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RE: Outcry over the Popes visit. - 3/25/2010 6:06:44 PM

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Oh no RO! If you asked any representative sample of Brits you'd find the vast majority to be at clear variance with our national diplomatic and foreign policies.

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and you are all chattel and have no guns to do anything about it if you wanted too.

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RE: Outcry over the Popes visit. - 3/25/2010 6:07:08 PM

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well you are wrong about most of what I read of yours and I see you maintain that track record well.

Apology accepted.

you call that an apology?

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RE: Outcry over the Popes visit. - 3/25/2010 6:07:09 PM

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I dont usually contribute on this part of the forums, but this 1 got me for a few reasons.

If not for Henry V111, wanting a divorce, this had become a catholic country. the church of england didnt exist.

The church has made many mistakes over the years, but that's the church, ie people, not the teachings.

My sister who is gay is planning/joining a march against the Popes anti gay comments. I wont be joining in.

If it was a protest about the church hiding child abusers, id have thought about it. Seems they are irrelevant.

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RE: Outcry over the Popes visit. - 3/25/2010 6:10:20 PM

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and you are all chattel and have no guns to do anything about it if you wanted too.

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Guns are only of use if you have rounds to fire out of them, much can be done without reliance on such things.

when we wee kids we milled out a hunk of iron and hsot anything we wanted in the darn thing.

rocks marbles hunk of bolt you name.

A good black cat firecracker could puncture someones skull and ammo comes under the right to bear arms over here. you cannot bear an arm if you do not have ammo.

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RE: Outcry over the Popes visit. - 3/25/2010 6:13:26 PM

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Oh no RO! If you asked any representative sample of Brits you'd find the vast majority to be at clear variance with our national diplomatic and foreign policies.

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That is so, in some cases it even seems like a case of them and us in our own country, they continue to do what they have always done under the unbrella of so called ' national interests ', using their power and influence to in a word, 'use' the country and it's people to basically line their own pockets. They may irritate a situation in other countries to the point where conflict is necessary, but they are never the ones on the battlefield, that is for the plebs to do, they can as they have always done, fight and die for their causes. I speak of the same powers that have created our history, history where the plebian received the pain so others could luxuriate.

If anybody reads our history and truly understands it, they will see much of the dislike English seem to have in the world, comes from past times where our then lords and masters did the same as they are doing now, nothing has changed, the pleb gets shot and bombed in their home towns and the irritators are nowhere to be seen.

In the UK, perrhaps we are different, we tend not to trust government and rulers, I suppose our history has made us that aware.

yeppers you are bang on.

Nothing has changed in hundreds of years.

the same people are in power and the ordinary joe is the collateral damage of those people. hence slavery through agreement by acquiescence.

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RE: Outcry over the Popes visit. - 3/25/2010 6:16:04 PM

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Apology accepted.

you call that an apology?

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Actually it was sarcasm, but you are too stupid to have worked that out.

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RE: Outcry over the Popes visit. - 3/25/2010 6:22:51 PM

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Arms take many forms, in fact one of the most formidable weapons of the middle ages was derived from a common farming tool, the bill

That tool is still in common use throughout Britain with gardners and farmers, anyone in fact who works with the land, even I have one and used it recently to reclaim my carpark back from nature.

That is only one example of what is still around, there are many other things that can constitute a weapon if need be. I can also use a sling capable of lobbing a half brick about a hundred yards with a fair degree of accuracy, that was a residue of my scouting days.

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RE: Outcry over the Popes visit. - 3/25/2010 6:28:30 PM

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That tool is still in common use throughout Britain with gardners and farmers, anyone in fact who works with the land, even I have one and used it recently to reclaim my carpark back from nature.

Looks pretty archaic to me, sure you wouldn't have been better off using a tractor and plough?

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RE: Outcry over the Popes visit. - 3/25/2010 6:37:30 PM

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Brambles and ivy over tarmac, the billhook did just fine. It had been growing there over fifteen years according to my elderley neighbours.

I tend to make a point of if I have to do something, that requires the use of a tool, use a manual tool, as with manual tools that is where skill is learned and lies, anyone can pay to fuel and use a machine. Yes, my arm ached like hell after it, and I was covered in cuts and scratches from the brambles, but the job was done and I got some exercise into the bargain.

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RE: Outcry over the Popes visit. - 3/25/2010 6:42:35 PM

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Aneirin I know what you mean because I myself am using a massive keyboard to type this: the Q is 100m away from the P, I hope to burn a billion calories per email written.

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RE: Outcry over the Popes visit. - 3/26/2010 6:21:40 AM

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Arms take many forms, in fact one of the most formidable weapons of the middle ages was derived from a common farming tool, the bill

That tool is still in common use throughout Britain with gardners and farmers, anyone in fact who works with the land, even I have one and used it recently to reclaim my carpark back from nature.

That is only one example of what is still around, there are many other things that can constitute a weapon if need be. I can also use a sling capable of lobbing a half brick about a hundred yards with a fair degree of accuracy, that was a residue of my scouting days.

Or you could just buy a shotgun or a bolt action rifle, of course. You can still get a license for those.

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RE: Outcry over the Popes visit. - 3/26/2010 6:24:13 AM

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Please correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not British) but isn't the monarch also the head of the Church in England? Do you guys have any 'freedom to practice your religion' laws or not?

Because if not, wouldn't it be up to the state's discretion? One could be okay, but the other isn't?

In fact, the Queen's "Defender of the faith" title actually refers to her being the Pope's bitch in the UK. The Anglican thing is separate.

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RE: Outcry over the Popes visit. - 3/26/2010 7:55:17 AM

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Please correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not British) but isn't the monarch also the head of the Church in England? Do you guys have any 'freedom to practice your religion' laws or not?

Because if not, wouldn't it be up to the state's discretion? One could be okay, but the other isn't?

In fact, the Queen's "Defender of the faith" title actually refers to her being the Pope's bitch in the UK. The Anglican thing is separate.

Actually, it's been revoked and altered.
Henry was titled Defender of the Faith(catholic) until he was excommunicated. Then parliment did a switcharoonie back in the 1500s and turned the title to the Anglican faith.

Elizabeth is Defender of the Faith of the Church of England, not of the Catholic church. It means she is suprior to the Archbishop of Cantabury.

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RE: Outcry over the Popes visit. - 3/26/2010 9:24:39 AM

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My mistake: I thought the catholic title hadn't been repealed.

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