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Level -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 1:30:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Oh... also the Who and the Kinks!

I read Churchills biography too


Don't forget Benny Hill!

Aneirin, I'm not sure why there isn't a lot of American participation on Brit-topic threads. Probably to a degree there IS a lack of knowledge or interest from many, as you guessed.

I did used to watch your Parliement, on C-Span on occasion.

Do all Brits either live in fabulous London, grimy Birmingham, or in cottages? [:D]




DarlingSavage -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 1:30:16 PM)

I loved Red Dwarf! I can't stand American Idol or Lost, though.




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 1:38:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

American TV has shown me diversity from the idealistic point of view mostly in prime time family sitcoms and dramas on the mainstream networks - ABC, NBC, CBS and FOX, and the highly provocative and critical reflections such as what you'll see on HBO, Showtime.

As for Brits, I see a variety as well. Brit series that I watched in part or in full are:
- Monty Python's Flying Circus
- Fawlty Towers
- Red Dwarf
- Absolutely Fabulous
- Bad Girls
- Hotel Babylon
- Life on Mars
- Little Britain
- The Office

As for films, the list is too long. I tend to prefer Brit films to American ones in general.

My counter question is can anyone name a Canadian show ;-)

- LA



*gasps* You forgot Cracker! How could you, I loooved Cracker, I cried when it was cancelled. Bad Lady A, bad, bad Lady A [>:]




NorthernGent -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 1:53:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: hlen5

In the US we pretend there is no class system. In Britain, they're more up front about it (there is a theory that it's easier to move up over here than over there).



I'd imagine there is a difference.......

Opinions are formed here on your accent. Seriously. It can be the difference between being offered a job or otherwise.

Were a tramp to walk into a shop here with a middle class accent - he'd get more respect than a bloke carrying a wheel barrow full of money but speaking with a working class accent.

People are absolutely obsessed with class here - it's all encompassing - and that includes the working class (obsessed with buying designer clothes and branded goods on credit in an attempt to appear middle class).

In terms of moving up - I have a strong North East working class accent - you probably wouldn't be able to understand me - there are plenty in this country who struggle to make sense of the accent. Anyway - it hasn't prevented me from moving into a middle class profession and income bracket - but my accent means that regardless of my merits I could never in a million years be Prime Minister. We did have a Prime Minister from a Northern working class background once - Harold Wilson - who spoke with a Yorkshire working class accent and dressed like a working man - the establishment wanted him out and bugged his phones in an attempt to discredit him because he wasn't one of them (the establishment felt he was an embarrassment due to his background and not speaking with the required accent - accent is a fair indicator of your social class in this country).

In the US - I'd imagine money talks. It means nothing in this country in certain situations. You could be bankrupt here but speak with a certain accent - an upper-middle class accent - and it will open doors for you.




LafayetteLady -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 2:18:24 PM)

I actually don't get the BBC channel in my area, so I have no idea about any British shows. Thinking that the American shows really show anything about what Americans are like is a mistake. They don't represent reality at all. The family dramas aren't representative of how real families function, the legal shows don't show how a case really is put together and the medical dramas don't really portray how working in the medical field is.

If one was trying to use fictional television drama as a means to learn about American culture, they would be found to be sorely lacking in knowledge of reality.




LadyAngelika -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 2:53:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth
*gasps* You forgot Cracker! How could you, I loooved Cracker, I cried when it was cancelled. Bad Lady A, bad, bad Lady A [>:]



Maybe because I don't know Cracker? And I already know I'm bad. But when I'm bad, I'm better, remember?

- LA




Aneirin -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 3:01:23 PM)

The only US show I tend to watch now are NCIS because of Abby and Star Trek because of Marina Sirtis.




windchymes -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 3:01:44 PM)

The men are like Mr. Bean and drive around in tiny little cars.  Women all grow up to become nannies and it's good luck to shake the hand of a chimney sweep.




DomMeinCT -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 3:18:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

We here in Britain have been fed a steady diet of US tv most of our lives, so with that most Brits who watch tv have an idea of Americans are like, your attitudes, politics, way of life and traditions, some of which have come to influence our own, we also know much of your landscape and climate. But my question is is what we know a fairly accurate representation, and similarly, what do you know of us, how would Americans describe what Britain and it's people are like? I understand you do get British tv,  in the US but what do you get and are they true to type about us ?

I ask this question because of reading on other threads, I have become aware some people still believe we live in a system controlled wholy by the monarchy, and other instances where if there is a British inspired thread running it is largely run by the British on these forums with little contribution from Americans, is it you don't know, or is it you don't care ? The reverse is different when an American inspired, domestic America thread is running, Britons will comment, will get involved, will contribute, why is there a difference ?

What do you understand of us over here in Blighty ?


I watch a lot of Dr. Who and Torchwood, so no, much as I like them, I don't form my opinions about the UK on those shows.  [:D]

Most of my awareness of the people are formed by the friends I have there.




NorthernGent -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 3:35:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Thinking that the American shows really show anything about what Americans are like is a mistake.



Surely programmes made by people for the same people would somehow represent those people? Are you saying JR Ewing is based on some Chinese Buddhist bloke?.......Surely there has to be something approaching reality in these programmes - otherwise why would people watch them?

Arrested Development is by far the best American comedy I've seen and the best stand up we have over here at the moment is American - Rich Hall. When they get the films right they get them really right - but most of them are useless. It wouldn't be accurate to say our screens our full of US shows - it's not the case - but we do get a lot of US drama and they seem to do that quite well if you like that sort of thing.

In terms of do I believe Americans are like Dallas? I hope so - the world needs people like Digger Barnes and JR Ewing.




DaddyKeeper -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 4:55:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

Proof-in-point , several years ago, I saw a movie about an English woman whose husband had died and left no money, so she started growing pot in her conservatory as a way to stay solvent. I watched it in America and laughed way more than the Americans - they didn't get a lot of the humour, or just didn't understand the actors. It really was a terribly funny movie, and I wish I could remember the name.



The movie you refer to is "Saving Grace"




intenze -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 5:14:48 PM)

He shoots He scores! (its Canadian, do I win?)
Maybe I am cheating because I used to watch it on frequent trips to Montreal.




kdsub -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 5:24:38 PM)

You folks are stuffy

Butch




pahunkboy -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 5:51:38 PM)

PBS is pretty much our way of seeing British TV. 

Note that even if I want to and I have tried- channel 4 wont let me watch their stuff.  Sometimes it gets copied on google vids- but for the most part- I gather that since we don't pay the tv tax- that the content is restricted.

Most in the US have very little comprehension of anything outside of the country.  It is astounding-  but pop bubble gum is pretty prevalent these days.




pahunkboy -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 5:57:49 PM)

also titles are something most in America find to be-  not a system that defines our country.

Some more then others-  but as a rule the titles have no standing- - or reverence to the typical man on the street here.   even a simple word like "Parliament" hints at a government nothing like our own.  So there is an intense feeling of "over there" when titles and certain phases come up.




TreasureKY -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 5:59:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

... most Brits who watch tv have an idea of Americans are like, your attitudes, politics, way of life and traditions...


You're kidding, right?

American tv does not accurately portray American life.  [8|]  If it did, no one would watch.  How boring.






LadyAngelika -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 6:04:40 PM)

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Arrested Development is by far the best American comedy I've seen


I concur!

- LA




pahunkboy -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 6:06:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

... most Brits who watch tv have an idea of Americans are like, your attitudes, politics, way of life and traditions...


You're kidding, right?

American tv does not accurately portray American life.  [8|]  If it did, no one would watch.  How boring.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Day_at_a_Time  this show is an example.  It was a reflection of single moms. So what he suggests has some valid points to it.




TreasureKY -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 6:18:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

... most Brits who watch tv have an idea of Americans are like, your attitudes, politics, way of life and traditions...


You're kidding, right?

American tv does not accurately portray American life.  [8|]  If it did, no one would watch.  How boring.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Day_at_a_Time  this show is an example.  It was a reflection of single moms. So what he suggests has some valid points to it.



Oh absolutely... most single moms in America open their own businesses, get offered jobs in London, get whisked away on cruises by their boyfriends, have nosy janitors who insert themselves into their lives, think about adopting a baby when their children are grown... yeah, and that was just a small part of one season.  [8|]




DarkSteven -> RE: American TV ? (3/20/2010 6:32:26 PM)

Well, collarme has the British and the Canadians being interchangeable, so I assume that they are...




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