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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

you talking about me?

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Judges also have a really bad habit of throwing out evidence against criminals because of civil rights violations Term.

Of course the real news here is that not one of the sitting governors have stepped down, thus effectively putting the group that sent these letters in the position of looking like fools.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"Judges are the most important imo, because they can and do collude to dismiss evidence for your defense."

Now you've done it, made me do a jumpthrough. That is exactly the reason for what I said, when fighting them you must carefully consider which evidence is filed and which simply goes to court, what is to be made public before the fact and what is to be sprung in a trial.

They are literally gagged and dont count at all in a common law tribunal.

You need to see the bigger picture. First of all they are going to use real law on people who follow no law ? What's more they are going to require an oath ? Get real (no pun).

I doubt these people even have a clue what you are talking about after that thread on travel vs driving.

An oath means nothing to these people, and what's more under any law of any color if an oath is forced it is anvalid as it was taken under threat, duress or coersion. You have read those words before correct ?

Those governors already took an oath, whether it means anything or not. You think another oath is going to cure all ills ? That's insanity because it is taking the same course and expecting a different outcome. An oath means nothing. Why would another oath carry any weight ?

Term literally no one in the state of florida as a prime example has taken the official oath to the constitution on record.

Even the money power can't keep these people in line, and they know they could be squished like a bug. So just how much respect you think "our" oath is going to get ?

The swearing in on the bible is for the most part no longer used as attorneys can now lie in court and if it is missed or remains unrefuted it stands as truth!  Its a seriously sick fucking system and no justice.

They are trying to use law against the lawless.

Note everybody that most of what Real says is true. A few errors here and there but largely derived from the law. However what I am saying is that it doesn't matter. Dishonoring the dishonorable is a waste of time.

You get them on fraud using their own laws that they use against us and take their stuff, that wakes them up.

And if they refuse to take this other oath, whether it means a damn thing or not, how would we get them to leave office ?

the provost marshall

Surely you don't think a bunch of people are going up to the state capital building and the governors are just going to walk out the door to meet with their own fate, possibly summary beheadment ? Anyone who thinks that is going to happen should just go color.

They were given the option to take the de jure oath as required by law, step down, or be arrested and removed by the standing provost marshal, (get it lucky?), for many things treason for starters.

What's more these folk are not all that good at picking their battles. Our biggest problems lie at the federal level. Doing the math, if we were to insist on specific performance and adherence to the law, we have to direct our resouces to what is the most effective and more importantly what has a better chance of success.

Depends on which folks you are talking about.

Keep in mind we are the self governed and we created the government therefore we have the right to change or remove it.  There are no constitutional provisions for what they, (the government) is trying to do.

This was in response to ohaha's attempt to sign treaties forever removing any remnants to the claim of sovereignty this country still has left.

There are now 50 peoples unenfranchised (unpaid by any corporation) grand juries in all 50 states up and beginning operations, which is exactly what existed and created this country in the first place.  They trump the corporate grand juries and pursuant to the 5th and 7th the corporate courts et al, including scotus cannot overrule their determinations.  Its a great day in the history of this country that the people are becoming so well informed in law.

So doing the math we got 435 congressmen, 100 senators. There are only 50 governors. What kind of odds would you take ?

What's more, just what happens after these governors step out the door and recieve their invitation to the guillotine ? Who is to replace them ? You got someone in mind ? So our guy is just going to sit in the chair and then do what ? Incidentally our guy sitting in the chair would be by definition a dictator installed by a coup. The government has every right to defend itself against such things, but let's just disregard that. Uh huh.

HOW?  There is no defense for them. Zippo!

Either they take their oath of office and once they do we the people can enforce the law upon them or we the people take everything they and their families will ever have. 

Not to mention treason to the constitution matter.

I have nothing against those people, in fact they are trying to do something good. But they are going about it in the wrong way.

There is more at stake here thana even you apparently realize.  This country is by enlarge ready to pick up arms and that is a blood bath no sane person wants to see.

People who listen to MSM are none the wiser as you see very little and when you do they are nut cases, but those nut cases all have guns and they know as you know this government has an epidemic of tyranny and corruption.

This is all according to the law and imo those who would condemn their actions are traitors.


Just like the people with the liens about a decade ago, I knew those people and was very dubious of their plans. I just didn't think they were going to get the results they wanted and I was right. But it was a good venue for study and I learned a few tricks. I just never got into the pretense that we could undo centuries of corruption.

T

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I dont know what planet you are on Real, but not a single governor has retaken an oath of office, stepped down, or done anything other than to turn the letters over to their security and police forces. Researching the story extensively, I cant find any evidence that anyone has taken these letters seriously.

You might as well face reality, these letters achieved nothing.

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

So if nothing happens by the 30th will you go away?

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Do you remotely understand what a "time frame" is?

Lets see march 30 +30 is april 30 last time I checked.

That and you really think the democracy is going to advertise the republic.

You really make me laugh sometimes.

I guess I am going ot have to stop picking on  a turn on mees now that I hear several of them have jumped on board.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Now I have no idea what to make of that......coming fromanother poster I would simply chalk that up to sarcasm....coming from him,I'm not so sure.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

They had three days to comply with the letters. Not thirty.