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Carolinasubbie -> Ideas for service (3/31/2006 3:03:08 AM)

What are some ideas for nonsexual service?  I've thought of housework, babysitting, and research....any more ideas?

Thanks!
Cs




MontaukDaisies -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 3:06:16 AM)

I'm thinkin...... it's about people being too cheap, too broke or too lazy to PAY someone to help them around the house OR to do the work (whatever it is) THEMSELVES.

What the f*ck is THAT about?




slaveladyj -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 4:37:26 AM)

I would think, cooking, keeping the house clean, laundry, there are lots of nonsexual things to keep a submissive busy.




TVMISTRESSLEXI -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 4:41:33 AM)

Of course the occasion check up on the subbies work is required. A few quick swats with a crop will set him/her straight




Archer -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 5:40:43 AM)

Service can be all kinds of things really, it's a matter of what the needs of the person being served are and what the skills the serving person has to offer. Keeping a house budget, keeping a file folder of freinds, boss, clients food preferences, allergies, birthdays, etc, Take a look at the various duties that any house staff members would have, you'll find lots of ideas.
Research the duties of a Butler/ Valet/ Personal Secretary/ Housekeeper, they were much more than the cleaning and such, many think of when they hear the words.

MontaukDaisy, it's about service, if you don't get it fine but please avoid the MY kink is ok your's is wrong, stuff.

In Leather

Archer




stef -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 5:46:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MontaukDaisies

I'm thinkin...... it's about people being too cheap, too broke or too lazy to PAY someone to help them around the house OR to do the work (whatever it is) THEMSELVES.

What the f*ck is THAT about?

It's about people who see more to serving than just being a collection of available orifices or a target.

~stef




PhoenixLM -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 5:56:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: stef

quote:


It's about people who see more to serving than just being a collection of available orifices or a target.

~stef


*Appludes*

Non sexual service can be anything that a dominant needs to be done. Assiting in donning or removal of outerwear, Polishing shoes and offering guest dry warm socks while they visit if the weather is bad. Keeping the coffee hot and fresh, refilling cups. In general just making your dominants life better. They create a safe place for us to be ourselves, in return, we create a haven of comfort and serinity for them.




ownedgirlie -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 6:02:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MontaukDaisies

I'm thinkin...... it's about people being too cheap, too broke or too lazy to PAY someone to help them around the house OR to do the work (whatever it is) THEMSELVES.

What the f*ck is THAT about?



Um......Huh??  Is it the "serve" part of servant that doesn't make sense?

To the OP:  Service is a mindset.  If everything you do is for the Dominant, you are always serving the Dominant.  Knowing his/her tastes and preferences and standards and meeting them in all you do is an example.  Whatever keeps him/her satisfied and content by making his/her life easier and more pleasant.  This could mean domestic chores, running errands, doing necessary research on things, dressing as he/she likes, learning subjects that are interesting to him/her, and staying on top of things he/she needs to take care of, among others. Improving your own knowledge, and expanding your mind is also helpful, by way of reading, self analysis, or exploring thoughts and theories that are of interest to you both.





twicehappy -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 6:15:16 AM)

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What are some ideas for nonsexual service?  I've thought of housework, babysitting, and research....any more ideas?

What ever your owners needs done or finds pleasing to have done for him/her.

Cooking, cleaning, running errands, finding that special little thing they enjoy.

Remembering the day to day items they prefer, things like their favorite shampoo, brand of soft drink. And keeping an eye on when those items need restocked or putting a fresh supply at hand.

Keeping a calendar of appointments so you are prepared and they are forewarned. For example; if there is a company picnic coming up where they need to bring a dish, have it prepared for them. Or is there a day you need to have a quick meal ready by 5 o'clock so they can be on their way by 5:30 and not need worry about grabbing fast food and rushing.

It can be little things. For example; if they use pocket hankerchiefs, embroider their initials on them. Put fresh flowers out you have grown. Basically use your own talents in ways to bring them quiet pleasure.

Learn how to do something they enjoy and do it with or for them. This also gives you a chance to grow and acquire new skills.

Take the time to do to discover those special things that make them smile.

Mostly good service comes from simply paying attention to their needs, voiced or not and quietly seeing to them.  








Wildfleurs -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 6:35:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Carolinasubbie

What are some ideas for nonsexual service?  I've thought of housework, babysitting, and research....any more ideas?

Thanks!
Cs


Rather than giving you a list of service that you can provide, because I’m sure you’ll get plenty of that I would say that you should focus on two questions in trying to find areas of non-sexual service:  What can I do to help his life run smoother? Is this something he wants/would appreciate?

There's a lot of stuff that you can do, but what is important is to make sure that those are things that your dominant wants.  One of the easy pitfalls of service is for the person providing it to do an assessment of what they think should be done and what they think would be of value.  The important equation being left out of that is what does the dominant think?  While service can be proactive I believe it has to still be guided by the dominants preferences.  So I think its important to find out what the dominant would find of value before proceeding with providing service.  

C~




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 7:16:25 AM)

This is a document I put together a couple of years ago.

The flowing are services worth learning in order to be an attractive service-oriented submissive or slave. The more you fill out your resume, the better your chances of finding an outstanding Master to serve. There’s books on all sorts of subjects at Amazon.com. (notes: Master is a gender neutral term; the references provided within are merely a beginning to your research.)  

Maid service. This is one of the most popular non-sexual services you can offer. Yeah, you might not like it, but, if you are service oriented, the feeling you get knowing you’ve pleased your Master makes it worth it!
If you’re list oriented: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1841725986/ref=pd_sim_b_5/002-5519869-5191241?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance   If you’re task oriented: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0811839850/ref=pd_sim_b_1/002-5519869-5191241?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance   (Oh, a hint: if you’re going to offer this as a service, practice on your own place first. A smart Master viewing on a web cam where the background is a disaster area will NOT believe your abilities in this service are up to par.)                 

Laundry. If you think doing laundry means gathering up whatever clothes are on the floor and throwing them in the washer is doing laundry, you have some reading to do: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0811839842/qid=1100720825/sr=2-2/ref=pd_ka_b_2_2/002-5519869-5191241  

Ironing. you'd be surprised how many can NOT do this well. However, there’s a very humorous book on the market: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0312069731/qid=1100720825/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/002-5519869-5191241  

Cooking. At least learn your Master’s favorite dishes. Everyone CAN learn to cook...for men, treat it like a tech manual. The only thing is, you MUST read directions! you can find many, many recipes on the net. Be sure to find out about allergies, diets and things that bother your Master's insides (do they have IBS, for instance?).   Beginning books: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0517221705/qid=1100721188/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-5519869-5191241?v=glance&s=books   and http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0028624513/qid=1100721188/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-5519869-5191241?v=glance&s=books.   Check out your local community college for cooking classes too.  

Pet service. Many of us have pets and enjoy them, but someone changing the kitty litter or birdcage occasionally would be great. Better if they do it without being told. Pet grooming can beneficial too. Here’s a book about dogs and cats: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0812042980/002-5519869-5191241?v=glance  

Secretary...taking notes about who said they'd do what, keeping a calendar for your Master and sorting snail mail. Also, doing the tiresome chores like thank you notes, invitations, Christmas cards and such that, in "polite society", should be hand written. Sometimes, sorting email can be an option. 

Personal Buyer. Go shopping for your Master. Get a list and money first! This can also include errands (picking up dry cleaning, mail, etc). Pizza served by you, on your knees, is SO much better than by the pizza deliverer at the door.  

Formal Ds/Ms Protocol. Learning to serve when your Master is in a formal setting or among other Masters. Things like offering drinks (hot and cold) and food unobtrusively, holding things (always watch for the coat/jacket coming off and NEVER let it hit the floor!), etc. A great deal of this will depend on you Master.   A great deal can be learned from formal table service rules. http://www.cuisinenet.com/digest/custom/etiquette/serving.shtml   More can be learned from BDSM formal protocol sites such as this one: http://www.evilmonk.org/A/manners.cfm   Remember that none of this is set in stone.  

Butler. Ok, so this one doesn’t have a book (that I could find) on Amazon. Answering the door, answering the phone (to screen calls), welcoming/serving guests. This is also where the formal dinner stuff comes in. Head Waiter/Waitress...again, for more formal occasions, usually, but knowing how to serve food with grace and beauty will catch eyes these days. This site is a humorous looking into the head waiter, but with good tips thrown in. Take notes. http://www.schonwalder.org/Menu_Salad_Silverplatter_n_Rechauds.htm Also, this might be helpful for the cooking stuff: http://www.ehow.com/list_1030.html  

Lawn care/gardening...this service isn't for everyone. But, if you like to be outdoors, we like to have the lawn mowed and pretty flowers planted and cared for by someone else, preferably.  
Lawn care: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1580624871/qid=1100722286/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/002-5519869-5191241?v=glance&s=books Gardening: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1413441114/qid=1100722354/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/002-5519869-5191241?v=glance&s=books Again, you local community college probably offers classes in gardening.  

Massage. There’s several different kinds of massage, the most popular being clinical, deep tissue and sensual. A few resources: Clinical: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0683306537/qid=1100719200/sr=2-2/ref=pd_ka_b_2_2/002-5519869-5191241; Deep Tissue: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1556433875/qid=1100719200/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/002-5519869-5191241; Sensuous: http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0394759753/ref=sib_dp_pt/002-5519869-5191241#reader-link. Better yet, take a Massage Therapist course at your local community college and become licensed.  

Reflexology and other alternate therapies. Look into alternate therapies that are pleasing even if you don’t believe they work. For example, you or your Master might not believe in reflexology, but if you learn to do it, you’ll learn how to give on hell of a foot rub! This is a good skill to have! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0762409614/qid=1100719611/sr=2-2/ref=pd_ka_b_2_2/002-5519869-5191241

Other therapies might include Aromatherapy http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0931432820/qid=1100719696/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/002-5519869-5191241 tea therapy http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/188726311X/qid=1100719719/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/002-5519869-5191241?v=glance&s=books and chi energy therapy http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1585420212/qid=1100719882/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-5519869-5191241?v=glance&s=books
You might consider herbs, vitamins and minerals, but this is a gray area since these things can interfere with prescription medications.  

Manicures and Pedicures. Most women and a lot of men like to have manicures. Even if they don’t, learning to do a good manicure will teach how to massage the hand. It can be especially handy if you can learn to do acrylic nails and such http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789302373/qid=1100719966/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/002-5519869-5191241 and http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1562538829/qid=1100720171/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/002-5519869-5191241?v=glance&s=books To really be of service, take a Nail Tech Course at you local community college.  

All these things require STUDY, both of the skill and your Master. You need to know if S/He prefers iced tea with lemon, hot tea with cream, etc. You MUST be observant. The goal is to do all these things in such a flawless manner so as NOT to be noticed. In that, a good Master WILL notice and praise accordingly.

Fire




SparklyAltoGirl -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 7:56:55 AM)

Since I am very service oriented, I spend a good deal of time doing these things. I have a key to Daddys house (we don't live together, but we do live within walking distance) and I come in at least three times a week while he is at work. On Mondays I do general straightening up, since he can make a big mess all by himself over the weekends, Wednesdays I do laundry and shopping, although only for household stuff. He hasn't given me the task of food shopping yet. Fridays I spend doing serious housework, wiping down the kitchen counters and table, dusting, and cleaning the hardwood floors. I'm always being monitored, he has a webcam set up that streams into his office computer, although obviously he is not always watching, but since I don't know when he is or isn't, I'm usually a very good girl. The one drawback to this is it's very hard to suprise him with anything, I've even resorted to moving the cam or blocking it with something so he can't see what I'm doing. On Wednesdays I will frequently leave flowers or something I picked up just for him as a surprise.

Of course, this really only works well because I don't have a full time job (..... yet!)




MHOO314 -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 8:56:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Carolinasubbie

What are some ideas for nonsexual service?  I've thought of housework, babysitting, and research....any more ideas?

Thanks!
Cs


Errands, grocery shopping, yard work, washing the car, laundry, folding clothes, cooking/serving meals, organizing closets etc.




MHOO314 -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 9:06:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MontaukDaisies

I'm thinkin...... it's about people being too cheap, too broke or too lazy to PAY someone to help them around the house OR to do the work (whatever it is) THEMSELVES.

What the f*ck is THAT about?



Service submission is a whole separate aspect to D/s in itself, it may not be for you, but it does work for others.




MontaukDaisies -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 3:10:29 PM)

Archer,

I never said "yours is wrong". I said people who seek someone for that sort of thing are (in my opinion) lazy, cheap or broke.

In a relationship? 24/7? or the equivalent? I've done the chores and the things that made my Master proud, that helped him to have an easier day-to-day life, that let him concentrate on the things that HE took care of within our relationship. I suppose I'm NOT of the mind that submission is a gift, either, since I expect (yes, expect) to be treated well and taken care of in return for the caring and warm support I give my mate. That's simply part of human nature.

Everyone has opinions, just like everyone was born with a sphincter. They all smell, in one way or another. You don't have to like what I say - nor do I have to marvel at your "wisdom".




MontaukDaisies -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 3:13:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

quote:

ORIGINAL: MontaukDaisies

I'm thinkin...... it's about people being too cheap, too broke or too lazy to PAY someone to help them around the house OR to do the work (whatever it is) THEMSELVES.

What the f*ck is THAT about?

It's about people who see more to serving than just being a collection of available orifices or a target.

~stef


A collection of orefices? That's kinda amusing! But I'm not in this for the kink and nothing more. If you care to, I replied to Archer on that very subject.




BLKSIRESwench -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 9:02:42 PM)

my own belief on service mirrors some of what has been said.  Know your Master's preferences and your own talents and marry the two.  In my l/d relationship, it is not unusual for me to make travel arrangements for Sire, whether they are for business or pleasure.  i am also very organized and skilled with various office software - so i assist Sire in organizing His business interests and trying to make His companies run smoother.  As far as housekeeping, laundry and the like, He employs others to do that and has indicated that He would continue to do so even if we were together 24/7.

For special types of service - i might learn a skill that He will enjoy.  For His birthday later this year, i am learning the Japanese tea ceremony because He loves these types of formal and refined presentations.

Also establishing service oriented rituals can be a wonderful sign of respect.  When we eat together, i wait until He nods in my direction before i begin eating.  When i leave Sire, the last thing i say is "May i continue in Your service?"  Fortunately He always says, "yes wench"




Archer -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 9:14:33 PM)

OK so closer to the point you ascribed motivations to other people that were base and self-serving without making any allowance for people that are not abusing the situation.
Using your same logic for sexual service would yield

“I’m thinking it’s about people being to lazy, broke, cheap to pay for sex.”

In both cases the assumption made is that the server isn’t getting anything in return, an assumption based on what I have to wonder?

There are people out there who are specifically looking for someone to serve, they find fulfillment in the service, and the opportunity to serve for them is reward enough.
If you doubt that then by all means take another look at the public service hours that are performed every month in this nation for nothing more than a feeling of civic mindedness and a good feeling at the end of the day.

Are there people out there who will accept that service and never even attempt to do anything in return? Sure there are but that is not the majority of the people I know in the lifestyle, and none of those I know with relationships that have stood the test of time. At the very least most Dominants will give back something even if it’s not exactly a perfect balance. And if not then there is some amount of caviat emptor that applies.

Based only on the OP, there is nothing to suggest any lack of balance. It simply asks “What are some ideas of non sexual service,” the first inference of inequality brought into the post by you. That being the inference that the dominant should be paying someone to do that as opposed to having a submissive do it for them.

You are right though you are entitled to your opinion, however I am just as entitled to challenge that opinion in the free marketplace of ideas.

In Leather
Archer




Submotive -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 10:39:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MontaukDaisies

I'm thinkin...... it's about people being too cheap, too broke or too lazy to PAY someone to help them around the house OR to do the work (whatever it is) THEMSELVES.

What the f*ck is THAT about?


For me it's about giving and loving - that's what service is about.




Submotive -> RE: Ideas for service (3/31/2006 10:44:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Carolinasubbie

What are some ideas for nonsexual service?  I've thought of housework, babysitting, and research....any more ideas?

Thanks!
Cs

Any talent, any skill, anything at all to make Master's life easier and more enjoyable. i make music cd's for Him to have in His truck while He's at work. Sometimes it's as simple as a phone call saying "i adore You."




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