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ownedgirlie -> RE: Cum on command (4/6/2006 10:52:07 AM)

twicehappy, great links.  BESTslavetraining and steel-door are sites i have always thought highly of.




acctonthelook -> RE: Cum on command (4/6/2006 11:01:41 AM)

Ok, Ok, Ok...
 
I'M FOLDING...Game over for me...I get it now!
 
For anyone not seeing my thank you post to Twicehappy - Look on page 5 of the thread!
 
Thanks to everyone!  Really all of it is appreciated!
Wheewww!




ownedgirlie -> RE: Cum on command (4/6/2006 11:06:53 AM)

i am glad you're happy.  Any time you wish to apologize for calling me a fake and gullible, i will be glad to accept it.




acctonthelook -> RE: Cum on command (4/6/2006 11:13:25 AM)

I am sorry for upseting you or anyone.  I may not always word something right, but it's always coming from something I just don't understand.  I also push limits way too far sometimes.  This is why I identify with being a sub and I think with the right dom moving towards slavery.  Just a feeling.
 
I am sorry.  Please accept my apology!




ownedgirlie -> RE: Cum on command (4/6/2006 11:16:13 AM)

Thank you.  i do accept your apology.  i was not upset, but the idea of ridiculing someone for something one does not understand can actually hurt someone who may have had difficulty posting something so intimate.

Thank you for the apology. [:)]




twicehappy -> RE: Cum on command (4/6/2006 11:24:03 AM)

ROFLMAO,  You are welcome, we do tend to get a bit intense here. I f you like you can always shoot me an email.




acctonthelook -> RE: Cum on command (4/6/2006 11:45:43 AM)

LOL, I was getting SO FRUSTRATED with the whole idea of it that I could not see my way thru the fog and you truly helped bring the sun out for me!  Your so patient.  I can only hope to emulate that someday!
 
With Love!




BitaTruble -> RE: Cum on command (4/6/2006 12:03:43 PM)

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Before a woman reaches an orgasm, their body becomes increasingly excited. Breathing, heart rate and blood pressure increases. The pupils of the eyes dilate; the lips of the mouth darken, the nipples become erect, the clitoris swells, becomes hard and exposed, (much like the aroused penis). With increased excitement, the skin becomes flushed and it begins to sweat. In women, the labia, clitoris, vagina and pelvic organs enlarge in very much the same way as the aroused penis enlarges.

Orgasm is the point at which all the tension is suddenly released in a series of involuntary and pleasurable muscular contractions that may be felt in the vagina and/or uterus.

The orgasm happens when excitement seems to go over the edge -- a climax or crescendo is reached which may last several seconds or longer. During orgasm the body stiffens and the muscles contract. Involuntary muscle contractions and spasms may occur in various parts of the body, including your legs, stomach, arms, and back. The muscles of the vagina relax and contract rapidly, as do the muscles of the uterus. The glands of the vagina (Bartholin's glands) discharge a watery secretion, (in certain women this can be quite copious, these individuals are commonly known as squirters) which acts to lubricate the vagina.

Not every woman will experience all of these physical reactions; most will experience at least some of them in varying degrees of intensity.






When you cut and paste directly from another source, you should include the link to the entire article and/or give credit to the author.  Otherwise, one might think you actually wrote that yourself.

Female Orgasm

Celeste




TNstepsout -> RE: Cum on command (4/6/2006 12:19:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: acctonthelook

Ok, Ok, Ok...
 
I'M FOLDING...Game over for me...I get it now!
 
For anyone not seeing my thank you post to Twicehappy - Look on page 5 of the thread!
 
Thanks to everyone!  Really all of it is appreciated!
Wheewww!


Well, if it's any consolation I'm with you on this one. I just don't buy it. Not that I think anyone is lying, I just don't think what they are experiencing is a physiological orgasm. Maybe they can work themselves into a state in which they can experience the mental equivalent of an orgasm, but I doubt it comes with all of the physical responses.




twicehappy -> RE: Cum on command (4/6/2006 12:29:35 PM)

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When you cut and paste directly from another source, you should include the link to the entire article and/or give credit to the author.  Otherwise, one might think you actually wrote that yourself.


Actually i was a nurse for 18 years and most of that came from an old Master's and Johnson text i studied. It appears your source is quoting them also. Sorry for any misrepresentation or misunderstanding on that point though.




akisha -> RE: Cum on command (4/6/2006 12:44:19 PM)

When one cums on command it's not goign to be the same screaming gasping dig your nails into the headbord kind of orgasm you have when your in the middle of sex or play. For one the stimulation isn't thereto produce that kind of result (and well if you can, god bless you *grins*) i have never faked an orgasm for anyone. can't be bothered.

It's not fair to say all the subs/slaves are faking. depending on the state of arousal will depend on how deep ones reaction will be to the command.  Hell just talking to my Master had me excited. His voice, His smell even just sititng thinking about Him through out the day would get my motor running. LOL maybe i'm just easy. And i have a very active and vivid mind, which really helps too.

But just because it's never happend for you does not mean it is not reality for others.

Like the one girl said, she doesn't like it, it's painful and unfulfilling. Every reaction is different. No one is less of a sub or slave if they can't, or a better one cause they can. We are individuals not dolls to say "well His doll can do this why can't mine." That's ridiculous.

i've seen guys instantly hard and dripping from nothing but a suggestion of what i'd like to do to them. LOL it's all in the mind, and heck, i'm not even the one in control *smiles*





BitaTruble -> RE: Cum on command (4/6/2006 1:31:39 PM)

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Actually i was a nurse for 18 years and most of that came from an old Master's and Johnson text i studied. It appears your source is quoting them also. Sorry for any misrepresentation or misunderstanding on that point though.


Yes, they have a disclaimer in place, but thank you for clearing things up. :)

Celeste




babygirlangel -> RE: Cum on command (4/7/2006 8:28:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: acctonthelook

LOL, I was getting SO FRUSTRATED with the whole idea of it that I could not see my way thru the fog and you truly helped bring the sun out for me!  Your so patient.  I can only hope to emulate that someday!
 
With Love!


being one who cant cum with a partner, i completely understand how you feel... i thought for a long time that people might've just been saying they had this wonderful experience.. and im talking about JUST cumming with a partner, not coc... if i hadnt been able to cum alone i wouldnt have believed it at all.. ever...




KnightofMists -> RE: Cum on command (4/7/2006 8:55:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
But it's not the lack of orgasm that's the PROBLEM- it's the pressure to orgasm and not being open to communicate that's the problem.  The fact that the woman feels any pressure to orgasm and a pressure to fake it shows a huge problem with the entire thing right there.


This is indeed the Key Block to success  - PRESSURE... to many put way to much pressure on the act... both on themselves and by their Dominants.  Orgasms are indeed really exciting hot and all those things.  But way to often people think it is the cake instead of the icying.  I don't know about you... but to me a cake that tastes like icying is just waaay to sweet!  Let it flow from the relationship and the natural interaction between two people.  Do not try to push water up hill... you will loose every time!




Prunesquallor -> RE: Cum on command (4/7/2006 9:12:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twicehappy


-- a climax or crescendo is reached



[Pendantry]  The two words, 'climax' and 'crescendo' mean almost the opposite.  [/Pedantry]




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Cum on command (4/7/2006 9:34:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Prunesquallor
[Pendantry]  The two words, 'climax' and 'crescendo' mean almost the opposite.  [/Pedantry]


You want pedantic?

Crescendo is a slow/gradual rising, usually referenced in sound.  Climax is simply the point of greatest or culminating energy.  Agreed that the words "crescendo" and "climax" do not seem to naturally sit well together, and certainly aren't synonyms, they don't seem to be antonyms either.  A climax can occur from and reach the point of most intensity slowly.  Not to mention, a climax at a particular time/scene can be a point of crescendo into a different climax later on.

Thanks for the pedantic distraction :)




DelightMachine -> RE: Cum on command (4/12/2006 3:33:48 PM)

My Mistress, Cloutz, sent me an email from a submissive she knows who was trained to cum on command. She directed me to post it here (at least I can post on command):

i believe that first some subs can do this and some cannot. the sub needs to have a good imagination and in some ways cumming on command is the learned flip side of not cumming when you are told not to do so,
i was trained to masturbate in front of a Mistress for  extended periods of time and bring myself to the edge over and over so that i learned the pre cumming sensation. i mean close to cumming 5 to 10 times and then inform your Mistress that you are close and she tells you to STOP.
once i knew that point prior to "spasming" -which is when you lose control. Then i knew the 'sensation' or "feeling" that i wanted to achieve that was close, but just before orgasm.
Cumming on command is similar except that you have to get a least relatively close to cumming and then have the slave visualize one or two sensual images in his mind that really gets him/her off. He tells you his ultimate cum fantasy - example - eating his Mistress, golden shower, rimming, licking up his own cum, being pentrated, being verbally humiliated, etc
Once he knows what these are he can bring them to mind (or you can) when you tell him to cum. and then that image excites the sub to the point that he cums on your command.
The one caveat here is that each sub will need a different amount of time masturbating at least to the point that he/she is stimulated.
Now some subs just cannot and that is just who they are.




MasterCoyote -> RE: Cum on command (4/12/2006 7:55:03 PM)

So far, I have taught 2 girls to do this.  One of the two can only do it for me - the other I'm not sure of.

From my experiences - it takes a lot of getting insode someone's head.  There's probably other ways - but that's my preferred method.




feastie -> RE: Cum on command (4/15/2006 5:41:12 AM)

Ok...so this girl is new, never been trained...and she's having orgasms because you've said "come" on the phone or typed it?

I have a really big bridge in California I think you'd be interested in, let's talk ;)

I agree that orgasm on demand can be taught, I just don't believe this chick is being honest.




RiotGirl -> RE: Cum on command (4/15/2006 12:07:12 PM)

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Orgasms are indeed really exciting hot and all those things. But way to often people think it is the cake instead of the icying. I don't know about you... but to me a cake that tastes like icying is just waaay to sweet! Let it flow from the relationship and the natural interaction between two people. Do not try to push water up hill... you will loose every time!


i agree with you Knight.  Pressure sucks and tends to ruin things.  i also agree about the cake/icing thing.  Cumming with a partner i honestly care less about.  Its not the reason for the act.  Its the act its self.  A few ppl on here mentioned that just "cumming" out the blue sucks.. so imagine what its like with out the act in there. 

Personally i think its most likely virtually impossible for me.  Wish i could.. but i doubt it.  As another poster put, its almost a post hypnotic suggestion and i do believe that.  Barely easy to hypnotize me - and once under any suggestions given really have no effect.  i'm like do da - lets go back to something interesting. 

Plus i honestly dont think i'd willingly let anyone have that kind of control over me. Not one to say "sure you're welcome here in my subconscious.. have at it"  LOL  i'm sure eventually with enough trust.. its prolly why i see it as impossible. 

to let some one in your subconscious brain, willingly, takes more trust then i knew exsisted.  Just imagine what they could do to you....

Cum on command? 

You could be told to cum on command driving.. have an accident
Cum on command infront of your boss.. possibly get you fired
Neighbors house in mid conversation.. get black balled from the neighborhood
After being pulled over and talking to a cop..

yeaaaaaaaaaaah i can see tons of ways where giving some one that sort of control and power over you could possibly lead to some really negative life altering changes.  Possibly.. and you really want to "possibly" give some one the ability to do that to you?




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