WyldHrt -> RE: Help...........Please (3/18/2010 2:34:46 AM)
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Because orientation sometimes affects my perception. What a drag huh? For me? Not at all, since I tend to treat people as individuals rather than defining them by their sexual orientation. For you; yeah, I can see where it would be. quote:
When someone, anyone prefers to be a nag, then let em have their hell. Had you read the OP ad hominem you would see exactly what this slave has done. The ex may well be vindictive and mean, but so is the slave, maybe more so. Actually, the slave's OP wasn't all that clear as to what, exactly, she has done other than communicating her concerns to her Master and recently delivering an ultimatum. Is she constantly nagging him? Maybe she is, and maybe she isn't. quote:
you can see by latest post that she monitored her Master, who knows how, checking his phone, maybe has some arrangement with his receptionist, I don't know and don't really care. How do you know this? It sounds to me like she is stating things he told her before the ultimatum debacle. I seriously doubt that his receptionist or anyone else not in on the conversations knows how the calls he gets from the ex begin or end. quote:
I could see from the OP that clearly she was the bitch she was yakkin about (herself) and has been for 2 1/2 yrs. What the ex is is irrelavant, he dumped her already. The slave already won, 2 years ago. What need is there for the s to extend the battle she has already won? , though she may have lost now because she did as all the whiners suggested and keep on yammering Bitch, yakkin, yammering. You've made your point of view quite clear here. Nice that you could tell right from the first post that the OP was a "bitch". quote:
Indeed. And as I have noted several times.. the M may well feed off that shit, if he does, its time to leave. Either way, someone STOPS picking at it. He's rather obviously feeding off it in some form. As for leaving, I would have been gone long ago, but I'm not the OP. quote:
She wasn't happy because she couldn't, wouldn't see what she had already and or she is basically insecure when it comes to jealousy or whatever, I don't know, but defo insecure.. Instead she went behind his back and monitored him. We have no real information on him, only her whining perception. Is he a fuck? Seems that way. In the end, it's her garden, just like your garden, my garden, it is our own garden. If your garden yields more without some jerk in it, then you toss the jerk, if you want your garden to have said jerk in it then you learn what nurtures that jerk. (assuming her whining really means he is a jerk) I certainly have no idea why she would be insecure, but it must be her fault, right? [8|] Sorry, but were I to make the mistakes that she has and get involved with someone who allowed his ex to cause issues between us with constant calls and such, I just might feel insecure, too. I already addressed the "monitoring". You have no way to know that she did any such thing. As to her "whining", I'll add that to the bitch, yakking, yammering list. As to gardens, I tend to pull the weeds, even if they have pretty flowers. quote:
By finding out what nurtures said jerk. She says she is an owned slave, he is master. All I have to go on whether I believe he is or not is irrelavant. She wants him as master, if thats the case then fucking learn how to make him grow. Simple. If she does so, who is really in charge? Pavlovian conditioning doesn't only work on submissives/ slaves, you know. Then again, I'm not one to attempt making a silk purse from a sow's ear. quote:
Whats obvious is that there is an M/s operating in her eyes. People grow into who they are, become better at what they are, when nurtured. He is likely D to some degree near as I can tell from limited info. Anyone can grow, One's innate nature isn't always obvious. For some it takes something in their lives for them to realize they are sub, or slave or dominant. Imagine that! We don't hop out of mom a with a d or s stamp on us, much less know we'd like to take it further and grow as who we are. Really. At the age of 52, and 2 1/2 years into a supposedly M/s relationship, I would hope that he would have a clue without her having to train him in the art of dominance. That said, shutting the fuck up and sucking his cock isn't likely to teach him much that he doesn't already know. quote:
What he is, isn't overtly obvious. I am not even sure she is a slave. I have said this a number of times. Read the OP ad hominem, you'll find she is talking about herself, pointing fingers outward, that really should be focused inward. That is where her garden is. Her garden is likely in serious need of some Roundup. That said, she should have seen it coming, given her Dec '08 thread. quote:
Agreed. Unfortunately if she wants to stay and her OP clearly says "WHAT CAN I DO, if anything" (meaning help me stay, help me fix this), then stfu and be the best. stop harraning him, stop monitoring him, stop anything she does regarding the ex. If he feeds off this shit, he will eventually see it ain't there to feed off anymore. Take his silly 'jealousy toy' away from him and see how he reacts. No matter how you look at it and seriously if you don't see this, well ... here goes. For 2 1/2 yrs the bitching and crap hasn't changed a thing. It doesn't work, 2 1/2 yrs of proof, seriously, stfu, try it, she may like the results. Again with the assumptions, but fine. If she truly wants to stay, she will. If he gets off on this shit (which he apparently does), her attempts to ignore it and become Stepford wife happy will result in nothing more than upping his game to get the reaction he wants. quote:
I see two of them in the OP... two major bitches and one guy who feeds off it. Just saying. And yet, in one 'example', you referred to a "bitch" sucking your cock and licking your balls to make you happy.... yet she is still a "bitch". Nice.
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