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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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its doubtful anyone will notice it.

Not in a sense they go OMG what a change.

What will change is the court system mostly.

That and the only line of defense from a runaway government is  the 4th branch of government is the "Peoples Grand Jury".  These are jury members who are unpaid, not jury for hire registered on dunn and braddstreet as a thriving business entity making shit loads of money processing violations and infractions like farting in public et al

Why do you keep peddling this thoroughly debunked drivel?

There has never been any such thing as "Peoples Grand Juries" they are not part of common law and certainly exist no where in the civil or criminal code. What these traitors are doing is trying to hold a coup and they're hoping the rest of us just go along.

Note that this is the same bullsjit the freeman movement tried back in the late 90's. They got famous for trying to enforce liens their "ourts" had imposed.

BTW I've been searching and would appreciate any info, there have been claims that active duty military personel acted as the so called provost marshalls that delivered this groups demands. Has anyone seen any evidence that this is so?

Never?

How the hell you think this country was created?

Debunked?  ou should consider finding yourself a new buzz word after all you conspiracy theorists fell on your asses and got your noses wiped in it with 911.

If you want to propaggrandize you must practice not being so obvious about it and when you try to throw shit at the wall hoping will stick at least have some to throw.

Otherwise I found your post hilarious since below is what its all about!

TRAITORS TO WHAT KEN?

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These public servants have a choice: Swear an OATH to support the U.S. Constitution OR be replaced immediately or even Arrested. Any failure on their part to comply after 72 hours is considered to be an act of TREASON.

Backed by the provost marshals, this is CM parlor talk, but it does remove any doubt which side of the fence you are on.

I have no fucking idea what you just said.

Do you?

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hahaha.  greeting to the City of London!!!

I don't know PA, you two seem to speak the same language so maybe you can translate.

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City of London

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hahaha.  greeting to the City of London!!!

I don't know PA, you two seem to speak the same language so maybe you can translate.

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These public servants have a choice: Swear an OATH to support the U.S. Constitution OR be replaced immediately or even Arrested. Any failure on their part to comply after 72 hours is considered to be an act of TREASON.

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

It's kind of fascinating, like a train wreck is, to watch pahunk and realone exist in their own little bubble universe, quite divorced from reality.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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hahaha.  greeting to the City of London!!!

I don't know PA, you two seem to speak the same language so maybe you can translate.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

well you need to understand how the government was created, its covenants, obligations, and a fairly good understanding of the us code.

Its not to late to get started you know.

yeh of course I understand.  Its just sad so few others understand.

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Like I said its all fraud.

they dont remotely follow the rules

here is one of my favorites.

Tells a big story you know

•Terminate illicit corporations posing as legitimate governments, in particular the territorial jurisdiction United States Federal Corporation (corp. ref. 28 U.S.C. 3002) posing as the de jure United States of America.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London

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ken it wasnt secretly replaced by a corporation.

It wasnt replaced at all.

The corporation was made in plain view of everyone.  Maybe it was a secret to you but not those of us in the know.  No secret there, it works exactly the same way as 911.  Done in plain view and the greater population has no clu what they saw then with the overthrow by a corp any more than the greater population recognized that 911 was a demo.

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ken it wasnt secretly replaced by a corporation.

It wasnt replaced at all.

The corporation was made in plain view of everyone.  Maybe it was a secret to you but not those of us in the know.  No secret there, it works exactly the same way as 911.  Done in plain view and the greater population has no clu what they saw then with the overthrow by a corp any more than the greater population recognized that 911 was a demo.

So really Real, how did you get to be "in the know"?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London

Yes, and your point being what?

That the Queen controls the world and we have never achieved independence?

I think there was a war somewhere involved in that which might prove you wrong.

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ken it wasnt secretly replaced by a corporation.

It wasnt replaced at all.

The corporation was made in plain view of everyone.  Maybe it was a secret to you but not those of us in the know.  No secret there, it works exactly the same way as 911.  Done in plain view and the greater population has no clu what they saw then with the overthrow by a corp any more than the greater population recognized that 911 was a demo.

So really Real, how did you get to be "in the know"?

The only people who can ever be in the know are people who do not have an agenda and seek out the truth.  Anyone with an agenda is forever lost.

This is history in the making, according that write up grand juries in every state! woohoo!

Oh and backed by the provost marshal!  Now thats some serious shit!  It also at that point goes without saying that they have standing in the law. 

I do have to laugh at these people who would call those who force the public officials to actually take the oath to uphold the constitution as required by law traitors.  It really makes you wonder?

ps: the latest I have heard is that some judges are stepping down from the bench because they recognize whats around the corner for them.

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Evenin,

well I did not post either of the threads on the subject but I am well informed on the topic and did explain it accordingly.  So I am not "pushing it" as such unless you mean that my views agree with "The Rule of Law" rather than the abuses that are going on in the trust and debtor creditor world with these invisible contracts.  For instance by the time they get done hypothecating a lousy traffic ticket they will hypothecate it up to 2 million bucks.   Its all about money not justice, they want your money, that was the sole reason for the patriot act.

The problem is that the better people behave the more they have to impose on and into peoples lives to fuel the system.  Its just history repeating itself....

Its really a lot easier to get them to take their oath and put it on record because that is a pure clear cut violation of the public trust that even people who have zippo understanding of the law can immediately connect with.   Trying to get them out when they violate your rights in office has a huge delay (for governors) by the time you run it through court and ......... 

Judges are the most important imo, because they can and do collude to dismiss evidence for your defense.  If you are fighting another party not related to the government then you might get a fair hearing but anytime you go up against the government they stack that deck so high against you that you cant see the top.

Militia?

I think you are confused with another thread.  This about fighting with pen and paper and with backing from the existing provost marshal.  Be careful about what ron says because he enjoys completely mischaracterizing issues that run contrary to the fraudulent government we now enjoy that does not understand the word "re-present".

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The "sovereign citizen" movement is a loosely organized collection of groups and individuals who have adopted a right-wing anarchist ideology originating in the theories of a group called the Posse Comitatus in the 1970s. Its adherents believe that virtually all existing government in the United States is illegitimate and they seek to "restore" an idealized, minimalist government that never actually existed. To this end, sovereign citizens wage war against the government and other forms of authority using "paper terrorism" harassment and intimidation tactics, and occasionally resorting to violence.

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The "sovereign citizen" movement is a loosely organized collection of groups and individuals who have adopted a right-wing anarchist ideology originating in the theories of a group called the Posse Comitatus in the 1970s. Its adherents believe that virtually all existing government in the United States is illegitimate and they seek to "restore" an idealized, minimalist government that never actually existed. To this end, sovereign citizens wage war against the government and other forms of authority using "paper terrorism" harassment and intimidation tactics, and occasionally resorting to violence.

Just curious, what part of their beliefs makes them a "right-wing" group?