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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/26/2010 11:32:53 PM   
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First off, i am new to this life. Lead a vanilla lifestyle up until 2 months ago when I met Master. We don't live together and have been together 9 times now. He is teaching me to serve Him sexually right now and says He wants to bring me into His family in the future to teach me to serve him domesticlly. We text and email each other everyday. I got payed yesterday and found out today that the IRS levied all of my bank accounts and left me flat broke! I have 20 bucks to my name and wasn't able to pay my bills that are due next month. i am really scared and don't know what to do? Do i keep this to myself and just fix the problem? Or, do i tell him? We are still getting to know each other and i feel like this isn't something that you would tell someone you barely know. i do need help in this matter and have reached out to friends and family but they can't help. He is my last resort. But, shouldn't he have been my first? i am so confused and don't want to disapoint him or make him think i want his money. Please, any and all advice is greatly appreciated!


Yes, you must tell him. He already knows your in a situation with taxes and at the rate your going it will soon be very apparent you are in a bad situation. Just make clear to him you are not asking for money, will be working hard to resolve your problems and hope to continue your training in hopes of joining his household. If he is truly interested in being your Master one day he will emotionaly support you 100% as you work through this hard time.

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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/26/2010 11:36:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		What gracious said...  Open honesty, integrity and accountability are admirable traits, beyond any doubt.

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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/27/2010 2:11:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		USE (manipulate) him as a resource -- no.

Conceal your problems from him -- no.

Honestly communicate how your life circumstances have limited your ability to interact and share your life with him.

Part of mastery is teaching others how to solve their problems, and change in such a manner that they do not repeat their problems. By concealing your problems, you would be failing to surrender to his guidance.

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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/27/2010 3:49:57 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: love9boy

First off, i am new to this life. Lead a vanilla lifestyle up until 2 months ago when I met Master. We don't live together and have been together 9 times now. He is teaching me to serve Him sexually right now and says He wants to bring me into His family in the future to teach me to serve him domesticlly. We text and email each other everyday. I got payed yesterday and found out today that the IRS levied all of my bank accounts and left me flat broke! I have 20 bucks to my name and wasn't able to pay my bills that are due next month. i am really scared and don't know what to do? Do i keep this to myself and just fix the problem? Or, do i tell him? We are still getting to know each other and i feel like this isn't something that you would tell someone you barely know. i do need help in this matter and have reached out to friends and family but they can't help. He is my last resort. But, shouldn't he have been my first? i am so confused and don't want to disapoint him or make him think i want his money. Please, any and all advice is greatly appreciated!



telling yes...but I don't know if he can or should help you..at least not financially
But he can support you..help you in otherways...if you are good "friends".
There is nothing wrong to ask some one close for help. It is better to prevent things then to end worse.

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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/27/2010 4:08:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		i think youve had some great advice.

my first reaction was - no dont tell him because in youre position i wouldnt.  id just 'deal' with the issue id found myself in and if it was going to impinge on Him then id tell him - if not then after only a few meets in a relatively short period of time i wouldnt want to come across as being flat broke and after his money either.

but he wants you to live 24/7 in his service - i read later, or atleast you made that more clearer as the thread progressed.

so now, i would tell him, because it is going to impinge on him having you available to him 24/7 - and thats how id approach it frankly.  that because youre in debt you will have to work to pay that debt off so youre 24/7 service to him might not be quite so 24/7.  being afraid of the outcome shouldnt stop you from being honest about it

the thing is - you must have known this situation was brewing all through these past weeks of building something with this guy.  if i were youre M thats what id be pondering over.  why hadnt you mentioned the fact that youd failed to keep up with youre tax installments.  thats the bit youre going to have to look at and be ready with an answer on.

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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/27/2010 4:35:22 AM   
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Report your situation, it is your duty.

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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/27/2010 6:42:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		At the start of the thread I was thinking there must be a great story about you being an irresponsible asshole. That seems to not be the case. You're likely afraid to tell him because you feel embarrassed and fear him dumping you. If he dumps you based on the facts you laid out, he's the asshole.

Tell him.

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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/27/2010 7:57:13 AM   
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i am a slave in training. i have a lot to learn in regards to serving Master. if we were living togther i know i would have to tell him. But, i don't want to burden him with my problems because our relationship is so brand new. i do feel he takes his Mastery seriously. He lives this life 24/7 and that's how our life together would be. He already knows how much i owe the IRS. So that wouldn't be shocking to him. If/when i tell him i am scared he will not want to own me any longer. i desire to be with him forever and have told him that. Like i said I don't want to disappoint him and make him think i am after his money.


The thing is and I presume you both are working towards him eventually taking complete authority over you and your life. If that is the case then part of your service as a slave to him is to make him aware of the extent of your problems with the IRS. That is part of handing all authority to another. Yes this is your problem yet when you consented to serve him as your Master, that means he should be told. Chances are he will be more disappointed if you withheld this info and he found out at a later date. As a slave, you are obligated to be open to your owner on everything. When one gives authority to another that also includes giving up the luxury of making most decisions for yourself and by yourself.


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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/27/2010 8:09:34 AM   
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No, not irresponsible at all. 2009 was the single worst year of my life as it was for many people in the world. my partner of 14 years died one year ago, lost my job right after that, lost our home right after that and spent my entire life savings on funeral costs and surving without a job for 5 months. That's the reason i defaulted on my payment agreement with the IRS. Nothing more, nothing less. i don't need Masters money because i can make my own. i just don't want him to think i am looking for an easy out when i do move into his home. We have alot to talk about. i'm pretty sure He won't want to take on my debt so He will probably want me to continue to serve Him AND work. I am perfectly willing and able of doing just that. i'm just nervous and scared. i'm sure most people with a heart can relate.


If this is the case. Nothing is stopping you from having a heart to heart talk with your Master and laying your cards on the table regarding your bind with the IRS. Let him know that you are seriously looking into all avenues to resolve your situation and also explain there may be a chance that you'll lose internet and/pr cell phone service temporary.  Being a slave doesn't absolve you of your personal responsibilities and will show Him that you are putting in serious effort to fixing this problem. He may also suggest other options for you and he may help you financially: you will not know for sure until you talk to him. Tell him all that's happened and all that you are doing to fix it...that speaks volumes.

Personally, if my boy withheld the full nature of some problem he got into and only revealed partial truths then I'd be seriously reconsidering our relationship and seriously questioning if he was actually serious about being my boy. I would expect him to tell me and then I will help him help himself.




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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/27/2010 9:27:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ask him for advice. I'm assuming you've started looking for a second job to get you out of this hole. Go seek help from social services. And you can set up a payment plan with the IRS, do so.

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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/27/2010 11:30:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: love9boy

If/when i tell him i am scared he will not want to own me any longer.


This is the part that concerned me the most regarding your master. He would really take off at the first sign of fear from his slave?

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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/27/2010 11:45:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		We were supposed to get together last night but He text me and had to cancel due to Him getting drunk with His client that brings Him a lot of buisness His way. Then this morning He text me and apologized for canceling on me. i told Him that there was something very important i needed to discuss with Him. i have told Him about my situation and He said not to worry. He asked for a detailed statement for all debts owed and monthly expenses. i sent it via email and told him i have no expectations from Him at all what so ever, just thought He needed to know about this major life event that's happened to me. Then He asked for my monthly income, asked if i was in a lease and how much to buy out my lease right now. i don't know what He's thinking. Well i have an idea but, is it right for Him to do this for me? i can't tell Him no but at the same time i want to take care of this myself. i guess i will find out soon what He wants me to do.

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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/27/2010 11:52:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think it's a good idea for him to get involved in your finances beyond advice if that is what you are implying.

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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/27/2010 12:03:14 PM   
love9boy


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Status: offline 		Since april 1st. is my last month before my lease expires it's my impression He will pay for my last months rent. i will give a proper 30 day notice and as He suggested to me before, move me into one of his properties so i will be closer to serve him properly. If not move me into his private home where i will continue to serve Him and continue to work to pay off my debt i have incurred.

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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/27/2010 2:49:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I got 'stuck' in a relationship once because I became financially dependent upon my partner. I thought about leaving EVERY DAY, but I was afraid that I would end up on the street because I was broke. I will never do that again.

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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/27/2010 4:57:51 PM   
DickSteel


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quote:

ORIGINAL: love9boy

We were supposed to get together last night but He text me and had to cancel due to Him getting drunk with His client that brings Him a lot of buisness His way. Then this morning He text me and apologized for canceling on me. i told Him that there was something very important i needed to discuss with Him. i have told Him about my situation and He said not to worry. He asked for a detailed statement for all debts owed and monthly expenses. i sent it via email and told him i have no expectations from Him at all what so ever, just thought He needed to know about this major life event that's happened to me. Then He asked for my monthly income, asked if i was in a lease and how much to buy out my lease right now. i don't know what He's thinking. Well i have an idea but, is it right for Him to do this for me? i can't tell Him no but at the same time i want to take care of this myself. i guess i will find out soon what He wants me to do.

You did your part. However, it certainly isn't for us to judge what is right or wrong for him to do. If he is wealthy, it is no skin off his back to gamble a small investment on a potentially good relationship and invest in a slave. Either way... we can't answer your question about what is or isn't right for him to do financially.

If somehow you or anyone replying thinks that financial involvement is somehow wrong, creates undue commitment or in anyway causes a bond beyond expectations... then neither you or they should utter the word slave again. If little money creates a bond, debt or commitment deeper than pledging yourself as a slave or committing to someone as Master, then I will burn all my leather.

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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/27/2010 5:14:02 PM   
dragon200070


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The easy thing is to always tell all the truth. Your master should know, but you need not ask him for money. Pursue your local Health and Human agencies. See if they can help you. Talk to the agency putting levies against you; perhaps they can slow their actions if they know you intend to pay them. Get a public funded lawyer too. Ask your Dom for advice. He can and should be an asset for you.

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RE: Should i tell Master? - 3/27/2010 5:36:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: love9boy

wow, i totally made a mistake by saying Master is a "Last Resort". He is my first priority at all times. i am sorry for the mess up. I guess what i meant by him being the last resort was i don't want him to think i can't handle this on my own without needing his financial assistance. i don't want him thinking i am after his money. All i want is to please Him. Not disappoint.


Hello Nine -
Listen, it's like this. You've had NINE DATES with this guy. Would you bare your financial soul in a vanilla sense? I sure wouldn't. Lady Pact has a good point that telling him what's going on, and tee said it so well, but he's your FIRST priority? You barely know him.

Generally speaking, M-types like to deal with grown ups who handle their own grown up problems. You two are getting to know each other. At this point, are you really giving up your ability to manage your own life? Perhaps you need to put your focus where it belongs - managing your life. If you can get some support and help from him (as in advice), great. In fact this would be a good way to see how well he does in a difficult situation.

I'm so sorry you are having a rough time. However, the IRS does not do an action like that unless it's been a long time coming. Sounds like you've not been taking very good care of yourself. Maybe it's time.

Get a big cup of tea or coffee, a notepad and a pen, and get some advice from people who know about this stuff. And call the IRS and work out a payment plan!

Good luck,
sunshine



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RE: Should i tell Master? - 4/27/2010 2:25:36 PM   
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RE: Should i tell Master? - 5/3/2010 6:48:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well a little update. The next day Master invited me over to his place were I met his other slave. I had no idea there was another slave. They have been together for 6 years. I naively thought I was the only one. We had dinner and enoyed each others company. The next evening I went back over. Master wasn't there but told me to come over and he would be there in about an hour. I got there and was suddenly overwhelmed with guilt. His slave and I were talking about Master. I had to leave. So I left before master got home. I was feeling guilty about coming in between Master and his other slaveboy. Short end of it Master was very angry with me. I explained to him how I felt and He said there was nothing for me to come in between of. He said it was his fault that happened and not the slaves fault. He said it's never the slaves fault always the Masters. He said he should have never left us alone together. He said his boy was just his slave and nothing more. We talked for a long time that night. I told him I couldn't serve him if I wasn't the only slave. I told him I wasn't giving him an ulitmatum. It was just how I felt. I explained that if it was just him that I would serve him for life. I also said I was looking for love and ownership. I never moved in. I got my finanacial taken care all on my own and we still continue to talk. He's still my Master and I am still his boy but, we don't get to see each other as often as I would like. I am really bummed out. I was starting to fall for him. He said we were an almost perfect match for each other. There was alomost two weeks there we didn't talk to each other because it was over in both of our opinions. He text me one night and said he misses me too much. It made me feel special that he was thinking of me. so we began talking again after that. He said he didn't want me to think that he had somehow changed and would always be a master that owned multiple slaves. So I guess I am just his sex slave. There's always a catch isn't there. I have kept asking myself, do I want to be owned or do I want to be loved? I want both! I don't know if I will ever get it though. I wish Master and I could be together. But it won't ever happen the way we both want it to happen. Sucks!

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