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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

lol... a submissive boy telling me no. how cute!


Oh dear...

Though if he's listed as "switch" and you're listed as "slave" I think the "hierarchy" would be clear, if you want to make it about that.

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ORIGINAL: DWCskitten

~Fast Reply~
So, i read the source thread the link sent me to. i'm not sure i understand the whole thing, unless it's saying that Dominants are on the top of the heap, then subs, then slaves. But what about? Does that mean for the value of one's opinions, or just general respect, or what? i suppose if we're going to think this way, why not take it one step further and say Masters/Mistresses are on the very top, then Dom/mes, then subs, and then slaves are at the very bottom?

For me, i just respect everyone, regardless of where they are in any so-called heirarchy, and value everyone's opinions. But then, i'm just that way. Plus, with the way i identify now (slave), i'd be at the bottom of that heap. lol Of course, i still would not actually submit to Anyone unless Master Sir told me, or allowed me, to. Respect certainly, but not submission without His permission.

~kitten~

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ORIGINAL: Kana

There's me and mine
then the rest of ya lunatics...grins...who I choose to judge individually by who you are rather than whatever you label yourself as.

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ORIGINAL: catize


To see it as a “higher-archy” is to believe in a 'lower-archy”. No matter one's position or orientation, we all have value in the world and/or a D/s relationship. If no one empties the CEO's trash can, pretty soon he/she will be sitting on a pile of garbage.

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I don't buy into the whole 'you can't be dominant if you kneel' jazz from the other thread-if you can have enough of an authority over someone that they are willing to kneel for you then that's that-who is anyone else to criticise?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

No one was criticising. I said.. for me this doesnt work. If it works for you, more power to ya!

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if i recognized a switch, perhaps. and as much as that may get me chewed out, i simply cannot view a man who kneels as dominant. they may have a dominant streak, which is a totally different animal.

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Even "sub" would be higher than "slave" if you want to get into hierarchy...personally I don't...I don't think that I would have the right to tell someone I don't know that they shouldn't debate with me because of their BDSM status, and I know I'd never personally stand for it.

Also, a dominant streak is all it takes. I'm a switch myself and trust me when I'm in a dominant state of mind...I'm a Domme. I own that shit. Someone might not want to recognize me as a "real" domme because I sometimes submit, but that would be intellectual...on a physical level, if I'm being a domme, and they are a sub...they'll feel it.

I don't know if it's different for a man, but oftentimes the only thing that would stand in the way of being dominated by a switch is the knowledge that they are a switch sets up a mental roadblock.

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i would have a hard time "feeling" it from a woman. and once i see, or know, the man in my life kneeling to another, the dominant streak wont matter. its odd how that works for me. but i have a feeling it works that way for many.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

"I" dont recognize. Personal choice. you got a problem with that, its your problem. The comment was also made that if i were a sub, i would respond to the Domme side of the other poster... that aint likely to happen either. I still say, for me, this doesnt work.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

For ME, no big picture hierachy exists.

There are, quite literally tons, of dominant people, people that identify as mistress or master, people that other people view as master or mistress, that I see as morons.

There are also quite a lot of people that identify as submissive or slave that I hold in very high regard, higher regard than most of the people that identify as dominant, master, mistress.

This is one issue that, unless it's directly affecting my life.........I really don't give a flying fuck and am clueless as to why anyone else would.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Based upon what I have seen/heard, the s-types that struggle most with this concept are hetro s women, that have some sort of idea that gender plays a role in dominance.