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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 6:16:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: peppermint

Are we splitting hairs again?  


I thought it was an open discussion about hairs

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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 6:18:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: windchymes

I thought our cats owned us???

Since there isn't anything legally binding that makes us "owned", it's all in the terminology.  If you want to think of yourself as "owned" and your "owner" thinks he or she "owns" you, and you both feel that you've reached Nirvana, then it's all good.


I'll drink to that but i was just accused of drinking anyway

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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 6:39:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		this slave considers them to be the same...a rose by any other name, and all that...the intensity of which would depend on what the Owner/Master involved desired.

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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 6:50:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

this slave considers them to be the same...a rose by any other name, and all that...the intensity of which would depend on what the Owner/Master involved desired.


Is your concept of blue my concept of blue, do we actually see blue the same

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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 6:54:11 AM   
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this slave considers them to be the same...a rose by any other name, and all that...the intensity of which would depend on what the Owner/Master involved desired.


Is your concept of blue my concept of blue, do we actually see blue the same


probably not...but we might be able to agree on what isn't blue.

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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 6:58:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth


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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

this slave considers them to be the same...a rose by any other name, and all that...the intensity of which would depend on what the Owner/Master involved desired.


Is your concept of blue my concept of blue, do we actually see blue the same


probably not...but we might be able to agree on what isn't blue.



sometimes looking at what isn't gives you a better understanding of what is

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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 7:02:24 AM   
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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 7:06:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		But if it would not be if it were, what would it be

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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 7:43:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I see a slave as being owned property-duh.
It's kind of a tautology if ya think it through.


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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 7:48:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kana

I see a slave as being owned property-duh.
It's kind of a tautology if ya think it through.



now all you have to do is convince a lot of slaves on cm that have a hard limit list longer than their will do list

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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 8:21:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: osf


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I see a slave as being owned property-duh.
It's kind of a tautology if ya think it through.



now all you have to do is convince a lot of slaves on cm that have a hard limit list longer than their will do list


Now why would I want to convince them?
They got their deal. I have mine.
Just cause we see TTTWD differently doesn't make one of us right or one of us wrong. It just means we interact in different ways.



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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 10:11:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hmm this is interesting i am a submissive with slave tendencies iand both Master and i see myself as owned. I guess you don't think a sub can be owned fair enough that is your ooinion. I don't know why you have to be a slave to have an intesne relationship. Master and i have a real solid relationship, and i kive him intensly if that is what you mean. Then we do have a intense relationship.

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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 10:29:30 AM   
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I am taking no stand on subs (Other than I like my Italian cold cuts with provo, cherry peppers, lettuce, tomatoes, onions, O&V, oregano, and, of all things, ketchup-indigestion special, I know)
But a slave by definition is property.
Don't believe me though, ask dictionary.com.

Slave [Sleyv]
Noun
1. a person who is the property of and wholly subject to another; a bond servant.

< Message edited by Kana -- 3/26/2010 10:30:42 AM >

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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 10:46:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		actually sub/slave as terms mean nothing to me, I want to know how committed and obedient you are

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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 1:33:42 PM   
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All I know is saying "that tight little hole belongs to me" always sounded hotter than "that tight little hole is leased to me".


THIS!   

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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 2:28:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: osf

actually sub/slave as terms mean nothing to me, I want to know how committed and obedient you are


IOW, it's not the term used, it's the understanding the people involved have of what is going on between them that counts.

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RE: Do you consider - 3/26/2010 3:25:51 PM   
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I actually consider them to be the same thing. My slaveboy is my owned property. That's kinda the point.





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RE: Do you consider - 3/30/2010 9:58:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: osf

Sense (SINCE) actual ownership of another human being is of dubious legality, to be owned you have to in a way acquiesce to being owned and to assume the obligations of being owned and one of those obligations would be obedience

well that's my thoughts


in broad sweeping thought.... I would agree.
Ownership of me would demand my obedience and submission.  

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RE: Do you consider - 3/30/2010 10:11:50 AM   
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being owned property as more intense than being a slave?


Is not that exactly the same thing?

I wish you well


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RE: Do you consider - 3/30/2010 12:27:46 PM   
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being owned property as more intense than being a slave?
For me, those words are synonymous. Obviously, other people's definitions will be their own. Again, FOR ME, having a slave satisfies me. Having a sub does not. So yeah, having a slave is "more intense".

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