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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/7/2010 12:43:34 PM   
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The art center is the not for profit. The gift shop is not. We get no government subsidy (quite the opposite, we pay taxes).

So without the "Art Center" which is the non profit. the gift shop would sell to whom? The "Art Center" is the pimp for the gift shop. It is not like this scam has not been used before.

Is this how your mother taught you to speak?


I learned to speak that way from dealing with arrogant people like yourself.

I am arrogant for pointing out an obvious fact?
Marky you are taking yourself way too seriously.


As for "pimp" and "scam", I've seen those exact same words used in reference to the exact same subject. You're not Hunter S., are you.

It is not a very well kept secret that I am Hunter S. Thompson (rumors of my death have been greatly exagerated)


Well it doesn't matter. Listening to your egotistical little mind prattle on about things you are utterly clueless about is one thing but when you start insulting my family, as well as many other good and decent people, without cause - that's another.


Oh my "rightious indignation"  too kewel.

Converse with you is in vain - you are to much in love with your own ego - and I will not further demean myself by having any further converse with you.

Goodbye.

I hope you grow up some day.

Yeah...like that might happen sometime before pigs learn to fly. 





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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/7/2010 12:55:22 PM   
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Congress does this every day. In the most recent example, this Health Bill, against the will of many, if not the majority. They are taking tax money and deciding who deserves it more than the people they took it from.


Yes they do, it's called taxation and it provides us with all kinds of wonderful things we could not afford separately.

Or maybe we should start an independent fund to build our roads and bridges, pay for police and fire protection, etc..

But then we would have to find someone to administer the money in that fund.

Hmmm!

I wonder how we can go about doing that.


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RE: One Doctor's Response - 4/7/2010 1:18:21 PM   
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Any counsel I give is to not rely on anyone - in particular the government. It makes people lazy and expecting more entitlements for doing less and results in rewarding failure.

Yet this is exactly what you do.  You preach one thing but do the very thing you rail against.  You have your nose burried in the public trough and at the same time you pimp the line that the government is ...yadda yadda yadda.
You do know the meaning of the word hypocrite?
Why are you like that?
Why is it ok for you to be sucking on the public tit but you cop attitude when someone else does?



Seriously, though, just press the 'quote' button like the rest of us. It's easier to read.

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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/7/2010 2:38:39 PM   
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Balance is the key. Don't lock it all up and don't strip mine everything.

Right now the extreme environmentalists hold too much sway and its costing too many jobs and harming the overall economy.


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one thing I don't get about you. you live out there in God's country. you are standing in front of a giant world record sequoia. Yet you are against policies that protect our environment.

Drill baby drill. I would think that you would want to be a great steward of the planet and be willing to pay a little more at the pump to protect the wild places that you seem to enjoy.


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RE: One Doctor's Response - 4/7/2010 4:29:23 PM   
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Seriously, though, just press the 'quote' button like the rest of us. It's easier to read.

Seriously though this way uses less bandwidth

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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/7/2010 4:31:47 PM   
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Balance is the key. Don't lock it all up and don't strip mine everything.

Right now the extreme environmentalists hold too much sway and its costing too many jobs and harming the overall economy.

What would you lock up and what would you allow to be utilized?

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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/8/2010 4:19:09 AM   
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In this, and in many threads, I see there are people for whom the need to be right supercedes their desire to be happy.

As in illustration.  Two people could see in the distance a dark spot in the snow.  One says it is a frozen lake and the dark spot is a hole in the ice.  The other insists it's a boulder in the snow.  Points out the curve but irregular shape and goes on and on about their skills and knowledge of geology.  When that person falls into the hole in the ice they will insist it was the boulder that caused it.  They will not admit to anyone else having a valid position even if it is against their own best interest.

There are people who are mentally retarded.  We would be the worst kind of people to belittle them for their disabilities.  And then there are people who are spiritually retarded.  The best thing to do when one encounters such people is to understand how fortunate one is to not have such a disability themselves and move on.

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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/8/2010 9:26:06 AM   
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Opinion 9.012 - Physicians' Political Communications with Patients and Their Families
Physicians enjoy the rights and privileges of free political speech shared by all Americans. It is laudable for physicians to run for political office; to lobby for political positions, parties or candidates; and in every other way to exercise the full scope of their political rights as citizens. These rights may be exercised individually or through involvement with organizations such as professional societies and political action committees.



I whole heartedly agree with this.

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In addition, physicians have a responsibility to work for the reform of, and to press for the proper administration of, laws that are related to health care. Physicians should keep themselves well-informed as to current political questions regarding needed and proposed changes to laws concerning such issues as access to health care, quality of health care services, scope of medical research, and promotion of public health.


I agree with this too. However, in the case of Dr Cassel, he has not kept himself well informed.


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It is natural that in fulfilling these political responsibilities, physicians will express their views to patients or their families. However, communications by telephone or other modalities with patients and their families about political matters must be conducted with the utmost sensitivity to patients’ vulnerability and desire for privacy. Conversations about political matters are not appropriate at times when patients or families are emotionally pressured by significant medical circumstances. Physicians are best able to judge both the intrusiveness of the discussion and the patient’s level of comfort. In general, when conversation with the patient or family concerning social, civic, or recreational matters is acceptable, discussion of items of political import may be appropriate.


I do hope i dont have to interpret this section.

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Under no circumstances should physicians allow their differences with patients or their families about political matters to interfere with the delivery of high-quality professional care. (I, VII)


This is the section everyone is having issues with. His differences with certain patients is allowed to take the forefront of his health care practice.

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Report: Issued June 1999 based on the report "Physicians' Political Communications with Patients and Their Families," adopted December 1998.


http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physician-resources/medical-ethics/code-medical-ethics/opinion9012.shtml

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RE: One Doctor's Response - 4/8/2010 9:31:46 AM   
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Your getting better Tax, only two things make this irrelevant

It's an opinion...
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Opinion 9.012


It is dated and outside the context of current reality.
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Report: Issued June 1999 based on the report "Physicians' Political Communications with Patients and Their Families," adopted December 1998.


Go back a bit further and you can get in the AMA's opinion on house calls; similarly off-point and relevant.

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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/8/2010 10:02:16 AM   
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One other point from the AMA.

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E-9.12 Patient-Physician Relationship: Respect for Law and Human Rights



The creation of the patient-physician relationship is contractual in nature. Generally, both the physician and the patient are free to enter into or decline the relationship. A physician may decline to undertake the care of a patient whose medical condition is not within the physician's current competence. However, physicians who offer their services to the public may not decline to accept patients because of race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender identity, or any other basis that would constitute invidious discrimination. Furthermore, physicians who are obligated under pre-existing contractual arrangements may not decline to accept patients as provided by those arrangements. (I, III, V, VI) Issued July 1986. Updated June 1994 and June 2008 based on the report "Modification of Ethics Policy to Ensure Inclusion for Transgender Physicians, Medical Students, and Patients," adopted November 2007.


https://ssl3.ama-assn.org/apps/ecomm/PolicyFinderForm.pl?site=www.ama-assn.org&uri=/ama1/pub/upload/mm/PolicyFinder/policyfiles/HnE/E-9.12.HTM

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Invidious discrimination generally refers to treating one group of people less well than another on such grounds as their race (racism), gender (sexism), religion (religious discrimination), height, ethnic background, national origin, disability, sexual orientation, preference or behavior, results of iq testing, age or political views.

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Discrimination



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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/8/2010 10:31:54 AM   
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There are opinions from people sitting on the dais putting on a good politically correct front, counting the money they made from the stock opinions recommended when they knew the pharmaceutical companies and other health care sector stocks would rise as they did after the latest corporate welfare program was implemented, and then there are people doing the work, in particular the cutters.

The surgeons and anesthesiologists aren't too happy. They may not have signs on their doors, and besides under anesthesia, you won't even get to see the sign going into the operating room.
Surgeons, by and large, had urged the House to vote down the healthcare legislation that it ultimately approved on March 21. A coalition of 23 medical societies representing 240,000 surgeons and anesthesiologists sent a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) shortly before the vote, stating that the bill failed to build a solid foundation for reform. Signatories included the American College of Surgeons, the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, the American Association of Orthopaedic Surgeons, and the American Urological Association.

Some of the major discontents of this coalition were shared by the AMA and other societies that had rallied behind the legislation. The absence of a repeal of the notorious sustainable growth rate formula, which led to a 21.2% Medicare pay cut on April 1, ranked high on the list, as did the creation of an Independent Payment Advisory Board for Medicare that critics consider unaccountable for its decisions. Other gripes were the lack of any major tort reform, such as caps on pain-and-suffering damages in malpractice cases, and penalties for physicians who do not participate in Medicare's Physician Quality Reporting Initiative.

Although the AMA and its allies vowed to work with Congress to correct these sins of omission and commission, the surgical societies concluded that the cons of healthcare reform outweighed the pros, and lobbied against the legislation.

It's one thing to have your urethra poked by a disgruntled doctor, it's another to have one cutting you, or responsible for you coming around from anesthesia, to be pissed for government implemented compensation for their work. A surgeon taking a 'short cut' isn't an ideal source of care.

Applying the smallest percentage to disgruntled doctors, one is enough to kill you if he's yours. Most likely he won't be posting a sign.

PS - Taz, of all the people swearing to never respond to me and/or my posts and threads - you, by far, are the most prolific liar!

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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/8/2010 12:10:16 PM   
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The AMA is not reflective of doctors' sentiment generally. Just because you've heard of it, doesn't make it mainstream.

For one, the AMA have always historically opposed medicare -- you know, the only U.S. medical plan that actually works -- feel free to go watch the videos they made against the program, using the same socialistic rhetoric that the least informed among us use today.

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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/9/2010 3:23:27 PM   
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Can you point me to the relevant US or WV law? That would be most helpful, because otherwise, when/if I go back in the biz I am specifically advertising to hire Republicans.

Yeah, didn't think so.

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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/9/2010 3:28:27 PM   
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Thank you tazzy. I strongly suspect you did something really unusual- your own research.

I wish you would do your own research on the defintion of "natural born citizen". Please inc the importance of Law of Nations by Vattel, and Marbury v, Madison. The first thing you will find is that, contrary to all the "common wisdom" NBC has never been defined by the Courts.

Or you'll find something I can't. Which is entirely possible, of course.

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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/9/2010 3:57:06 PM   
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NBC has never been defined by the Courts.

neither has fucking dumb ass but most people know what it means.

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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/9/2010 4:21:08 PM   
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You do realize that only a minority of doctors are AMA members?

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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/9/2010 4:24:44 PM   
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NBC has never been defined by the Courts.

neither has fucking dumb ass but most people know what it means.


Another post rising to your usual level of thoughfulness and research.

At least you didn't do what the truly stupid do: furnish cases defining mere citizenship; I'll give you that.

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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/9/2010 5:09:10 PM   
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You do realize that only a minority of doctors are AMA members?


Who certifies med schools?

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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/9/2010 5:11:05 PM   
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NBC has never been defined by the Courts.

neither has fucking dumb ass but most people know what it means.


Another post rising to your usual level of thoughfulness and research.


Are you going to tell us what you feel NBC means or are you going to keep us in suspense?

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RE: One Doctor's Resonse - 4/9/2010 8:33:22 PM   
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Thank you tazzy. I strongly suspect you did something really unusual- your own research.

I wish you would do your own research on the defintion of "natural born citizen". Please inc the importance of Law of Nations by Vattel, and Marbury v, Madison. The first thing you will find is that, contrary to all the "common wisdom" NBC has never been defined by the Courts.

Or you'll find something I can't. Which is entirely possible, of course.


I always do my own research. Which is why its easy for me to pick out the idiots on these kinds of threads. To answer your question about a natural born citizen (NBC in your posts) my answer is this link...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp?print=y

Now, unless you have proof Obama was not born in Hawaii, then he is a NBC and entitled to be President.


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