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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/21/2010 1:10:40 AM   
Amalda


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I just love the fact that you mention people not being able to read newspapers... newspapers all over the world are not being able to make people to buy them because of internet. From the WSJ to Prada to O Globo, Le Monde... Mr Murdoch had spend long meetings and billions figuring out how to capitalize, unified, control, induce and seduce NewsCorp audience on internet.

I'm not familiar with Turkey anchor babies in the US but what I see, from a personal point of view, left out from migration discussions are the details, the human histories and family steps that take from a geographical point to another.

I have no claim to the four states, California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, more than 50 per cent, 51 per cent of Mexican territory, lost from 1845 to 1870, roughly. I wonder how can we pretend that a history and geography of that magnitude can be forgoten. It has been only in the last 20 years that the US has enforced heavy territorial and legal restrictions to cross its border. With two civil wars in between, first the American and then the Mexican. On top of that there was a tradition up until the 60's that allow Mexicans to work legally in the US, some of those legal treates still in force.

My interest in posting in this threat arises from the fact that we tend to see numbers but not the human stories behind them and even more important, we get a tunnel vision that prevent us from realizing that human history is build over immigration.

During the 1930's and 40's Mexico was a refuge for Europeans: Spaniars from their civil war like Max Aub, lefty and jews Germans like Marianna Frenk, British like Leonora Carrington.
A decade later the Beat generation, Kerouac http://coa.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/23/2/209  Years later one after another militar dictatorships, most of them supported by the McCarthysm  and postMc Arthysm policies make of Mexico one of the prefered refuges, Chileniean, Argentinian, Uruguaian, Guatemaltean, Brazilian etc and lately, the Argentinian financial 'Corralito'.

Yet the reality of immigrations is not written in capitals and big historic facts as in the personal and family decisions. My mom Grandfather was a Cornish minner, barely twenty years old was offered to be a Mine Capitan in a far away land in Mexico, less than twenty years and 7 children later, his feet step onto an oxidezed nail and died of gangrena in a mountain Mexican town. His tumb, barely noticiable is still there in a cementery called El Cementerio de los Ingleses.

When my father was a 'hottie' in his twenties, involved somehow in showbusiness and Mexico was a fashionable destination for a Jet Set hungry for Acapulco, a nice 'gringa' set her eyes on him. A summer later my oldest half brother was born in Houston.

I don't want to bore you with personal generations soap box stories. What I want to say is that immigration has been a human need and tradition. Few know about the Northamerican 'colonies' all along Mexico Cortes Sea Cost. Hundreds of Arizonians spend their retired years there without being attacked at all.

Immigrations stories seem to be in the front pages of newspapers all over the world. Mexico has them about Chinese and other nationalities, US about Mexicans and almost every other nationality, UK about East European, Asians, Middle Asians, Africans...

Every culture and nation wants to hold tight to a mythical begining of purity and unity. Before the Aztecs arrived to Mexico's City valley in the 1300 the nahuatl world was a 'paradise' of nahuatlism. The Aztecs were rude, rough, imperialistic, voracious, ignorant... Nevertheless history and prehistory is a sucession of migrations even more now that our minds, bodies and hearts, internet-travel before our bodies catch up.

Disclaimer: I've worked for Mexican companies in two different countries. My favorite one is not the US and not European. I never tried to migrate, legally or illegally anywhere, lack of creativity or ambition probably and enjoy and suffer the pleasures and the irritations of a global world as anyone else.

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/21/2010 9:24:50 PM   
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Buah, did I kill this discussion?

Bad Amalda  

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/21/2010 10:08:01 PM   
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Nah Amalda it was just a shitty thread in the first place...."anchor babies"like that is an actual problem...lol.Combine that with the momentous events taking place in the Capitol today...which is being discussed in about 6 different threads...and Popeyes favorite talking point didn't really have any legs.
Most of us here like when beautiful woman show up(at least I do...lol) so no,it wasn't you.Welcome to the boards I hope you enjoy your time here and somehow manage to put up with all of us ;-)

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 8:16:58 AM   
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quote:

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Nah Amalda it was just a shitty thread in the first place...."anchor babies"like that is an actual problem...lol.Combine that with the momentous events taking place in the Capitol today...which is being discussed in about 6 different threads...and Popeyes favorite talking point didn't really have any legs.
Most of us here like when beautiful woman show up(at least I do...lol) so no,it wasn't you.Welcome to the boards I hope you enjoy your time here and somehow manage to put up with all of us ;-)


Mike, or maybe I was just interested in hearing other people's opinions on this topic?

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 8:24:05 AM   
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Oh come on Popeye....as shots go that was mild indeed...I was just trying to assure the new poster that she did not kill your oh so interesting thread...and hey,how come you never aknowledged just how funny that post was on the girl scout thread....yanno where I warned you about the roving immigrants dropping their anchor babies and than stealing your girl scout cookies.....now that left me feeling unappreciated

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 8:27:31 AM   
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Well you did a fine job Mike, I see Amalda took her picture down after your last comment and replaced it with a stuffed animal!
Thanks a lot!

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 8:28:26 AM   
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Fuck you Pops,I'm unfriending you

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 9:06:52 AM   
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quote:

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Fuck you Pops,I'm unfriending you


Well gee Mike, and I was going to start an illegal alien thread for you about the 100,000 illegals marching for "amnesty" in Washington yesterday only they kinda didn't show up!
The DCPD estimated only 12-15 thousand.

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 9:11:53 AM   
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You figure the rest were off getting pregnant so as to have some of them thar "anchor babies"?

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 9:28:50 AM   
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It is both of your fault for chasing that totally hawt thang away....shame on both of you.
PLEASE COME BACK AMALDA AND BRING SOME NAKE (nake being the present tense of naked)PICTURES WITH YOU

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 9:31:06 AM   
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It is both of your fault for chasing that totally hawt thang away....shame on both of you.
PLEASE COME BACK AMALDA AND BRING SOME NAKE (nake being the present tense of naked)PICTURES WITH YOU



Ugh way to be a douche.

"Hi there person who wrote a thoughtful post, I don't want to put the effort into commenting on it but can I see you naked?"

Fuckhead.

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 9:37:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Elisabella


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

It is both of your fault for chasing that totally hawt thang away....shame on both of you.
PLEASE COME BACK AMALDA AND BRING SOME NAKE (nake being the present tense of naked)PICTURES WITH YOU



Ugh way to be a douche.

"Hi there person who wrote a thoughtful post, I don't want to put the effort into commenting on it but can I see you naked?"

Fuckhead.
I just knew I liked you.....
p.s. Thompson you have mail

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 10:01:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Elisabella


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

It is both of your fault for chasing that totally hawt thang away....shame on both of you.
PLEASE COME BACK AMALDA AND BRING SOME NAKE (nake being the present tense of naked)PICTURES WITH YOU



Ugh way to be a douche.

"Hi there person who wrote a thoughtful post, I don't want to put the effort into commenting on it but can I see you naked?"

Fuckhead.


You're cute and I like you because of that.

 


Wasn't this your post to a George Cloony look alike who made some rather disparaging remarks about women's rights?
If it is OK for you to be a brazen slut then it should be OK for me also

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 10:03:31 AM   
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Wasn't this your post to a George Cloony look alike who made some rather disparaging remarks about women's rights?
If it is OK for you to be a brazen slut then it should be OK for me also



Because "cute" is the same as "naked" Thinking someone has a nice smile is a lot less sexual than asking to see their naked body. So there's only one slut here and it's not me.

However if Amalda finds your comment to be a compliment it's none of my business.

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 10:19:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Elisabella


quote:

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Wasn't this your post to a George Cloony look alike who made some rather disparaging remarks about women's rights?
If it is OK for you to be a brazen slut then it should be OK for me also



Because "cute" is the same as "naked" Thinking someone has a nice smile is a lot less sexual than asking to see their naked body. So there's only one slut here and it's not me.


When taken in the context of the discussion it shows you to be at least as slutty as me. 
Embrace your inner slut it will set you free and bring a smile to  both of your lips.



However if Amalda finds your comment to be a compliment it's none of my business.
It would not be unfair if you were to post like wise

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 10:34:00 AM   
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Hey guys relax...I'm a slut,it hasn't done me any harm

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 1:00:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Elisabella


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

It is both of your fault for chasing that totally hawt thang away....shame on both of you.
PLEASE COME BACK AMALDA AND BRING SOME NAKE (nake being the present tense of naked)PICTURES WITH YOU



Ugh way to be a douche.

"Hi there person who wrote a thoughtful post, I don't want to put the effort into commenting on it but can I see you naked?"

Fuckhead.



Elisabella, I'll bet Thompson has PLENTY of "cock pics" for you!

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 7:02:46 PM   
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Elisabella, I'll bet Thompson has PLENTY of "cock pics" for you!

Popeye I have told you several times I am not interested in exchanging pics with you.

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 7:34:12 PM   
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Dude, what the fuck? People need to calm down.

This nation was founded on the concept of liberty. Hello, that means freedom to do things you want, as long as it is within the letter of the law, and doesn't hurt anyone. If these people are paying to have their children here, why is it such a problem? Tourist trade. Nuff said. While they are here, they will be spending money. Money here. Isn't this a good thing?

Now that isn't to say the taking advantage of the system is good, because it isn't. So, how about that these anchor babies have to go back home with mommy and daddy, and when they are legal to come back, let them come back? They can't sponsor anyone until a certain age. If they leave the kid here, then they should lose their parental rights.

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RE: Having U.S. "anchor babies" is a business! - 3/22/2010 8:54:59 PM   
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Now doesn't that seem reasonable Pops.....good luck with getting thru to him Sanquinarian

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