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ORIGINAL: kinkyfetishlife
Ok, why? Is she not free to leave? As I said above, I understand this may be difficult, heartbreaking, all of the emotions you would expect when a relationship such as that ends, but she is in the relationship by choice.

• Carol does not choose to submit. She approaches her entire life from a submissive mindset. It is how she processes her reality. She is not of the "I submit to only one" ilk. She just is submissive.
  
• In that same way, I do not choose to dominate. It is not something I do within the context of my sex life or my marriage. It is just how i view the world.
  
• We have been in a loving, nurturing, mutually supportive relationship for 15 years now. During those years, a great deal of trust, respect, love and similar things have been built up.
  

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ORIGINAL: leadership527
I would say this indicates a real lack of understanding of the potential for M/s.

Ok, why? Is she not free to leave? As I said above, I understand this may be difficult, heartbreaking, all of the emotions you would expect when a relationship such as that ends, but she is in the relationship by choice.

My lack of understanding is a fact and the reason for the post.

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I totally understand submissives, actually, there seem to be more submissives than Dominants, I understand why this is.

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ORIGINAL: kinkyfetishlife

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ORIGINAL: leadership527
I would say this indicates a real lack of understanding of the potential for M/s.

Ok, why? Is she not free to leave? As I said above, I understand this may be difficult, heartbreaking, all of the emotions you would expect when a relationship such as that ends, but she is in the relationship by choice.

My lack of understanding is a fact and the reason for the post.

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ORIGINAL: kinkyfetishlife
I understand the need to be a slave, the calling, who you are and all of that, same with being submissive or dominant, however, you don't have to be that persons slave is what I was trying to say, what I was missing is the connection that is built over time from that type of relationship. They do need to be that persons slave, other options fade away.

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I think it's the term slave, the word itself that has caused my confusion to begin with, it's just my life experience that the term was always submissive, with various levels of that, I've never gotten this far where the slave level was even a thought, now, it is important to me that I am well informed.

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When I say, you could walk away at anytime, yes, I mean, as an person with equal rights, you could leave, you do have that choice, I certainly did not mean to imply that it would be no big deal.

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When I say, do you have limits, I certainly didn't mean anything like, robbing a bank, jumping off a bridge, hurting someone without their consent, etc. I just meant in the relationship, like, if you aren't bi and your Master/Mistress tells you to have sex with someone of the same sex or I guess if He or She tells you to have sex with anyone else, that could be an issue or pain limits, humiliation limits, things like that, you all answered the question anyway.

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ORIGINAL: leadership527
But being my slave is only incidental to her actual goal and I suspect she largely sees it as a pain in the ass.. just an unavoidable one.

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ORIGINAL: lucylucy

I think equating "the power to leave" with "real power" is a mistake. Isn't that like saying that because my house would be worth a ton of money if I sold it, I have a lot of money? Only if I sell my house, which I don't plan to do. Up until the moment I sell the house, I have very little money (if any). I see the leaving as power thing similarly. Until the moment I leave, where's my power?

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ORIGINAL: kinkyfetishlife

I'm curious about a few Slave issues.

1. If you identify as a slave, then do you interract with everyone in that way, I don't mean at the mall, I mean anyone involved in this lifestyle? I guess this question would go for a slave that is not owned.

If you were at an event for example and someone who identified as Dominant, male or female, started telling you what to do, do you listen?
Do you say, I'm not your slave? Does it depend on your attraction to that person? Does it depend on their gender?

I don't interact with everyone as a slave, even to those I know well and in the lifestyle.  However, I'm pretty submissive, so I'm sure my demeanor comes across to most who can figure it our.  If some general person orders me to do something, if it's reasonable and asked nicely, why not?  No, it doesn't depend on gender.  I respect men and women with dominant personalities.  I am a follower, not a leader, most of the time.

2. Do slaves have hard limits? This is a very general question to ask an entire group of people, some may, some may not, but overall, wouldn't the limit itself make you submissive and not a slave?

Slaves in general will have hard limits.  I do.  There are things I just won't do.  I'm not going to break the law for you.  I will serve, honor and obey my owner to the best of my ability for as long as I can, and as long as she wants me/can put up with me. 

I am curious about the Master or Mistress/Slave dynamic, since obviously, no one is really a slave, at anytime, you could say, I don't want to do this anymore and take a walk. Plus, it's always been my belief that the Submissives/Slaves actually have all the power (power may not be the right word), anything done to you against your will now turns into a real life abusive relationship which you should run from. So it comes down to, you may lose your Master or Mistress if you don't obey, or catch a beating that you don't really want or some other form of punishement, but the punishment is still agreed upon at some point in the relationship.

It's true, I could walk away from a particular Domme, but I could never walk away from the basic nature that I have.


I totally understand submissives, actually, there seem to be more submissives than Dominants, I understand why this is. But, the slave mind-set is a bit lost on me and I really am interested in the concept, not because I want to be one, but because I may want one when I feel I am ready, is there a store? Just kidding. Seriously, I do want to understand and may have more questions, one thing at a time.

I appreciate any help.

Happy to oblige you.

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OP:
Give me your address, phone number, full social security number, full name, any aliases, and all bank account numbers, emails addresses and passwords.

After I clean out your bank account and ruin your credit, I'm coming over to your house with a big, rusty saw. I want a one-armed slave, and you have two. So, you have an extra one. We can rectify the problem this weekend. Sunday is good, for me. So clear your schedule for that day, and be waiting naked for me to arrive. Because I'm a random dominant, and you're a slave. So, you must obey me. And slaves have no hard limits. So, the arm has to go.



That makes pefect sense, right?

                                                     

Its a wonderful world.