned elimination of farmers through all these means.  
 
The corporations want the land, they want more intensive industrialization, they want the end of normal animals so they can substitute patented genetically engineered ones they own, they want the end of normal seeds and thus of seed banking by farmers or individuals.  They want control over all seeds, animals, water, and land.

Our farmers are good stewards.  That is who is threatened by Rosa DeLauro's bill (and because of that, we all are).  At a time in this country when wise stewardship and the production of anything real - especially good food - is what is most needed, it is our best stewards whom Rosa DeLauro threatens, under the cruelly false name of "food safety."

And now Monsanto wants its own employee, Michael Taylor back in government, this time to act with massive police power as a "food safety tsar" from inside the White House.  This is the man who forced genetically engineered rBGH on us (unlabeled, and without warning) when the Clintons placed him over "food safety" in the 90s.  HR 875 would give him immense power over what is done on every single farm in the country and massive police state power to wield over farmers and punishments to break them at will.

The following quotes show Monsanto and its biotech ilk are not "stewards" at all.  Their inhuman focus on profit has led to inhuman, insane, sickening products that require intense corruption of democracy and science institutes and media, to foist them on country after country which don't want them.  

It is our farmers who stand between us and this outrage which masquerades as science, as food, as normal business, as government.  And it is our farmers who need not only protecting but actual freeing from government intrusion, control and harm.

Vegetarians and vegans do not identify with farmers who raise animals but what is at stake here is critical for all of us.  "First they came for the Jews" is an apt reminder of what matters in standing with each other because the overwhelming bureaucratic burdens, the record requirements, the warrantless inspections, the end of farmers' markets, the criminalization of seed banking, the ten years in prison for stepping out of line in any way -- this will next be applied not to animals breaking out of fence onto a neighbor's farm, but for such things as not spraying pesticides on an organic farm to eradicate earthworms (now listed as an invasive species) because the government's "food safety tsar" has deemed it necessary. 

HR 875 is the beginning.  This time, it is about handing over control of our food supply to enhance profits of the chemical industry. This time it is aimed with ferocity at farmers who keep animals.  Next time it will be totalitarian control. 

Rosa DeLauro and Stanley Greenburg have a great deal to account for in attempting through a mislabeled bill with hidden intent to wipe out our farmers and harm all of us.  HR 875 gives Monsanto greater power and opens doors wider to the following ...
 
 
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Monsanto-s-dream-bill-HR-by-Linn-Cohen-Cole-090309-337.html




Brain -> RE: Goverment Set to Ban Public Fishing, Individual Food Production (3/10/2010 8:22:13 PM)

It sounds like you're getting desperate asking people to vote for Republicans. Republicans are worse than Democrats. Republicans are 100% corrupt, if not 100% 98%. Democrats are 65% corrupt. So if you want certitude about being able to fish in the future I strongly suggest voting for independents.




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