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Do you consider - 3/25/2010 11:48:10 AM   
osf


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Status: offline 		being owned property as more intense than being a slave?

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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 11:54:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		That would depend on what the words meant to those using them.  One person's slave is another person's owned property and both would be equally intense.

The intent/meaning behind the words is more important than the words themselves...in my opinion.



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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 11:56:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		The perception of "intensity" in a relationship is up to the individuals involved.

i do make a distinction between being owned property and being slave, as it is possible to be a slave without being owned property. You could also probably be owned property without being slave (even though i've never seen it - but it could happen, i imagine).

But either could be more intense - just like anything else, it depends upon the relationship.

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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 12:14:16 PM   
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The perception of "intensity" in a relationship is up to the individuals involved.

i do make a distinction between being owned property and being slave, as it is possible to be a slave without being owned property. You could also probably be owned property without being slave (even though i've never seen it - but it could happen, i imagine).

But either could be more intense - just like anything else, it depends upon the relationship.


Sense actual ownership of another human being is of dubious legality, to be owned you have to in a way acquiesce to being owned and to assume the obligations of being owned and one of those obligations would be obedience

well that's my thoughts

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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 12:19:55 PM   
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The perception of "intensity" in a relationship is up to the individuals involved.

i do make a distinction between being owned property and being slave, as it is possible to be a slave without being owned property. You could also probably be owned property without being slave (even though i've never seen it - but it could happen, i imagine).

But either could be more intense - just like anything else, it depends upon the relationship.


Sense actual ownership of another human being is of dubious legality, to be owned you have to in a way acquiesce to being owned and to assume the obligations of being owned and one of those obligations would be obedience

well that's my thoughts


Yes, we are speaking of consensual "ownership" here.

i agree that it seems that one of the obligations of being owned would be obedience. But i know of some slaves on these boards who would disagree with that, and i tend to disagree as well. If a person owns a cat, is the cat obligated to obey? Most cats don't obey their owners, but they bring pleasure in their own way. A simple comparison i know, but it works for me.

But this is not your original question - you asked which is "more intense."

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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 12:26:24 PM   
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The perception of "intensity" in a relationship is up to the individuals involved.

i do make a distinction between being owned property and being slave, as it is possible to be a slave without being owned property. You could also probably be owned property without being slave (even though i've never seen it - but it could happen, i imagine).

But either could be more intense - just like anything else, it depends upon the relationship.


Sense actual ownership of another human being is of dubious legality, to be owned you have to in a way acquiesce to being owned and to assume the obligations of being owned and one of those obligations would be obedience

well that's my thoughts


Yes, we are speaking of consensual "ownership" here.

i agree that it seems that one of the obligations of being owned would be obedience. But i know of some slaves on these boards who would disagree with that, and i tend to disagree as well. If a person owns a cat, is the cat obligated to obey? Most cats don't obey their owners, but they bring pleasure in their own way. A simple comparison i know, but it works for me.

But this is not your original question - you asked which is "more intense."



Did/can the cat agree to be owned, and does the cat feel a since of obligation because if it?

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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 12:30:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven

Yes, we are speaking of consensual "ownership" here.

i agree that it seems that one of the obligations of being owned would be obedience. But i know of some slaves on these boards who would disagree with that, and i tend to disagree as well. If a person owns a cat, is the cat obligated to obey? Most cats don't obey their owners, but they bring pleasure in their own way. A simple comparison i know, but it works for me.

But this is not your original question - you asked which is "more intense."

Did/can the cat agree to be owned, and does the cat feel a since of obligation because if it?


The answer to both your questions is - maybe. i have had cats show up at my door and walk in and make themselves at home - obviously seeking to be owned. But does a cat bought at a pet store agree to be owned? Maybe not. Do either feel a sense of obligation? Who knows.

There are slaves on these boards who would also agree that they don't "agree to be owned" - they are compelled to be slaves due to the force of their Owner's will. Hopefully one of them will contribute, as i'm not going to speak for someone else.

Edited b/c sheesh, i can't type today.

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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 12:45:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven

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ORIGINAL: osf
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ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven

Yes, we are speaking of consensual "ownership" here.

i agree that it seems that one of the obligations of being owned would be obedience. But i know of some slaves on these boards who would disagree with that, and i tend to disagree as well. If a person owns a cat, is the cat obligated to obey? Most cats don't obey their owners, but they bring pleasure in their own way. A simple comparison i know, but it works for me.

But this is not your original question - you asked which is "more intense."

Did/can the cat agree to be owned, and does the cat feel a since of obligation because if it?


The answer to both your questions is - maybe. i have had cats show up at my door and walk in and make themselves at home - obviously seeking to be owned. But does a cat bought at a pet store agree to be owned? Maybe not. Do either feel a sense of obligation? Who knows.

There are slaves on these boards who would also agree that they don't "agree to be owned" - they are compelled to be slaves due to the force of their Owner's will. Hopefully one of them will contribute, as i'm not going to speak for someone else.

Edited b/c sheesh, i can't type today.



Not being female or a slave I can't speak to the question with the feelings of a submissive all I can use is that damned dominants logic thing

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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 12:55:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		i have an intense mind-set already, so any type of relationship will be intense for me. It doesn't matter what type because of my own basic personality here.

With that said, i would like to address your question in an off way. Sir owns me, and i am his slave. Each day, in different amounts, i just look up at him and say here is another piece of me that you own now. Each day, something else that belong to my ego gets handed over to him. Interesting thing, he doesn't ask. It just happening, and i am not stopping the flow.

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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 2:29:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		All I know is saying "that tight little hole belongs to me" always sounded hotter than "that tight little hole is leased to me".

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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 4:48:08 PM   
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being owned property as more intense than being a slave?

i am just naturally intense, so any relationship i'm in is intense. i think the answer to Your question depends upon the people in the relationship. The way Master Sir sees it is, first i am owned property and then the next step is being collared. Then i become a collared slave & i will be an owned AND collared slave.

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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 5:34:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't recognize a difference in the two terms, so it's a moot point. :)

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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 6:49:22 PM   
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All I know is saying "that tight little hole belongs to me" always sounded hotter than "that tight little hole is leased to me".


And "that tight little hole belongs to me" is definitely WAY hotter than the reality for some of us, which is "I'm borrowing that tight little hole for an hour or so before you take it back home to nilla man", and "I'm going to use MY slut" sounds so much more domly than "Mind if I screw you a little, sweetheart?" Once again, the meaning and intensity of the terms depends upon the people using them, and the intent behind them.

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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 7:06:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Neither to my mind has the propensity in and of itself to be more intense.  I am both slave and owned property (formalities pending at this time, however).  The two are inseparable for me. 

I am one of those who feels like UniqueRaven alluded to in her post.  I know that it has been HIS will and power to control me that has brought me to this place.  I didn't trot up to his side and decide then and there to follow him around and be his.  He found my little message sitting in his inbox and just simply decided that this new conquest was HIS.  I have said before that things went way off script nearly from the first moments of our relationship.  I never really had a whole lot of control.  He literally had to gift me with just enough of a chance to walk away that I could let go of the need for such, which is what happened about a month ago.  I never really left the place of no control, but the window he left open I promptly went over and closed and now he is the only one who will reopen it.

Again, neither is inherently more intense and, for some of us, there is no distinguishing one from the other due to the nature of the dynamic as it has developed.  If there is consent involved, I certainly got the short end of the proverbial stick!  Then again, I don't care about it.  I am perfectly happy and content as HIS.... HIS slave, HIS property, HIS slut, HIS whatever he needs me to be.

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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 7:48:33 PM   
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Again, neither is inherently more intense and, for some of us, there is no distinguishing one from the other due to the nature of the dynamic as it has developed.  If there is consent involved, I certainly got the short end of the proverbial stick!  Then again, I don't care about it.  I am perfectly happy and content as HIS.... HIS slave, HIS property, HIS slut, HIS whatever he needs me to be.

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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 8:23:17 PM   
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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 10:19:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		i beleive its a matter of perspective. for me i am collared and that makes me owned by my Mistress, but i do know of otheres that see a diffrence between the 2 so for thwm it will be diffrent

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RE: Do you consider - 3/25/2010 11:09:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not as concerned about the words used as the intent of the one whose collar (or whatever symbol) I wear. If he knows and I know what our relationship is, then he can call me Mr Magoo and it wouldn't matter to anyone but us.

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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 3:02:47 AM   
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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 5:24:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I thought our cats owned us???

Since there isn't anything legally binding that makes us "owned", it's all in the terminology.  If you want to think of yourself as "owned" and your "owner" thinks he or she "owns" you, and you both feel that you've reached Nirvana, then it's all good.

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