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sunshinemiss -> RE: Do you think my master is being fair? (4/15/2010 4:08:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mastersslut69 Hi Does anyone still wonder if the punishment is proportionate to the crime or do you never question even to yourself masters discipline? Basically I lost something, just a train travel pass, and I told master. He's hit the roof as he's says I'm careless and even though it's now turned up I'm told I'm getting punished for it. I know this will involve me bent over, spanked with his hand and then belt until I can't sit down for days. He says that if I can't sit down maybe it'll remind me to be careful with stuff. I guess I know I deserve punishment because he's told me enough times to be careful as I've lost about 3 bank cards and my train pass already this past 6 months but I just don't want my spanking? I've tried talking him round and he asked me to suggest an alternative discipline but I can't???? Do others try and negotiate out of disciplines or do you just take it without question. My spanking will be thursday night as he's away till then and I'm sure I'll cry. Fast Reply I'm pretty forgetful. Punishing me is not going to change that. Forgetfulness has to do with personality, medical conditions, many things. Getting to the root of the issue is a smarter way to handle things. Obviously you are older than a child, and punishment has not worked in the past. It's foolish to continue doing the same thing and expect different results. Their needs to be a behavior change, but a bit of realism goes a long way. I have become a major list maker, I use notes to myself, alarms via my phone, etc. to help me remember things. It's not willful, it's just one of my quirks, and no amount of punishment will help. It seems that you know that punishment is not helping. Does he know that? That could be part of the frustration. Being punished in the past when I KNEW that my personality was what was "on trial" led to tremendous irritation because the decisions being made were foolish. At that point I had to question my decision to trust someone else's decisions... someone making bad decisions. Good luck, sunshine

CaringandReal -> RE: Do you think my master is being fair? (4/15/2010 4:13:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Shyla Do you think you're being fair to him by openly questioning and doubting him in a public forum while demonstrating that you would rather listen to the opinions of strangers than what he has already said to you? You aren't really asking for "fairness" here. You are asking "is my M-type wrong?" without really giving enough information for anyone to provide an informed opinion. If you think he is wrong perhaps you should speak respectfully and gracefully with him with your only intention to ask him to please hear you. The decision is still his. If you think she's not giving enough information than the onus is on you to ask intelligent quesitons. When someone doesn't give enough information it's usually because they don't realize they're not giving enough information, not because they're purposefully holding back. When someone doesn't understand something you've said, would you like it if they accused you of intentionlly not giving enough information with the ulterior motive of trying to confuse or saw people, or would you appreciate the graciousness of a question that will draw out what they need to know without making you feel like a jackass?

ranja -> RE: Do you think my master is being fair? (4/16/2010 2:26:13 AM)
Im my opinion there is NOTHING wrong with questioning your Master ever. I actually think it is a very healthy thing to do, However if you already know the punishment is fair it seems a bit useless really. Also keep in mind that the advice you might get here might be absolute tripe and not suitable to your situation at all. Oh, and it is wise to always imagine that your Master might at some time read your post, be prepared to take the consequences of that possibility. If you are new and so exited you have to tell things on these boards keep in mind that many many people here are jaded, bitchy, maybe even jealous or simply in a bad mood that day and they might slam you for your giddiness and innocence... i say fuck them and merrily post anyway For loosing your bus pass i think it is fair for him to slap your ass as a nice thing for him to do for fun... For punishment i think he should take away your bus pass and send you out and about on your bicycle on your sore ass

lusciouslips19 -> RE: Do you think my master is being fair? (4/16/2010 2:29:51 AM)
The OP was posted on march 26th. Dont ya think its over and done with by now???

Rule -> RE: Do you think my master is being fair? (4/16/2010 2:36:44 AM)
It seems to me that it is his responsibility that you are entrusted with bank passes and such. So if you lose them, it is reasonable that he punishes himself since he is the responsible party. Punishing you will not stop you from losing things. It might even cause him to be lost by you.

RidiculedPiggy -> RE: Do you think my master is being fair? (4/16/2010 6:54:47 PM)
Having just read the first few replies, i hope the content I will mention in my response won't be too off in regards to the advice she may have gotten, What was agreed to in the limits, the amount you may submit? I am asking this, being I tend to be forgetful myself, if you mentioned in the past that you had an issue with this to your dominant before hand, I suspose he should be understanding but I also realize he should help you become better by discplining you. Now spanking you may not have been the best way for the lesson to be taught. He should realize what he is doing and from my belief, I think if you are frustrated you should speak about this. Has been forgetting things been the Op's trait for a long while? If so it should be known, but no I don't think spanking you was too much if he wants to get a message across. Did the OP learn anything from the spanking? That I think only the OP and her partner would know? Also another thing to think about,if you haven't been with him too long, you may want to communicate, being it sounds like this was her first punishment.

dovie -> RE: Do you think my master is being fair? (4/16/2010 7:23:35 PM)
Was waiting for this wisdom to appear on this thread. Thank you Lady Angelika. Regards, dovie quote: ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika quote: ORIGINAL: Justme696 I don't think loosing so much stuff will be solved with punishment He needs to learn you how to be tidy...but ok...some only punish..and don't teach...it is the easy way. Let's put the D/s portion aside for a moment. The OP has issues with losing things and misplacing things. There are a few possible explanations for this. Possibly she just has an absent minded personality. One is that she is stressed or overwhelmed and this is leaving her distracted. Then again, this can be a sign of depression. And of course, she could just be careless. I don't see how physical punishment is going to fix any of these really, except for maybe the last one. I fact I would add that punishing you without addressing the issue of why you are losing and misplacing things is irresponsible. I know that back before we understood dyslexia and other learning disabilities and that physical punishment was allowed in schools, many a child got beaten for their learning difficulties. And of course, this did not solve the learning difficulties. OP, if you dynamic is set up that you are going to be physically punished for these things, then it's best you accept what you agreed to. But I would ask him if after the punishment, he might help you figure out why you have this pattern. Then once you get to the root of the problem, you can start working on it to avoid further punishment. - LA

dovie -> RE: Do you think my master is being fair? (4/16/2010 7:25:51 PM)
Celeste, Thank you too for adding your wisdom to this thread. Regards, dovie quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP We don't have a punishment dynamic. However if you habitually lose things, I would wonder if perhaps you are ADD/ADHD. If so, then being punished for having a disease is inappropriate. Are you careless or are you disorganized? If the latter, then ask him to help you become better organized. For instance do you use one purse only or several? If several, then get one multipurpose one and don't take your wallet out of it. Always put your cards back into the wallet directly after using them and put the wallet back into the purse. I myself don't see much purpose in punishing you and not helping you solve the problem. You decide if you need help from your dominant in such cases and if so, then next time look for a dominant willing to help you problem solve. It's a lot easier for him to wail on you than it is to help you think of solutions. Probably he isn't able to help you think of solutions and that's why he's resorting to this.

dovie -> RE: Do you think my master is being fair? (4/16/2010 7:27:14 PM)
Sir, Hooah! Thank you!! Regards, dovie quote: ORIGINAL: Focus50 quote: ORIGINAL: mastersslut69 Hi Does anyone still wonder if the punishment is proportionate to the crime or do you never question even to yourself masters discipline? Basically I lost something, just a train travel pass, and I told master. He's hit the roof as he's says I'm careless and even though it's now turned up I'm told I'm getting punished for it. I know this will involve me bent over, spanked with his hand and then belt until I can't sit down for days. He says that if I can't sit down maybe it'll remind me to be careful with stuff. I guess I know I deserve punishment because he's told me enough times to be careful as I've lost about 3 bank cards and my train pass already this past 6 months but I just don't want my spanking? I've tried talking him round and he asked me to suggest an alternative discipline but I can't???? Do others try and negotiate out of disciplines or do you just take it without question. My spanking will be thursday night as he's away till then and I'm sure I'll cry. For mine, this is borderline abusive.... I'm just not convinced that belting someone so they can't sit for days will help sloppy habits such as losing things. But it sounds like a good way to promote fear and encourage you to keep secrets from him in the hope the lost whatever turns up. You're losing too many things - you need a better method. That's where he should get involved; it's called positive reinforcement. Any mindless arsewipe can beat a girl up, esp if she's a "willing" punching bag.... Focus.

poeticfreak -> RE: Do you think my master is being fair? (4/16/2010 8:00:27 PM)
just skimmed the replies but here's my take. It seems to me that you're being let off rather lightly, you've basically said that you have a habit of losing important things then deciding that because you lost it then it must not have been that important so it's no big deal. I believe the lesson you're supposed to be learning here is that being careless has consequences. this time it's being spanked, next time when you lose another bank card perhaps it will be to find that your account has been emptied by whoever found the card.

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