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Religion and me - 3/24/2010 8:27:33 AM

Termyn8or

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I profess to fear very little, and I think that a true statement. Even when I was younger though for a different reason - that I thought I was immortal, perhaps I was. Unlike many who get "gunshy" I got into a very bad car wreck that could've easily killed me, I rolled a van across a golf course. But I was back in the saddle the next day. Speaking of gunshy I have been shot in the face, and after I got out of the hospital I played around with guns right away. Women on the other hand........

But I remember fear and the strongest memory I have of it was when as a child I was exposed to religious types. Always want to take you to church, get you to accept their Lord Jesus Christ into my heart. Wait a minute here. We are talking around ten years old and we are talking about someone who has never recited the Pledge Of Allegiance on moral grounds, even in kindergarden.

I feared that they would get me to do it somehow. I felt like a trap had been set for me and I was on pins and needles not to fall into it. The whole idea was appalling, even at that age. Part of it was the fact that I was being asked to accept a leader who I knew practically nothing about, and I didn't take kindly to any type of leadership in the first place.

Now I find this place with people who have similar opinions about religion. What I don't know is why.

Years later I tried to accept Christianity, but I just couldn't do it. While I admit that if everyone lived by those tenets the world would be wonderful, but they don't. If I were ever ready that was the time but it just didn't happen. I still could not accept universal forgiveness. I don't think it's right for some guy who maims someone to be forgiven by someone who lived two thousand years ago, that believe that forgivness can only come from those who have been wronged. I guess you're not in a really good position there if you kill someone.

I don't fear loaded guns pointed at me, driving at 150 MPH, fire, explosives, anything, but giving up my self. That's how it looked to me and some may wonder how one can not fear death without some sort of faith. And then "they" tried to convert me in my twenties. They failed in their argument and resorted to "What if it is true ?". That sunk their ship because if I were to accept it because it might be true, that is the epitome of hypocracy. If you truly believe, more power to you. But don't just talk the talk, walk the walk.

Over the years I've known many Christians, Jews, Mormons and a couple of Moslems here and there, and I have found absolutely no correlation between their religious beliefs and their morality or concern for the human race.

It is totally illogical to me. Even the best argument they can muster, which is based on the premise that this life is actually preparation for the afterlife, holds no water in my view. If we are to prepare, well dammit prepare ! That means actions in this life count, and faith logically does not trump all.

With some, I think if I gave it some effort I could destroy their faith, but I won't do that. It might be true and what I do with my "soul" is my business. I have no right to impose my views on them and cost them their key to the gates of heaven or whatever they seek.

Now I, like many have become somewhat intolerant of evangelicals. They are here to tell me that my belief system is wrong, and I better listen to them lest I burn in hell. Well I have been threatened before and it just doesn't work.

They don't come here anymore. The olman fixed that, and he didn't even have to answer the doorbell naked. The Mormons came. Well what he did was to read the book of Mormon and shoved their own "scripture" down their throat.

Now I am fairly cognizant of what made me what I am today, what a piece of work I might add. I am defiant to the end, and am pretty sure I will remain so. But what I don't understand is my aversion to these things at such a young age. Heredity or very early influences ? I figure it must be one or the other, possibly both.

I wonder if others had such apprehension for religion at such a young age. Did anyone ? From day one I was so reluctant to walk into a church that you would think that I ran out the door into heavy traffic during my baptism. Now I can go to weddings and funerals, but I don't like it at all.

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