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Aylee -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (3/24/2010 8:26:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

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MusicMystery was asking me for the correct way to do things with his s-type.


Cool! What did you tell him, or do I have to wait til next week when I go down there?



She assured me there was no such thing as beating a slave too hard.....

[:D]



That and to make sure you have an epi pen handy for that supposed "allergic reaction" she keeps talking about.  [8|]  Anaphylactic shock is no fun. 



Andalusite -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (3/24/2010 8:29:03 PM)

Hey, I'm not trying to judge your partner, but yeah, I did think poorly of men who asked that specific thing of me, or if they asked for something else sexual, like what MusicMystery described. As I mentioned in a previous post, that could be because the only people who asked it *did* do it in a HNG way. I wouldn't continue contact with someone who sent me a cock shot before the first date, either. [;)] Anyway, since I *have* actually turned down dates over this issue, I have pretty strong feelings about it.



lovingpet -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (3/24/2010 8:34:34 PM)

I know you aren't sweetie.  I just don't think it is quite so black and white.  Like I said, I have been asked the same by other people and chose not to meet them at all.  I know what you mean.  There are people I wouldn't come to meet without a coat on much less without bra and panties.  He simply got lucky..... or sumfin!  [&:]

lovingpet  



zephyroftheNorth -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (3/25/2010 3:09:06 AM)

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That and to make sure you have an epi pen handy for that supposed "allergic reaction" she keeps talking about. Anaphylactic shock is no fun.


TRAITOR! [>:]



Chastener -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (3/25/2010 1:23:04 PM)

I don't why a Dom would want a woman to wear no bra, no panties: The control would be in undressing her, removing her bra, taking down (or ordering her to take down) her pants.  I rather like the layers of clothing to remove and feeling it gives to a woman as they are stripped away.



Aylee -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (3/25/2010 2:26:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Chastener

I don't why a Dom would want a woman to wear no bra, no panties: The control would be in undressing her, removing her bra, taking down (or ordering her to take down) her pants.  I rather like the layers of clothing to remove and feeling it gives to a woman as they are stripped away.


But they get so pissy in Starbucks if you do that.  [8|]



thornhappy -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (3/25/2010 6:27:06 PM)

They got no sense of humor in them Starbucks.

Especially the ones in Terminal C at O'Hare.



Andalusite -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (3/25/2010 7:41:05 PM)

*shrugs* If I actively disliked or distrusted someone, I wouldn't meet with them in the first place! Anyway, about the HNG thing - that's how it would make me react, but I realise it's a subjective truth, not universal. I think the whole idea of eating escargot or calamari is disgusting, but there are lots of people who like them. Just because I would respond that way doesn't mean that everyone else will!



Frostbearr -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (3/25/2010 8:27:00 PM)

As a Dom I would not have them in anything but what they felt comfortable in. I have talked before hand in what some things i would do as a Dom but for that first time, comfort. To me, it is important for the sub to know there is respect and that she can feel safe.



Sirtomypet -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (3/25/2010 9:41:24 PM)

I have enjoyed reading this thread through...well, perhaps with the exception of the beagle episode...but one thing is really bothering me and it has come up several times.  Who sincerely thinks that a woman going out on any kind of date or meet without bra and/or panties is asking directly for sex, with consent or not?



DesFIP -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (3/26/2010 3:58:02 AM)

Lots of guys do but they wouldn't respond here. If the woman is so compliant to a man she's never met, has no idea if she likes or not, yet she's still willing to do as told by some absolute stranger, then why wouldn't some man assume all she wanted was easy sex. Just like him.



lucylucy -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (3/26/2010 8:18:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sirtomypet
I have enjoyed reading this thread through...well, perhaps with the exception of the beagle episode...but one thing is really bothering me and it has come up several times.  Who sincerely thinks that a woman going out on any kind of date or meet without bra and/or panties is asking directly for sex, with consent or not?

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP
Lots of guys do but they wouldn't respond here. If the woman is so compliant to a man she's never met, has no idea if she likes or not, yet she's still willing to do as told by some absolute stranger, then why wouldn't some man assume all she wanted was easy sex. Just like him.

DesFIP, I really have a problem with the assumption that this happens only in situations where the woman "has no idea if she likes him" and that "he's an absolute stranger." Yes, many people, like Aqua, have said that they like to meet someone pretty quickly, and so in a case like that, the man is close to a stranger. But others, like me, have said that we actually get to know someone fairly well by phone, email, etc. before meeting. Sure, there's a chance the guy is a "fake," but generally, he's not, and so by the time I (or someone else who dates like I do) meet the guy, he's not a stranger and I already know I like him. Whether or not there's a physical attraction is a big question that only the face-to-face meeting can answer, but to say he's a complete stranger and I have no idea if I like him or not is way off base.

Sirtomypet, I don't get the assumption that no bra/panties=easy, either. When I was in high school, it was big boobs=easy. Now I guess it's no bra/panties=easy. Yes, I get that if you go no bra/panties because the man told you to you're already showing that you're submissive, but doesn't he already know that?



Sirtomypet -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (3/26/2010 9:28:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Lots of guys do but they wouldn't respond here. If the woman is so compliant to a man she's never met, has no idea if she likes or not, yet she's still willing to do as told by some absolute stranger, then why wouldn't some man assume all she wanted was easy sex. Just like him.

Because no means no...even if she showed up naked.  Sorry, thinking she is easy is just a cop out for shallow and irresponsible.  So is finding it to be acceptable behavior.




switch2please -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (3/27/2010 12:57:43 PM)

Sirtomypet: agreed!
Deciding what is 'safe, sane, and consensual' is determined through negotiation, and you can't really say 'yes' unless 'no' is also a viable option.



dragon200070 -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (3/27/2010 5:20:00 PM)

I'm with you. The first meeting should be much like a vanilla meeting. You just want to see if the chemistry and compatability are there. No action should be planned. You need to build up trust and respect.

I suspect that demands for no panties and bras come from inexperienced Doms or predators. An experienced Dom will be concerned with compatability and trust. They will be taking their time in a new relationship. They will never move forward untill they sense or hear that you trust them.

My friends tell me that there are many poseurs and fakes out there posing as Doms. This surely complicates the search for a partner.

Good Luck,
Jeff



sunshinemiss -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (3/27/2010 5:25:42 PM)

Now that is just poppy cock.

I've not read the thread - not even the OP, but I saw this on the header up there. That nasty word "should" tut tut.

Not everything is an equation, and I'd venture to say that most of us have in fact shown up after having followed some instruction or other.

And by the way, some compatability and trust can be formed in the beginning... even before meeting. Heck that's how I know if I want to meet this dude... there is some compatibility and I trust that I have at least a modicum of safety in the meeting.

In the end, as always, your best tool in life is your gut.



BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (4/1/2010 1:13:09 PM)

Never a bra and pantys only when wearing tight leans.. thats with my own until you are mine you can go naked for all I care..B



Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (4/1/2010 1:23:42 PM)

Why not, It's not like any one can see through your clothing or automatically have a no undergarment sensor in their head that goes off  and alerts them when someone with no undies is anywhere nearby. Nobody will even be able to tell if you're not wearing underwear if your clothing isn't sheer or clingy, or the sort of clothing to be that obvious.

I fully agree with the statement though of not expecting any submission from someone, until that's been agreed on though.
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ORIGINAL: GraciousLady



No. Just no. I do not ask potential subs to do such things until they have agreed to submit. I only require them to act politely and to dress correctly. No undergarmets are not acceptable in Starbucks.



Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (4/1/2010 2:19:48 PM)

For me, it's not about fear, But that I simply have no interest in trying to please someone I am just meeting and haven't even decided if there's any real life chemistry there. First meetings, to me are largely and by far to get to know them in person face to face, not to start showing signs or potential I will submit to his whims.
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ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven




Honestly, to me physical submission really just isn't that big a deal - i don't know why women create so much drama and fear over something that really can be so pleasing to a potential D-type. They don't - they just want to see if you can take that leap of faith and trust and begin something potentially meaningful with them. And for me, that potential is worth much more than not wearing a bra or panties. [;)]





Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: no bra, no panties ! (4/1/2010 2:31:24 PM)

Not wearing a bra aint sexy to me. I am a 48 DDD And sometimes I even have to go up to a 50,C and these boobs flopping around loose is visible, and means I have to wear baggy shirts, to hide the fact I am running around loose. Anything nice, or pretty or form fitting, which is what I would wear for a first meeting, is not going to work braless.  Not to mention such large breasts will quickly have sweat pooling under them and start to smell , and that aint sexy to me either.

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ORIGINAL: lucylucy

it's a date, for crying out loud. What's wrong with being a little sexy?




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