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Brain -> RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 1:41:58 AM)

The RNC should realize having Rush and Rupert as their strategists is causing them to implode.
  
RNC rejects joint 'civility' statement
 
By ANDY BARR | 3/26/10 6:36 PM EDT
The Republican National Committee has rejected a proposal from its Democratic counterpart to sign a joint “civility” statement, POLITICO has learned.

Various members of the DNC — including Chairman Tim Kaine, Executive Director Jen O’Malley Dillon and Communications Director Brad Woodhouse — contacted their respective RNC counterparts this week in hopes of getting RNC Chairman Michael Steele to co-sign a document with Kaine that, in part, called for “elected officials of both parties to set an example of the civility we want to see in our citizenry.”

“We also call on all Americans to respect differences of opinion, to refrain from inappropriate forms of intimidation, to reject violence and vandalism, and to scale back rhetoric that might reasonably be misinterpreted by those prone to such behavior,” read the proposed joint statement, which came at the end of a week that saw acts of vandalism and threats of violence directed at members of Congress from both parties, but mostly aimed at Democrats who voted yes on the health care bill.

Republicans see the statement as an attempt to force them to either reject the statement — allowing Democrats to say the RNC finds the incidents acceptable — or to sign on to something that the DNC would later wield against them.

The proposed statement was faxed and hand-delivered to the RNC at midmorning Friday. POLITICO learned Friday afternoon that the RNC would not sign the DNC statement.

RNC Communications Director Doug Heye told POLITICO that Steele chose not to agree to the statement because “we don’t need to do anything on their schedule or on their timetable.”

“Obviously, a large majority of Americans — a broad coalition of Republicans, Democrats and independents — are upset that President Obama, Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid pushed through health care legislation that increases premiums and raises taxes and did so through strong-arm tactics, closed-door meetings and sweetheart deals.

Voters have a right to be angry. Unfortunately, some have chosen to engage in language and actions that go too far,” Heye said, insisting that “among the first voices to condemn such activities was Michael Steele’s.”

Referring to an appearance by the two chairmen Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” during which Steele called tea party protesters who used racist language during a weekend rally “idiots,” Heye said that Kaine “did not take the opportunity to condemn these activities on 'Meet the Press.' We are glad he is now willing to do so.” Steele’s condemnation came after he was asked about the protesters’ behavior, while Kaine was not asked the same question during their joint appearance.

“Further, we hope the Democratic National Committee and, indeed, all party committees will cease and desist in any efforts to politicize or raise money — such as Organizing for America’s recent fundraising solicitation — off of rhetoric and behavior that is so clearly over the line,” Heye concluded.

Republicans and Democrats have been fighting all week over who is to blame for the acts of vandalism and threats of violence aimed at members of both parties, but mostly at Democrats.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Wednesday that Republicans are not going far enough to condemn attacks against Democratic members — who Hoyer said are at risk — while House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) contends that Republicans also face threats and charged Democrats with using the attacks to score political points.

Woodhouse told POLITICO that the DNC is “disappointed” that the RNC would not agree to a statement that “would carry a lot weight symbolically.”
 
“It’s very disappointing, but perhaps not surprising, that Chairman Steele, who authored a fundraising presentation that depicted the president as the Joker, the speaker of the House as Cruella de Vil, raised money online showing the speaker on fire and said she should be put before a firing squad would refuse to do a joint statement with Chairman Kaine to ratchet down the rhetoric and condemn the violence and threats which Republican supporters have engaged in since the passage of health reform,” Woodhouse said.
 
“Chairman Steele’s own overheated rhetoric and the Republican Party’s fear tactics have contributed to an environment of anger and frustration that is unhealthy and counterproductive to our political dialogue,” he added. “Rather than take responsibility for their own actions, Chairman Steele not only refused the good-faith offer of issuing a joint statement, he then sent his spokesperson out to go on the attack in a breathtaking display of chutzpah and hypocrisy. Chairman Kaine and Democrats will continue to work towards a civil and responsible debate on the issues of the day even as Republicans continue to be pulled farther and farther towards the radical extreme.”

Both of the committees have been accused of using controversial fundraising tactics this week in the wake last Sunday passage of health care reform.

The RNC raised more than $1 million in a “Fire Nancy Pelosi” fundraising campaign that depicted the House speaker surrounded by flames.

The DNC, meanwhile, was criticized by Republicans for sending out an e-mail from Kaine to its donors under the subject line “Heroes under attack,” urging supporters to defend the threatened members via funds to the committee.

“They've launched a campaign to ‘fire’ Nancy Pelosi, complete with imagery of the first female speaker of the House surrounded by flames. Congresswoman Louise Slaughter had a brick thrown through her office window. A Virginia blog posted Congressman Tom Perriello's home address, urging tea partiers to ‘drop by,’” the fundraising e-mail read. “The Democratic National Committee is already fighting back hard, with a sophisticated ad strategy, events on the ground and the best rapid-response program in the history of politics. But we need your help to keep it up.”
 
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/35096.html
 
Various members of the DNC contacted their respective RNC counterparts this week in hopes of getting RNC Chairman Michael Steele to co-sign a document with Kaine.




Sanity -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 8:18:34 AM)


Its really funny to see you posting about a supposed lack of civility on the part of a political group who you regularly talk trash about with the lowest possible forms of hate speech imaginable, Brian. [:D]








Kirata -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 8:20:13 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

Its really funny to see you posting about a supposed lack of civility on the part of a political group who you regularly talk trash about with the lowest possible forms of hate speech imaginable, Brian. [:D]

Sanity 1, Brain 0

K.




subrob1967 -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 8:26:25 AM)

The RNC reserved the right to call a liar a liar & a baby killer a baby killer...And this upsets the left?

Good.




tazzygirl -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 10:39:51 AM)

I agree, rob. I believe the RNC should be allowed to say exactly what they feel. Proves to the country just what idiots they are. [;)]




Musicmystery -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 10:50:21 AM)

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Republicans see the statement as an attempt to force them to either reject the statement — allowing Democrats to say the RNC finds the incidents acceptable — or to sign on to something that the DNC would later wield against them.


Well, they're right, of course--it's theater.

And from there they went on to stage their own play.

Welcome to the election cycle.






DarkSteven -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 1:06:41 PM)

The GOP really has nothing left but namecalling.  Obama ramming through HCR is just an illustration of what he can do if he wishes.  They have no reason to be civil.




Sanity -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 1:17:37 PM)


Is that why the left is sounding more desperate and shrill every day, and has to resort to scandalous bribes and dirty back room deals to get anything done?

Its because all the GOP has left is namecalling?  [:D]






TheHeretic -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 1:21:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Its really funny to see you posting about a supposed lack of civility on the part of a political group who you regularly talk trash about with the lowest possible forms of hate speech imaginable, Brian. [:D]



Don't confuse him, Sanity.  It's different when Democrats spout filth about anyone who dares disagree.




Musicmystery -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 1:36:01 PM)

If you look at the chronology Steven laid out, you'll see you're both full of shit.

Really, the amount of times you charge in to lick Sanity's ass makes me wonder if you two are dating.




TheHeretic -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 2:25:28 PM)

You really need to get laid, Tim.




Musicmystery -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 2:30:06 PM)

You're just not my type, Rich. Sorry.




Thadius -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 3:32:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

The GOP really has nothing left but namecalling.  Obama ramming through HCR is just an illustration of what he can do if he wishes.  They have no reason to be civil.

It is so hard to choose from the wonderful pictures of the left and their civil protests... Ah here is a nice friendly one, and it includes some family fun time.


[image]local://upfiles/182240/6B478C52A43441F2B3030FEE778799B9.jpg[/image]




Sanity -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 3:37:17 PM)


What were my earlier words describing those of you on the far left again...

Oh yeah - "desperate and shrill."


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

If you look at the chronology Steven laid out, you'll see you're both full of shit.

Really, the amount of times you charge in to lick Sanity's ass makes me wonder if you two are dating.




TheHeretic -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 4:31:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

You're just not my type, Rich. Sorry.



That's good to know.  [;)]   You should get some of whatever type you like though, because you seem awfully tense an awful lot.




slvemike4u -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 5:58:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Thadius


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

The GOP really has nothing left but namecalling.  Obama ramming through HCR is just an illustration of what he can do if he wishes.  They have no reason to be civil.

It is so hard to choose from the wonderful pictures of the left and their civil protests... Ah here is a nice friendly one, and it includes some family fun time.


[image]local://upfiles/182240/6B478C52A43441F2B3030FEE778799B9.jpg[/image]
While it is easy to label that as quite disturbing...I would really like some context Thad....where exactly is that picture from.
While I can't imagine any common sense reason behind that little scene....I also am limited in assigning it to the left or the right...no one was wearing "I'm a leftie" or "I'm a rightie" t-shirts.




MasterCord -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 6:21:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

The GOP really has nothing left but namecalling.  Obama ramming through HCR is just an illustration of what he can do if he wishes.  They have no reason to be civil.


Which is exactly the reason the electorate is turning on him and his party. For the President, it's all about President Obama....and nothing about the country or the electorate or anything else. The bill he "rammed" through was not wanted by a large majority of the electorate, but he and Speaker Pelosi decided that what we wanted as a nation simply didn't matter.

As for RNC name calling....apparently people have forgotten some of the names President Bush was tagged with by the DNC and it's operatives during the last election. But the RNC too needs to stick to issues. Voter anger is increasingly building toward the Democrats, but politicians in general are not immune, including Republicans.

We want leaders.....not party loyalists, sound-bite generators and hypocritical preachers, on either side.

MC














slvemike4u -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 8:00:05 PM)

A couple of things...first off have you noticed the recent polling on the bill? How can you say he rammed thru something the electorate did not want?...and why we are discussing the "electorate" are they not the same group that gave him this gig?
Okay,moving along....You say the country wants leaders,wouldn't a "leader" disregard polling and having been elected to do a job...do that job in the best fashion he,the "leader" saw fit.I mean isn't that the very definition of a leader.....because what with your talking about the "electorate" and all it certainly sounds like what you want is a "follower",you know someone who will ask to see the daily tracking numbers each and every day and act accordingly to the fickle wants of a fickle "electorate".




tazzygirl -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 8:02:12 PM)

Wasnt he elected to fix health care among other things?




cuckyman -> RE: RNC rejects joint civility statement (3/28/2010 8:19:24 PM)

Clueless libs are in for a big ass shock come November.... and then we will hear Racism!....bullshit!  Obama's legacy will be the first and last socialist presidency, and he will be vilified for decades...and rightfully so.... he is a Marxist and a Chicago machine politician that uses govenment to steal what does not belong to them and its all going to blow up in their faces.... bud, hide and watch the landslide when the democrats are pitched out on their lying socialist ass!  Then, tell us how smart you are...... Keep reading USA Today polls....they havn't been right on anything yet, so why ruin a streak?




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