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Where is the line drawn panda? Why cant burn victims have cosmetic surgery. Or if you're born ugly, or if you want a sex change operation, you won't be covered? Why not cosmetic surgery... people scream if insurance companies won't provide such things now, and call them evil. The costs are going to eat us alive.

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

Actually the military is run by people who have served in the military, gone through military, schools, colleges,  and academy's, and have earned their rank.

It is overseen by the government, and elected officials, who may or may not have served a single day of their lives in uniform. (McDonald's don't count for you liberal arts majors[;)]).

So the fallacy of the military being run well by the government, is just that, a fallacy, and a total bullshit argument.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Do bureaucracies ever shrink themselves? Do politicians ever cut entitlement programs? No, they continuously expand, and as a nation we're teetering on the brink of insolvency right now.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Nonsense. What happened to co-pays? Or that elective surgery isn't covered?

Or that homeless people now don't go to homeless shelters. Why are hospitals more attractive?

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ORIGINAL: Marini

Thanks for the laughs, Sanity.
lol
 
gasoline powered alarm clock? 
too bad you couldn't find a picture of that.
 
space heater with a feather duster and fly strips attached?
 
rofl, thanks again.

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

You mean like how welfare was expanded during the Clinton administration so that the welfare caseload dropped by 50%?

BTW, the last I saw if you're uninsured you buy insurance, I haven't seen anywhere that you get free care.  

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ORIGINAL: Marini

[sm=LMAO.gif]
OMG!
LMAO ROFL

Thank you!

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


From the "Your Government At Work" department -

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Phony products impress federal energy program

WASHINGTON – Fifteen phony products — including a gasoline-powered alarm clock — won a label from the government certifying them as energy efficient in a test of the federal "Energy Star" program.

Investigators concluded the program is "vulnerable to fraud and abuse." A report released Friday said government investigators tried to pass off 20 fake products as energy efficient, and only two were rejected. Three others didn't get a response. The program run by the Energy Department and Environmental Protection Agency is supposed to identify energy-efficient products to help consumers. Tax credits and rebates serve as incentives to buy Energy Star products.

But the General Accountability Office, Congress' investigative arm, said Energy Star doesn't verify claims made by manufacturers — which might explain the gasoline-powered alarm clock, not to mention a product billed as an air room cleaner that was actually a space heater with a feather duster and fly strips attached, and a computer monitor that won approval within 30 minutes of submission.

The alarm clock's size — 1 1/2-feet high and 15 inches wide — and model name "Black Gold" should have raised alarms with Energy Star, but the automated review system didn't catch on to the deception.

"EPA officials confirmed that because the energy-efficiency information was plausible, it was likely that no one read the product description information," GAO said.

Full article at http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100326/ap_on_bi_ge/us_energy_star_fraud

These are the same people who are going to take over your health care?


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Space heater with feather duster

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ORIGINAL: Brain


Obviously that is what they mean by the placebo effect.  Nothing new, it happens in medicine all the time. You can find it when you do a clinical trial.

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I can't imagine MM defending this representation of the government if this came to light during the Bush Administration. But because it happened under Obama this represents government efficiency.

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no faith in seeing any cooperation coming in the foreseeable future which will turn things around

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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I can't imagine MM defending this representation of the government if this came to light during the Bush Administration. But because it happened under Obama this represents government efficiency.

Nice try, but I did no such thing.

I did call Sanity on a few of his excesses.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

By this argument, how can they be trusted to run a military?
Shall we disband it immediately?

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
So Bush "dubya" was the tremendous military mind that proclaimed that Sadam was linked to 9-11? Off to war we went.

What were his tremendous military credentials?

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
So Bush "dubya" was the tremendous military mind that proclaimed that Sadam was linked to 9-11? Off to war we went.

What were his tremendous military credentials?

He was elected President of the United States...Twice.

That gives him all the military credentials he needed.

p.s. there's 2 d's in Saddam not 1

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
Then why did he fuck up so badly? Dope.

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
Then why did he fuck up so badly? Dope.

You really are just an angry white nerd idolizing an angry dead guy, aren't you.

Come on tough guy, lets stick it to "the Man" together.

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

Good night all - this thread was an amusing bedtime read.