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ORIGINAL: allthatjaz

I think I know what your saying. You want a girl that can swing a hammer and build that house with you and not a girl that's going to stand in the garden in a pretty dress and go 'oh my'? that this girl is happy to be lead by you but who is not a wuss when it comes to getting her hands dirty?
Nothing to do with uniforms and medals but all to do with ability.

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If he isn't her superior in anything, he doesn't merit her submission.

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ORIGINAL: Smutmonger

Because this comes in great part from a western Double standard that is terribly outmoded. We abide in a new age-where women are expected to have some degree of equality. And I agree with this-women should be able to view themselves as stronger-and that ability should have rewards.

I guess my model is a bit of a tomboy-equally at home hammering nails into a house frame-or gliding on the dance floor. Someone quite competent-and fanatical in a mutual vision she shares with her Dom.

I have mentioned this viewpoint-about the soldier under command to a few subs-and they told me "sounds like you are looking for a Domme."

But that's not it-though I am sure many subs out there get taken for this by the more passive (agressive?) sorts who think they deserve to get taken along for a ride.

I just like the idea of mutual responsibility-intelligence and ability. But unequal authority. And I HAVE seen this out there-I find it admirable.

What do you think-are you a soldier for HIM?

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"Look!" cried Pudding. "A silk girl!" The expression 'silk girl' is used, often, among bond-maids of the north, to refer to their counterparts in the south. The expression reflects their belief that such girls are spoiled, excessively pampered, indulged and coddled, sleek pets, who have little to do but adorn themselves with cosmetics and await their Masters, cuddled cutely, on plush, scarlet coverlets, fringed with gold. There is some envy in this charge, I think. More literally, the expression tends to be based on the fact that the brief slave tunic of the south, the single garment permitted the female slave, is often of silk. Southern girls, incidentally, in my opinion, though scarcely worked as their northern sisters in bondage, a function of the economic distinction between the farm and city, are often worked, and worked hard, particularly if they have not pleased their Masters....
Marauders of Gor, p.144

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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If he isn't her superior in anything, he doesn't merit her submission.

He has to be superior to her to merit her submission?

I'm not sure if my deduction of your statement was exact, which is why I'm asking the question.

- LA

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ORIGINAL: Smutmonger

What do you think-are you a soldier for HIM?

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ORIGINAL: Focus50


Whoa, I hope NOT...!

All due respect to the OP if he likes tomboys but my idea of 'feminine' leans more toward a soft and girly nature. It's got entirely *zilch* to do with being a 'wuss' and everything to do with girls being different to boys - a difference I happen to value. She can run the day-to-day in the home but I'll do the physical building and heavy lifting etc.

It still seems to be the age of emasculation but where does it end - and shouldn't it? Am I really such a dinosaur because I don't like seeing the women put in harm's way? I'm aghast that the military allows women to serve on front lines just as I cringe when I see young women getting about with "body art" (feral tatts, to me) or barefoot in shopping malls etc. it's all so unattractively masculine for mine....

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Sounds like the op is seeking a superwoman. She should be able to command a board room, build a house from scratch, cook an amazing meal, clean house etc etc. As well as yield to him.

But is he her equal. Can he do all the things he asks out of her? Does he dance as well as he builds? Cooks as well as his superior job level? Does he do all these things he expects from her?

And if she has that awesome level of competence in every aspect of her life, then why should she yield to him? If he isn't her superior in anything, he doesn't merit her submission.

I don't know about the op, but frankly I don't have enough energy to head a corporate takeover, cook a three course meal, go dancing, have intense sex for hours on end and then can get up the next morning and do it all over again. I don't know anyone who can, who has enough time to master a dozen impressive skills each requiring years of study.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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If he isn't her superior in anything, he doesn't merit her submission.

He has to be superior to her to merit her submission?

I'm not sure if my deduction of your statement was exact, which is why I'm asking the question.

- LA

Yes, exactly that. Not in every area but in the ones that matter.

If he doesn't make better decisions than I do, then why should I trust him with decision making? I trust a doctor over a nurse because their education is superior. A structural engineer over an architect to make sure the house is built correctly. I've known too many architects who design stuff without any thought of how winter will affect it.

He has to be better at decision making than I am, do deeper research than I do. If he's worse than I am, I wouldn't let him make a decision because I'd have to pick up the pieces. And if his decision making is par with mine, then every decision would be joint.

If you submit to someone who isn't capable of the responsibility, do expect to be run into debt, forced into situations that cause emotional damage, etc.