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RE: Confused Sub men? - 3/17/2010 11:59:46 PM

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I agree with RavenMuse. I don't understand how many men claim to misunderstand so very much at the age they are. I cannot tell you how many have claimed to be confused as an excuse and a form of manipulation with puppy dog eyes as proof of how much they NEED a dominant for direction and all things. I simply do not hear as many female submissive's talking like this.

I can understand never having certain experiences and not knowing if they would like them or not, but the all-round-lost-little-boy isn't someone I want to put up with. 'I got scared. I was confused. I didn't know or mean to or it was your fault because you didn't tell me how to act.' Fuck that. I want an adult. Not games and control from the bottom seemingly/claimed to be, based on confusion and fear except when it comes to what they really want to do! lol They aren't afraid to play sexual, but mention more than play and they are running for the hills.

There are wonderful submissive men out there and I have had some and know many, but the majority at least online are lost, to put it mildly.

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RE: Confused Sub men? - 3/18/2010 12:19:08 AM

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my apologies Andalusite, its not that humiliation was the only form of straight male bdsm. the study found that heterosexual male bdsm seemed to have a focus of humiliation, that while flogging, cbt, and other activities were prominent within both gay and straight forms of male bdsm that there was a general humiliation theme for a majority of straight men.

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RE: Confused Sub men? - 3/18/2010 3:44:01 AM

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bunny,

There are do-me's and fucked up brats on the femsub side too... but they are not in the majority. Many femsubs are into humiliation too... that changes nothing... I know the difference between someone who's focus is serving their Dominant and someone who's only concern is their own fantasy fulfilment and getting their rocks off... any bitch in leather or pvc will do.... upto and including pestering subfemales to cover the role... because it doesn't matter about what she wants so long at it meets HIS fantasy.

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RE: Confused Sub men? - 3/23/2010 6:29:36 PM

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whoops didn't mean to post again, just trying to copy and paste for my journal

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RE: Confused Sub men? - 3/23/2010 11:20:57 PM

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why was my journal post removed?

it criticized nobody, and was really about my understanding who i am.

i think its very sad that someone would take what i write about my myself to be a threat

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RE: Confused Sub men? - 3/23/2010 11:28:42 PM

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Are you sure it was removed? Is it possible you didn't save it properly and it just wasn't posted? I ask, because I've made that mistake before and felt like a total dork for not saving it in Word first...lol.

If in fact it was removed, did any of it contain quotes from the replies you received here without giving credit to the source? Perhaps someone reported it for plagiarism?

There could be a number of reasons why the post isn't showing, from technical difficulties to TOS violations. If you are certain it was showing, then take the time to familiarize yourself with the TOS. If nothing violated the TOS, try posting it again.

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RE: Confused Sub men? - 3/24/2010 9:59:13 AM

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i know it was posted because i saw it on the recent journal entries. i dont think it violated TOS nor intellectual property rights.
i'll re-post it and see what happens

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