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RE: Financial Domination - 3/17/2010 7:18:42 PM

MissArialandre

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Alright this is my first post on the site but it feels needed so let me address a few things. First off, I am a financial Domme. Yes I am young, but no Rochsub, you will not find pictures of me in a bikini, fingering the camera with headlines that say things like "Pay we worm". Also I know many financial Dommes that are into their 40's so it is not just scantilly clad young women running around scamming boys out of their money.

In financial domination giving money or gifts to a Domme is not "Paying" her. She is not a serviceman. Think of money as energy. The more money you have the more you can do in this world for the most part right? So by giving money to your Mistress/Goddess/etc you are giving her your energy. You are giving up something that is seen as one of the most valuable things in this world to the person that means the most to you so that she can enjoy her life more.

Of course there are different types of financial domination as well. Some people are into blackmail, where a sub/slave gives the Domme very personal information about themselves as well as access to things like their email account and contact lists and the boy then gives the money to the domme in order to keep the information safe. Or some Dommes have specialized subs/slaves. A boy/girl may be responsible for paying certain bills every month or buying shoes, or lingerie, etc.

Most of the TRUE financial Dommes that I know are about being treated with the complete and utter respect and devotion in the way they deserve. To us things like, money, gifts and being spoilt are not dirty words. As Dommes is it not our right to be treated and live our lives in whichever way we ultimately dream it to be?

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/17/2010 7:46:13 PM

Rochsub2009

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissArialandre

Yes I am young, but no Rochsub, you will not find pictures of me in a bikini, fingering the camera with headlines that say things like "Pay we worm". Also I know many financial Dommes that are into their 40's so it is not just scantilly clad young women running around scamming boys out of their money.

Welcome to the board. It's good to see that this topic drew you in.

What you described it quite right about the type of young financial Domme that i was describing. They ALMOST ALWAYS are giving their middle fingers to the camera.

i do realize that not all of them are in their 20's. But i was speaking more to the stereotypical ones who are as we both described.

Frankly, i don't have a problem with financial dommes. Like i said, i am not going to judge anybody else's kink.

i realize that some people get off on being dominated by a financial domme. How is that any different than me preferring a female-led relationship? To each his own.

i know that there are "real" financial dommes. sounds like you may be one of them. Unfortunately, many of the scammers give them a bad name.

Once again, welcome to the board.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/17/2010 9:07:10 PM

BeachMystress

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I have total financial domination over my sub. I decide where the pay check goes. Period, Amen. Of course my sub is my husband... I can't imagine bothering with the finances of someone with whom I wasn't in a committed relationship. In Financial Domination you oversee everything from the 401k to medical insurance and allowances.

These days though, most use it to say.. hey shumuck, I don't want to call myself a pro, but you're gonna pay me anyways! Go for women who are honest about being Pro rather than using the "tribute" or "financial domme" names. Communication is key in BDSM and if they can't be clear about expecting money for play, what else will they fail to communicate?

Just my lil 2 cents!

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/18/2010 7:40:35 AM

Rochsub2009

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

i can provide bikini pics if you like.

*ahem*
I like...

i was looking for bikini pics to send you, VC. Then i started thinking about it and realized that it probably wouldn't be a good idea.

If you saw me in a bikini, you'd probably get overly excited. Your blood pressure would probably exceed normal human standards (yes, i'm THAT hot), and then the paramedics would have to be called to rush you to the emergency room.

i care about you far too much to put you through that type of drama.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/18/2010 8:07:33 AM

PeonForHer

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Any time I've seen 'financial domination' defined on these boards, it's been done in a different way. One of the reasons for this is that whenever the matters of money and relationships are mixed, the inevitable result is a proliferation of euphemisms and BS in general.

There's no way round it: anyone who proposes a relationship involving 'financial domination' needs to be asked exactly what he/she personally means by that phrase. If the reply isn't given clearly and willingly - then, I'd say, it's run-a-mile time.

Heh. I'd particularly beware of the 'I'm offended and you're stupid and ignorant for not knowing' line. It's the classic bluster of a con-artist who's knows that he or she is in danger of being caught out.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/18/2010 8:37:13 AM

Rochsub2009

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ORIGINAL: MsHValentine

A man likes being used by a young, beautiful woman who uses her looks and charm to get him to pay her money. What's the benefit? The attention of the pretty girl he never got while in high school and the humiliation of being used. It arouses him. Instead of hating her for her beauty and charms, he accepts the female power she holds over him and gives in to it, so to speak.

Well stated MsHValentine. That is one of the best descriptions of financial domination that i have come across. i think you nailed it.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/18/2010 8:37:50 AM

Andalusite

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matterb50, I don't think there are any universal answers, other than whatever you feel comfortable paying for sessions, or for her attention, if that is what you want. Personally, I feel that anyone who straight up asks for money or barter for indulging someone's kink (financial or otherwise) is a professional. Back when I was looking, I was uninterested in anyone who was currently involved with a pro, or who had an extensive history with them. I felt it developed a very poor mindset toward submission.

BeachMystress, my former submissive and I used "financial domination" in a similar way - he put my name on his account, he asked me to approve any major purchases, and I sometimes had him wait for things he wanted but didn't need, for a paycheck or two. He also contributed to household expenses while we were living together (we were together for 5 years).

Peon, when I was looking, I didn't use the term "financial domination," but I did discuss with my Master whether that was an are of my life in which he expected to exert control. None of the submissive men I met got to the point where it would have come up. If we had clicked well enough to pursue a relationship, I probably would have discussed it a bit, as part of figuring out expectations, boundaries and limits.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/18/2010 8:52:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: Andalusite

Peon, when I was looking, I didn't use the term "financial domination," but I did discuss with my Master whether that was an are of my life in which he expected to exert control. None of the submissive men I met got to the point where it would have come up. If we had clicked well enough to pursue a relationship, I probably would have discussed it a bit, as part of figuring out expectations, boundaries and limits.

If you're talking about financial domination in the sense that MsHValentine uses the term, Anda - then I can see it could be beneficial (and possibly even quite a lot of fun) to both parties. But, natch, it'd require a relationship that already involves a great deal of trust.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/18/2010 9:12:00 AM

matterb50

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I'll pass on the bikini pictures!! Thanks for your comments!!

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/18/2010 9:15:05 AM

matterb50

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I just turned down the pictures so you will make him a happy man!

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/18/2010 9:17:31 AM

matterb50

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Very good point. I like it!

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/18/2010 9:55:47 AM

Rochsub2009

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ORIGINAL: matterb50

I just turned down the pictures so you will make him a happy man!

Matterb50,
You may want to try using the quote button when you reply to someone. Include the part of their message that you are responding to. That makes it a little easier for us to figure out who and what you are responding to.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/18/2010 9:39:06 PM

VaguelyCurious

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

i was looking for bikini pics to send you, VC. Then i started thinking about it and realized that it probably wouldn't be a good idea.

If you saw me in a bikini, you'd probably get overly excited. Your blood pressure would probably exceed normal human standards (yes, i'm THAT hot), and then the paramedics would have to be called to rush you to the emergency room.

i care about you far too much to put you through that type of drama.

See, I was going to not respond to this because I didn't want to disrupt the thread, but seeing as how the OP has joined in...

[hijack]
Rochsub, thankyou for being so caring about my welfare-you are too kind.
No, really, too kind. Stop making excuses and post them pics, buster!

(Only teasing-if you feel you've got something to be ashamed of then I won't force you to reveal yourself. But know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so there is no need for your random protestations about my health-we already think you're beautiful inside...)

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/19/2010 6:03:43 AM

Rochsub2009

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

if you feel you've got something to be ashamed of then I won't force you to reveal yourself. But know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so there is no need for your random protestations about my health-we already think you're beautiful inside...)

Darn! You've figured me out.

Okay, i admit it. i don't like the way i look in a bikini. The bikini tops always make my breast look small. In fact, i look completely flat-chested. Also, the bikini bottoms make my butt look fat.

i'm glad You think i'm beautiful on the inside, because i feel so inadequate on the outside. My male body just can't seem to fill out a bikini like the female form does.

i think i'm going to go cry now.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/19/2010 6:17:35 AM

VaguelyCurious

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

Darn! You've figured me out.

Okay, i admit it. i don't like the way i look in a bikini. The bikini tops always make my breast look small. In fact, i look completely flat-chested. Also, the bikini bottoms make my butt look fat.

i'm glad You think i'm beautiful on the inside, because i feel so inadequate on the outside. My male body just can't seem to fill out a bikini like the female form does.

i think i'm going to go cry now.

But it's ok to be flat-chested and generously-bottomed! Be proud of yourself, Rochsub! Dry your tears, put on that string bikini and strut like the man-diva we all know you are!

Or borrow Domi's showgirl outfit...

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/19/2010 7:40:47 AM

matterb50

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An expert speaks so I am listening. Since you are a financial domme, is this paid weekly, monthly? Is this over and above a tribute for a session? Am anxiously awaiting your reply.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/19/2010 7:53:20 AM

Lockit

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matterb50, do I detect a personal interest in financial domination in you? If you feel as you do in your agreeing with another poster in that it isn't something you really are interested in and yet you keep asking what is common in the practice of it, do you have an interest in it more than what you are saying in your second post?

Your second post led me to believe that you really weren't interested in it and with the answers given, you are still asking. What is common and typical is just about anything goes. Everyone is different. What is important is your role in it, not the means of other people. What are you willing to do, give, support and take part in and what do you expect out of it?

So the questions are questions you need to ask yourself. If you are asking for a dollar amount and how often... we can't answer that. Since you have been talking to someone who has brought it up, she would be the one to ask.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/19/2010 8:00:39 AM

domiguy

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissArialandre

In financial domination giving money or gifts to a Domme is not "Paying" her. She is not a serviceman. Think of money as energy. The more money you have the more you can do in this world for the most part right? So by giving money to your Mistress/Goddess/etc you are giving her your energy. You are giving up something that is seen as one of the most valuable things in this world to the person that means the most to you so that she can enjoy her life more.

Of course there are different types of financial domination as well. Some people are into blackmail, where a sub/slave gives the Domme very personal information about themselves as well as access to things like their email account and contact lists and the boy then gives the money to the domme in order to keep the information safe. Or some Dommes have specialized subs/slaves. A boy/girl may be responsible for paying certain bills every month or buying shoes, or lingerie, etc.

Most of the TRUE financial Dommes that I know are about being treated with the complete and utter respect and devotion in the way they deserve. To us things like, money, gifts and being spoilt are not dirty words. As Dommes is it not our right to be treated and live our lives in whichever way we ultimately dream it to be?

It's not energy it is your money....And these women want it because they don't have enough of their own. They could give a flying fuck about your "energy." They just want to keep on their own lights.

They want to "dream" of a lifestyle but have no intention of actually working to gain it.

Poor little male subbies.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/19/2010 8:12:49 AM

MsHValentine

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quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissArialandre

In financial domination giving money or gifts to a Domme is not "Paying" her. She is not a serviceman. Think of money as energy. The more money you have the more you can do in this world for the most part right? So by giving money to your Mistress/Goddess/etc you are giving her your energy. You are giving up something that is seen as one of the most valuable things in this world to the person that means the most to you so that she can enjoy her life more.

Of course there are different types of financial domination as well. Some people are into blackmail, where a sub/slave gives the Domme very personal information about themselves as well as access to things like their email account and contact lists and the boy then gives the money to the domme in order to keep the information safe. Or some Dommes have specialized subs/slaves. A boy/girl may be responsible for paying certain bills every month or buying shoes, or lingerie, etc.

Most of the TRUE financial Dommes that I know are about being treated with the complete and utter respect and devotion in the way they deserve. To us things like, money, gifts and being spoilt are not dirty words. As Dommes is it not our right to be treated and live our lives in whichever way we ultimately dream it to be?

It's not energy it is your money....And these women want it because they don't have enough of their own. They could give a flying fuck about your "energy." They just want to keep on their own lights.

They want to "dream" of a lifestyle but have no intention of actually working to gain it.

Poor little male subbies.

It is your money the financial dommes want ... and you want them to have it too. It arouses you to be used. Who are we to judge what two consenting adults do. These Women want your money, because like all people, the more money they gain, the better they feel. Financial dommes are playing a game, a game you want to play too. You don't know what type of life they live off- line, unless you ask, you can only assume.

Cheers to the boys finding a compatible player and getting their rocks off doing what they want.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/19/2010 8:25:29 AM

Andalusite

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Peon, no, that wouldn't work for me at all. Back when I was looking, if a guy offered to pay me for a session, or as a way of getting humiliated, I got quite offended that he was attempting to turn me into a pro, that he thought of me that way. One guy wanted to do online shopping for me in exchange for cyberdomination - he was one of the very few guys I felt the need to actually block, and my response was quite heated. If that is what a man wants, nothing wrong with it, but he should stick to the ladies who *want* pay-for-play.

I might be amenable to a roleplaying scene with me as the hot cheerleader or whatever making fun of and then accepting him, but I wouldn't be interested in a steady diet of that sort of thing.

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