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RE: Ideas for service - 3/31/2006 11:08:01 PM

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I never said "yours is wrong". I said people who seek someone for that sort of thing are (in my opinion) lazy, cheap or broke.

Interesting. I've been called many things in my lifetime. I've even been broke once or twice. But never have I been called lazy or cheap for wanting what it is I seek in a slave.

Yes, Montauk, I'm one of those who seeks someone to serve in the capacity of housekeeper and/or general handyman. Right now, I'm the housekeeper and handyman, but the job is too much for one person, so I seek a second. And yes, their primary responsibility will be to help me maintain the house. However, it appears to me your view on this is rather narrow in scope, as you seem to feel no one is entitled to expect actual service from a submissive.

Any slave that would enter Master's house is obviously going to have needs that must be met. If I'm taking the time to meet that slave's needs, then that's time I'm not spending attending to Master's house. Guess whose job it's going to be to make up for that time? The other slave's.

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RE: Ideas for service - 3/31/2006 11:11:23 PM

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Hi Carolinasubbie. If you want ideas for service, carefully observe your Domme. Don't wait for him to ask or request something. Observe what he does, wants, or needs. Then provide it.

If everyday he gets tired at 3pm, spontaneously show up with a cup of coffee.
If you notice a broken appliance, fix or buy a new one.
If your Domme typically gets tense after meeting a particular client, send him a funny email
If your Domme mentions that sushi is his favorite food... take classes on how to make sushi.
Etc., etc., ad nauseam.

A good Domme will drop hints. A great sub will notice things. Good luck.

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RE: Ideas for service - 4/1/2006 12:55:49 AM

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oops... my eyes just rolled clear out of my head! Help!

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RE: Ideas for service - 4/1/2006 4:46:10 PM

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Evan

Ya gotta do what you gotta do! Enjoy! lol

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RE: Ideas for service - 4/1/2006 8:25:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: Archer

Service can be all kinds of things really, it's a matter of what the needs of the person being served are and what the skills the serving person has to offer. Keeping a house budget, keeping a file folder of freinds, boss, clients food preferences, allergies, birthdays, etc, Take a look at the various duties that any house staff members would have, you'll find lots of ideas.
Research the duties of a Butler/ Valet/ Personal Secretary/ Housekeeper, they were much more than the cleaning and such, many think of when they hear the words.

MontaukDaisy, it's about service, if you don't get it fine but please avoid the MY kink is ok your's is wrong, stuff.

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These are the type services I was trained in. As Archer said, research the duties of a butler/valet. I not only found this type of service extremely helpful to my trainer, but gratifying to me as well. Things like having the addresses and names of local businesses would be useful and cater to His/Her preferences such as diners, drycleaners, entertainment, etc.
If he wears leather, you might check out things like bootblacking & leathercare. If he enjoys tea, you might research on tea service.
There are So many ways to provide service and sometimes learning the various ways of doing such is nearly as fun!

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RE: Ideas for service - 4/2/2006 3:28:22 PM

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Just this afternoon......
A professional Mistress whith whom i have sessioned before walked me through her house showing me what She needed done.
A handyman project, washing her patio furmiture, putting tiles down in the bathroom, etc.
She had rules reagrding how She was to be addressed, how i should stand, that i should always walk behind Her.
That is me being her slave, her laborer.
i am middle aged and i can tell you i have fantasized about a moment like this since about age 9. i can't tell you how much inner peace and at the same time heart racing arousal this caused.
The floor tiles....just think....working on my knees in Her bathroom! Ahhhhh, is this a great country or what?

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RE: Ideas for service - 4/2/2006 3:53:26 PM

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Just a warning - while many people *do* like proactive service...many *don't*. Make sure your d-type is the former before finding out the hard way that they're the latter.

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ORIGINAL: Alacrity

Hi Carolinasubbie. If you want ideas for service, carefully observe your Domme. Don't wait for him to ask or request something. Observe what he does, wants, or needs. Then provide it.

If everyday he gets tired at 3pm, spontaneously show up with a cup of coffee.
If you notice a broken appliance, fix or buy a new one.
If your Domme typically gets tense after meeting a particular client, send him a funny email
If your Domme mentions that sushi is his favorite food... take classes on how to make sushi.
Etc., etc., ad nauseam.

A good Domme will drop hints. A great sub will notice things. Good luck.

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RE: Ideas for service - 4/3/2006 1:07:38 AM

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Yea, ImpGrrl brings up a really important point that I had overlooked. In my defense, part of the careful observation would determine this, but it's better to be sure...

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RE: Ideas for service - 4/3/2006 11:58:51 PM

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The best description of service I've ever seen (not being very service oriented myself) was that the submissive was the Sergant. They would be given tasks as needed, as it was now their job to figure out and complete this task. Just to make life easier. This can range from getting drinks, cleaning up toys, cleaning off my back after a cutting, getting a table to eat at, finding out where the party is, carrying things, locating people. Whatever needs done, when it needs done, competently done.

Alright, that didn't quite come out as eloquently as he put it. But the idea is there, somewhere.

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RE: Ideas for service - 4/4/2006 1:28:48 AM

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wash his car. Polish his car, hoover the smelly dirty thing out. Then give it back, valets within a inch of its life.
Mine loves this form of service.

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RE: Ideas for service - 4/4/2006 8:00:19 AM

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i have seen many subs say that they are not service-oriented, so i'm curious.....what orientation are you? what else is there other than foreseeing and providing His every need? whether it be sexually or basic physical needs (food, drink, massage, etc) or taking care of the house and household etc....
i am honestly curious what you do and what type of relationship you have....and who takes care of all of those tasks for Him?

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RE: Ideas for service - 4/4/2006 12:40:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: babyblues

i have seen many subs say that they are not service-oriented, so i'm curious.....what orientation are you? what else is there other than foreseeing and providing His every need? whether it be sexually or basic physical needs (food, drink, massage, etc) or taking care of the house and household etc....
i am honestly curious what you do and what type of relationship you have....and who takes care of all of those tasks for Him?

Submission oriented. :)
To me, submission is a primal feeling. Service, slavery, ownership, property are all high level, societal concepts. Submission is animal... if you are romantic, it's the alpha wolf asserting dominance and getting the submission they are due. I'm a bit less romantic, so I liken it to rat dominance. We keep pet rats. It's not /hard/ to assert dominance over me (I'm quite helpful, actually), and I'd hardly call it a struggle, but it's that kind of primal control.

Now there are things that are 'the dominant's due', that they have earned by virtue of asserting their dominance. Service can be one of these, but it is particularly tricky for a number of reasons.

(1) Submission is very heady. I'm lucky if I can get a drink in a cup without spilling, none the less anything resembling carpentry.
(2) When I am submissive I crave physical contact. I've done entire scene that are based around withholding of physical contact, and those can get me to cry for /far/ longer th any amount of pain. Service that accepts physical contact is easy, service that requires avoiding it is difficult.
(3) I'm in a primal, no-mind state. Most concepts aren't going to make a lot of sense to me. 'Keep track of this' I can manage. Fetching something I can manage. Managing a bunch of people into figuring out where we are going to eat? Not going to happen. I'd be confused, lost, and helpless.

Now as a note here I am not submissive 24/7. I can certainly be in a submissive state for long periods of time (days), but at some point I do need to leave, come back to myself, and interact on a plane of rough equality.

Note 2 is that even when I am not in a deeply submissive state, I can feel mildly submissive to someone and perhaps accomplish service. But it doesn't feed my submission, doesn't make it deeper, and my partners can feel that and it doesn't really feed them either.

Note 3 is that, under certain mind-altering substances, I actually become /very/ service oriented. Much more in the, I think, gay leather tradition of service being a directed role. Being given tasks, and accomplishing them as quickly and competently as possible. Dedicating oneself to service, rather than to figuring out what they want. (although certainly suggesting things is possible, but one doesn't... go off and do them. You don't leave their side unless they tell you to, what if they came up with something more important?).

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RE: Ideas for service - 4/4/2006 3:17:03 PM

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you expect someone to "take you in hand" yet you do NOT wish to do anything to make your Masters life easier? All the time you say you have been a submissive seems to have soured you.

I have a submissive who isn't even "Mine", no collar, no sexual attraction, just an occaisional Play time yet she delights in fixing meals, laundry and finding fun stuff for me at swap meets, yard sales. I understand having been a sub how important serving is to those who are into it and to NOT allow her to would be wrong. Do I pay her? Hell yeah with a flogger, a cage and a chain.

I hope one day you find the one you wish to serve and find you actually enjoy doing things for him. It is NOT unpleasant.

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RE: Ideas for service - 4/6/2006 10:01:52 AM

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The question you should ask is, What is it He wants from you? Think of your service from the perspective. If you truly wish to serve, then understand Him; His wants, His needs, His desires. And then fill those wants and needs and desires. Be the sub/slave He wants you to be. And be as good at it as you possibly can. There is no better way to serve him.

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