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RE: Question for Slaves - 4/10/2010 12:28:56 PM   
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alhamdullilah - Thank you very much, I appreciate the kind comments. I'm familiar with forum issues in gernal from my work online for the past 10 years and normally avoid them completely, I checked this forum out before posting and saw that it is helpful, responsive, intelligent & 99% of the time, very nice and friendly. So here I am and I'm happy to be here.

I think this thread has run it's course so I would like to thank everyone again for your comments and help, it really was very helpful.

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RE: Question for Slaves - 6/9/2010 7:57:30 PM   
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I have been serving a master for a few months now. Over that time, I have developed strong feelings for him and would like a 24/7 LTR. I want to live a normal/kinky life as his BF and be at his command at all times.
A- Is this something that I should initiate?
B- If yes, how should I proceed?
All comments and suggestions will be appreaciated.

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RE: Question for Slaves - 6/9/2010 8:25:55 PM   
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alhamdullilah - Thank you very much, I appreciate the kind comments. I'm familiar with forum issues in gernal from my work online for the past 10 years and normally avoid them completely, I checked this forum out before posting and saw that it is helpful, responsive, intelligent & 99% of the time, very nice and friendly. So here I am and I'm happy to be here.

I think this thread has run it's course so I would like to thank everyone again for your comments and help, it really was very helpful.


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I have been serving a master for a few months now. Over that time, I have developed strong feelings for him and would like a 24/7 LTR. I want to live a normal/kinky life as his BF and be at his command at all times.
A- Is this something that I should initiate?
B- If yes, how should I proceed?
All comments and suggestions will be appreaciated.


Ownedboy, I think this thread is about to die out. I would suggest first searching for other threads that have already covered what you're considering (I'm sure there are many). If that fails, post a new thread with lots of specifics - it's hard to give good advice with only vague information.


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RE: Question for Slaves - 6/9/2010 9:09:22 PM   
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If you identify as a slave, then do you interract with everyone in that way, I don't mean at the mall, I mean anyone involved in this lifestyle?


Not "no" but "hell no!" I'm only enslaved to one man. To everyone else involved in the lifestyle, I identify as a switch. I usually go out as a top with my bottom. Daddy doesn't care to go out much.

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If you were at an event for example and someone who identified as Dominant, male or female, started telling you what to do, do you listen?


No way, Jose. I can't imagine anyone would have the audacity, unless they were joking.

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Do you say, I'm not your slave?


I'd probably say something smartass like, "Pppfffttt! What the hell do I look like?!" And then laugh.

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Does it depend on your attraction to that person?


Nope. I don't submit to random people. However, my attraction to Daddy is a big part of why I'm with him.

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Does it depend on their gender?


Nope. See above. However, I will only submit to men. I don't even bottom well for females (2 out of 3 that I tried triggered anger).

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Do slaves have hard limits? This is a very general question to ask an entire group of people, some may, some may not, but overall, wouldn't the limit itself make you submissive and not a slave?


I used to. This year, at my birthday party, I let him break a hard limit. There are times he'll mention things, like electroplay, and I'll say no way, but I know that if he whipped out a TENS and said that's what we were going to do, I'd do it no matter how much I don't like it. My hard limits are his hard limits.

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RE: Question for Slaves - 6/10/2010 4:26:20 AM   
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1. If you identify as a slave, then do you interract with everyone in that way, I don't mean at the mall, I mean anyone involved in this lifestyle? I guess this question would go for a slave that is not owned.


i behave as Master wishes. For the most part, i'm shy with new people regardless of their orientation.

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If you were at an event for example and someone who identified as Dominant, male or female, started telling you what to do, do you listen?
Do you say, I'm not your slave? Does it depend on your attraction to that person? Does it depend on their gender?


Depends on what was asked of me. If someone was busy at a computer and asked if i might hand them some office supply, i would.
There a certain things that only my Master may ask of me. We would only keep company of those that respected this, so i do not foresee this concern ever occurring.

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2. Do slaves have hard limits? This is a very general question to ask an entire group of people, some may, some may not, but overall, wouldn't the limit itself make you submissive and not a slave?


Every living creature has some physical and mental limitations. i dislike the term "hard limit". It seems to connote "this is something i won't do because i don't like it". i don't know if that was the intention. i will do things that i don't always like. But i trust that Master will not physically nor mentally damage his slave.

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RE: Question for Slaves - 6/10/2010 4:33:13 AM   
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kfl, he has the power to end the relationship also. Would you therefore conclude he has all the power in the relationship? Or that since I also have the power to end it, I have all the power? Or that we both have to be happy and fulfilled for the relationship to continue?

I'm not sure why you would think a s type would be independent with people met at the mall but unable to be so with people who call themselves dominant. I'm submissive to one, and in my 50 odd years, he's been the only one I have ever met I could hand control over to. Believe me, I turned down plenty of other d types because they weren't compatible with me. In fact now that I am his, I still turn down other dominants even though I am accustomed to submitting to him.


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RE: Question for Slaves - 6/10/2010 8:13:09 PM   
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I'm curious about a few Slave issues.

1. If you identify as a slave, then do you interract with everyone in that way, I don't mean at the mall, I mean anyone involved in this lifestyle? I guess this question would go for a slave that is not owned.


After much deliberation I have returned to the protocol that is most suitable for one in my station. I did not compartmentalize this aspect of myself on the kneel. It was expected that I would display the behaviors befitting a slave at all times. I've found that shifting gears is more difficult and it's much easier to simply be and leave it at that. In terms of those outside of the lifestyle I'm gracious and probably a bit more formal than most but it instills a depth of mindfulness that I need.

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If you were at an event for example and someone who identified as Dominant, male or female, started telling you what to do, do you listen? Do you say, I'm not your slave? Does it depend on your attraction to that person? Does it depend on their gender?


I've never experienced that. Nor would I offer that kind of retort. In all situations there's a right way and a wrong way to go about things. I haven't always made the proper choices but I'm aware of that later on when the dust has settled. I think quick on my feet and I'm certain I could decline politely without causing a scene. It would also depend on what is stated and if the person is sincerely needing assistance (that may sound like a bark or harsh but isn't intended as such) or is merely being rude. In either case I know how I should respond. I don't need to emulate him.

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2. Do slaves have hard limits? This is a very general question to ask an entire group of people, some may, some may not, but overall, wouldn't the limit itself make you submissive and not a slave?


I have areas of discomfort. I address them as such because I know they are moveable by the dominant. Whether they remain in place is at his discretion.

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So it comes down to, you may lose your Master or Mistress if you don't obey, or catch a beating that you don't really want or some other form of punishement, but the punishment is still agreed upon at some point in the relationship.


The best investment a slave can make is the time she spends becoming acquainted with her prospective owner. It allows a fair discussion of the situations mentioned without expectation on either side. In terms of behavioral infractions I would expect he'd address them in the manner he deems fitting. To assume that I can dictate when and how that occurs when I'm a willing subordinate in the pairing would strike me as a wee bit strange. He holds the reins because I trust his power will be wielded fairly and isn't subject to self-influenced corruption.

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RE: Question for Slaves - 6/10/2010 9:27:44 PM   
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1. If you identify as a slave, then do you interract with everyone in that way, I don't mean at the mall, I mean anyone involved in this lifestyle? I guess this question would go for a slave that is not owned.


No. In the past there were certain dominant men whose power I sensed and would prompt a more submissive demeanor from me, but this was a rare occasion.
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If you were at an event for example and someone who identified as Dominant, male or female, started telling you what to do, do you listen?
Do you say, I'm not your slave? Does it depend on your attraction to that person? Does it depend on their gender?


I'm not an event goer but I would likely feel a bit astounded that someone felt they could order me around.  But yanno, if it was someone I knew who asked for a drink or something, sure why not - I'll get one for myself while I'm at it.

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2. Do slaves have hard limits? This is a very general question to ask an entire group of people, some may, some may not, but overall, wouldn't the limit itself make you submissive and not a slave?


I have limitations on what I am capable of doing.  I also have the limits my owner has set for me.

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I am curious about the Master or Mistress/Slave dynamic, since obviously, no one is really a slave, at anytime, you could say, I don't want to do this anymore and take a walk. Plus, it's always been my belief that the Submissives/Slaves actually have all the power (power may not be the right word), anything done to you against your will now turns into a real life abusive relationship which you should run from. So it comes down to, you may lose your Master or Mistress if you don't obey, or catch a beating that you don't really want or some other form of punishement, but the punishment is still agreed upon at some point in the relationship.


I think differently than you do.  My heart is enslaved, so up and walking is not as simple as you have made it out to be.  I also have yielded my power to him, to utilize as he sees fit.  He runs the relationship, not me.  And really, either party can end a relationship, not just the slave or submissive, so what's all this power you say the slave has?

I did not agree upon any form of punishment.  I agreed to belong to him, knowing that he might punish me if he finds it fitting to do so.  The form of punishment is his choosing.  And since I enjoy serving and pleasing him, and I love him and this relationship, I have no reason to disobey.  I don't obey out of some fear of being punished.  I obey him because my heart drives me to.

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I totally understand submissives, actually, there seem to be more submissives than Dominants, I understand why this is. But, the slave mind-set is a bit lost on me and I really am interested in the concept, not because I want to be one, but because I may want one when I feel I am ready, is there a store? Just kidding. Seriously, I do want to understand and may have more questions, one thing at a time.


From my perspective, giving him partial authority would be confusing to me.  I needed to give him all authority.  I need him to set the rules.  I need to give him what he wants.  I need to give all of myself, or the lines become too blurred for me.





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RE: Question for Slaves - 6/11/2010 10:05:52 AM   
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1. If you identify as a slave, then do you interract with everyone in that way, I don't mean at the mall, I mean anyone involved in this lifestyle? I guess this question would go for a slave that is not owned.
For me it depends on how well I know and respect the Master/Mistress. While I do not in any way submit to the whole BDSM community I do choose to serve and respect many in a public fashion. A random stranger coming up and barking orders will get a polite, I'm sorry but you do not own me, maybe you should ask instead. I also will if appropriate serve anyone who asks politely a soda or something, but will not play with any stranger just because they ask.

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If you were at an event for example and someone who identified as Dominant, male or female, started telling you what to do, do you listen?
Do you say, I'm not your slave? Does it depend on your attraction to that person? Does it depend on their gender?
Even if I was severly attracted the lack of respect they would be showing me would let me know this is no one I would choose to submit to. I would say something like I'm sorry I do not choose to obey your order as I'm not in service to you.

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2. Do slaves have hard limits? This is a very general question to ask an entire group of people, some may, some may not, but overall, wouldn't the limit itself make you submissive and not a slave?
Yes. My hardlimits in a 3yr collared relationship were 1-I will do nothing against God. 2-I am allowed to do as I need to with my Bio family. 3-I am allowed to leave if my slavery becomes emotionally unhealthy for me for any reason.

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RE: Question for Slaves - 6/11/2010 10:11:08 AM   
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I totally understand submissives, actually, there seem to be more submissives than Dominants, I understand why this is. But, the slave mind-set is a bit lost on me and I really am interested in the concept, not because I want to be one, but because I may want one when I feel I am ready, is there a store? Just kidding. Seriously, I do want to understand and may have more questions, one thing at a time.


From my perspective, giving him partial authority would be confusing to me. I needed to give him all authority. I need him to set the rules. I need to give him what he wants. I need to give all of myself, or the lines become too blurred for me.

For me I have full authority over myself, his authority just superceeds mine if I'm off the the path of what his will desires of me. I have been told to protect myself, him, and our reputation. I am VERY VERY far from perfect, I make mistakes. He also is imperfect and has ask me to be pushy in private with him if I think he's doing something or not doing something that would injure me, him, or our family. His will covers mine, but I still control my will. It's the bending of our will for me more than total and only control on one person's shoulders. In the end I am responsible for my self, and to him.

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RE: Question for Slaves - 6/15/2010 11:11:55 PM   
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1. If you identify as a slave, then do you interract with everyone in that way, I don't mean at the mall, I mean anyone involved in this lifestyle? I guess this question would go for a slave that is not owned.


I do identify as a slave, and interact with everyone in a fairly submissive manner, I would think. I try to keep a concious mindset of who and what I am at all times, knowing that the respect I give and the way I interact with others reflects on my own character...and because I am unowned, I never know who is watching as well. Being polite, courteous, helpful when the opportunity arises, maybe a little shy...this is probably what you would see if I was out in public at a venue with people in this lifestyle. I hope. :)

Like anyone I can have my "off" days, but I really do try to stifle those, swallow down comments I might be tempted to make, things like that. In my experience living as a slave, it's those times that tend to test one's submission, and it's a good excercise to keep that in check.

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If you were at an event for example and someone who identified as Dominant, male or female, started telling you what to do, do you listen?


Yes, I probably would, if I was attending alone, if it was a male Dominant - I don't submit to women, I see them as equals - did I mention I don't attend events alone, so that I can avoid this issue? It confuses me as to who I should listen to or not listen to, so it's a lot easier for me to hand that temporarily over to another Dominant for the evening. Too many Dominant voices in one room makes for one flustered cassie..

I really, really abhor conflict so try to do my best to avoid it well beforehand. Of course, if it's done in jest then I tend to play along and tease right back - it's all in good fun sometimes and I'm not immune to teasing, and quite possibly adding my own creative 'twist' to what's been asked of me ;)

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Do you say, I'm not your slave? Does it depend on your attraction to that person? Does it depend on their gender?


I assume that they know I'm not their slave, to begin with...honestly, I can't see this situation as being an issue..I've never come across anyone in the lifestyle who would be this presumptive nor rude. Playful? Perhaps, but even that I think they'd be careful to ensure that I was okay with it..I could be under consideration to a Master, who knows....I'm not their slave, I'm not there to fulfill the needs or desires of whomever flags me down.

Once upon a time there was an unspoken rule that you would never touch or command a slave who wasn't yours...in some circles, this still exists. I delight in protocol and love no better headspace than when I'm allowed to relish in my slavery, but it's not directed towards anyone who comes alone to utilize it. Not that I'm not able to give it - I can give whatever I'm told to give - but when there's nobody directing me, nobody enforcing His ownership over me, then I tend to keep my charms to myself, so to speak, most of the time.

Sometimes I'll ask/be offered from a Dominant friend to basically be 'his' for the evening, to attend an event or something along those lines. I find it unsettles me, although I like to socialize with like-minded people...I just don't seem to be able to 'bottom' without strong emotional bonds in place. I can do it, but it takes me a few days to sort my head out, and while I miss the attention from a Master, and this temporarily feeds that, it's nowhere near the same and I find myself struggling with tears and the like afterwards. Any kind of play (okay, to be fair, harder play) tends to create a strong drop hours afterwards and I find that sense of vulnerability, lack of belonging etc to be emphasized when left on my own afterwards.

I guess I'm a one-to-one kinda gal, and whatever itches I yearn to have scratched are better left alone until I can beg my own Master to take care of them.

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2. Do slaves have hard limits? This is a very general question to ask an entire group of people, some may, some may not, but overall, wouldn't the limit itself make you submissive and not a slave?


I have strong fears about things like being cut, branded...things like out of a saw movie, you could say lol...just like Carol.

Ultimately when I bind my life to a Master, I look for a man who values me as a healthy, whole person, with Him...and thinks carefully before entering into areas that may alter what he currently owns and enjoys. The word "trust" becomes huge here.

Do I have limits? Yes, right now I do, although I would probably describe them as "horrific fears that give me nightmares that would frighten very big sharks".

Would my Master (future) listen to them? I doubt it would be understood that he had to "obey" my limits, as such. I wouldn't want him to...I would want him to have the same kinds of limitations on what he was willing to do to me, as a man, as my Master.

I would want him to value his property in such a way that she could be with him for a very long time, happy and healthily serving Him. That's what I would want. That's what I do want. Do I know what would accomplish that in the best way? I have ideas, and I'll willingly share those with him...but ultimately it's his call.

Would he take my fears into consideration, having assessed for himself whether it's safe to push past those, or keep them in place? If he doesn't, I fail to see how he can call himself my Master.

In a way this is kinda a silly question to me...because this is something sorted out over time, as the relationship deepens. As he learns of me, he assesses and sometimes those "limits" disappear over time.

I don't even know if I've really needed to have this conversation, in the past...because it was simple common sense. Then again, what's common sense to me perhaps isn't to everyone.


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I am curious about the Master or Mistress/Slave dynamic, since obviously, no one is really a slave, at anytime, you could say, I don't want to do this anymore and take a walk. Plus, it's always been my belief that the Submissives/Slaves actually have all the power (power may not be the right word), anything done to you against your will now turns into a real life abusive relationship which you should run from. So it comes down to, you may lose your Master or Mistress if you don't obey, or catch a beating that you don't really want or some other form of punishement, but the punishment is still agreed upon at some point in the relationship.


I spent years in the Middle East, serving as a slave. I have served as a slave here, in Canada. While I prefer the environment that society gives in support of slavery overseas, the feelings I have here in Canada, serving, are no different.

Once there is a firm ownership in place, I am bound by my own need to serve as a slave. No laws enter into those feelings, or that sense of security, or loss I would feel without it.

No punishment that I could be given would ever come close to the sense of loss I would feel...and have felt...at the loss of my Master.

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I totally understand submissives, actually, there seem to be more submissives than Dominants, I understand why this is. But, the slave mind-set is a bit lost on me and I really am interested in the concept, not because I want to be one, but because I may want one when I feel I am ready, is there a store? Just kidding. Seriously, I do want to understand and may have more questions, one thing at a time.

I appreciate any help.


I'm so glad that you understand a submissive nature, because many times I'm still trying to figure out my own and why I must be the way that I am lol..there are times when I struggle with these longings and needs and desires that don't seem to fit into a more feminist society as we live in, and I don't necessarily see who I am as being an asset in that respect.....but I do think there is a difference between the two words - slave and submissive. As a slave, I submit. I'm not sure if you can slave, as a submissive?

I would welcome hearing more of your understanding, as I really have appreciated your questions.

I still identify as a slave although I am unowned, because I'm not sure of another term that describes me more accurately. I'm of the mind that a slave is a slave, whether she's owned or unowned..she's simply an unhappy one (overall) when she's unowned. And I would hope that for myself, and the other slave who have responded who are in similar position that we wouldn't be able to respond to your questions as unowned slaves for long. Perhaps by then you'll have new questions? :))

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RE: Question for Slaves - 6/15/2010 11:14:32 PM   
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1. Only if I feel like it. (and it takes someone pretty special to make me feel like it.)

2. Of course! They are negotiated before a slave allows him/herself to be owned.

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RE: Question for Slaves - 6/16/2010 5:24:20 AM   
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I'm curious about a few Slave issues.

1. If you identify as a slave, then do you interract with everyone in that way, I don't mean at the mall, I mean anyone involved in this lifestyle? I guess this question would go for a slave that is not owned.
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2. Do slaves have hard limits? This is a very general question to ask an entire group of people, some may, some may not, but overall, wouldn't the limit itself make you submissive and not a slave?




as you can see it hasnt wound down, it could go on forever

question 1)) - i am totally monogamous with my emotions, loyalty and everything else - it would make no difference if i was a slave to someone or not, that is how i am anyway.  for me being in submission to someone is poles apart from being submissive/courteous/respectful to other Dominants at a club.  i have had Dominants of both sexes take an interest, stroke my hair (its long and curly and seems to have that effect), speak to me, be friendly and quite familiar but always they were respectful of the fact that i was with my Master.

question 2)) i have hard limits set in stone that are there before any relationship begins.  those limits are pretty basic and obvious and i would only submit to a man who shared them and by dint of that pushed all and any possibility of exploring them away before the relationship starts.  therefore, on that basis, i do not enter an Ms relationship with any hard limits.  its of course unrealistic to presume that you are going to meet someone who will never ever ask you to do things that are difficult/challenging or seemingly beyond you at some point down the line - infact i think its almost inevitable as barriers, boundaries and levels are pushed and further explored, and so they should be.  but by then trust should have been fully endorsed and there should be no reason to say 'no' - if they know you and youre capabilities and have no desire to break that trust or theyre toy a slave should be able to submit to their Master on all things.  its very much a two way street with this stuff.

edited to add:  sexy bod by the way

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RE: Question for Slaves - 6/16/2010 1:50:59 PM   
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*raises a hand* I want to second what lally2 edited to add...

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RE: Question for Slaves - 6/16/2010 2:42:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kinkyfetishlife

I'm curious about a few Slave issues.

1. If you identify as a slave, then do you interract with everyone in that way, I don't mean at the mall, I mean anyone involved in this lifestyle? I guess this question would go for a slave that is not owned.


I identify as Celeste who happens to be a slave. My interaction doesn't change based on my orientation although it is influenced in the presence of powerful men. Normally, I am quite articulate, can speak on a variety of subjects with knowledge and insight then I get in the presence of someone with almost tangible power and I can get downright tongue-tied. Of course, having quite a lot of power myself, it takes more power than I possess for that to happen.

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someone who identified as Dominant, male or female, started telling you what to do, do you listen?


I behave appropriately according to the venue I attend so do things like follow house rules etc. If I can't do that or do not wish to do that, then I don't go. In this case, I would not choose to go to an event where slaves were automatically expected to serve every Dom, Dick or Hairy. I'm not likely to say the words "I'm not your slave" because belaboring the obvious isn't my style. He or she will already *know* I'm not their slave. If something is formed as a request without expectation of fulfillment then I might comply. Everyone is entitled to their *wants* they just are not entitled to my filling them.



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Do slaves have hard limits? This is a very general question to ask an entire group of people, some may, some may not, but overall, wouldn't the limit itself make you submissive and not a slave?


::chuckles:: You probably won't read this answer from anyone else on these boards but I don't believe anyone has limits. I believe given the right set of circumstances, distresses, incentives etc., humans are capable of doing damn near anything. I have yet to come up with an original thought that includes *no one would EVER do XYZ* because sure enough as soon as I think of it I read about someone in the paper who did that very thing I thought *no one* would ever do. I don't have a crystal ball and don't pretend to know the future so my stance on the whole limits issue is.. anything is possible. I certainly have no reason at all to write up a list of things I will *never* do because sure as shit karma will bite me in the ass and force my hand. I don't care to take that chance.

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I'm curious about the Master or Mistress/Slave dynamic, since obviously, no one is really a slave, at anytime, you could say, I don't want to do this anymore and take a walk.


Having the right to do so is one thing.. having the will to do so is quite another.

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Plus, it's always been my belief that the Submissives/Slaves actually have all the power (power may not be the right word), anything done to you against your will now turns into a real life abusive relationship which you should run from.


You are, of course, entitled to hold whatever opinions you like but perhaps consider another perspective. His *will* is *my* will.. so how can he do something against his will?


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So it comes down to, you may lose your Master or Mistress if you don't obey, or catch a beating that you don't really want or some other form of punishement, but the punishment is still agreed upon at some point in the relationship.


I may lose my Master whether I obey or not. Maybe he'll get tired of me. Maybe he will decide he wants a younger slave or an older slave or a male instead of me. There are a whole bunch of *what ifs* that could come into play - disobedience is a *what if* in this house and falls somewhere between *what if the moon were made of green cheese* and *what if the sun super novas tomorrow.* Just not really in the realm of reality right now. I'll let you know tomorrow though, if that changes. :D


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Rock, paper, scissors."

He laughed. "You are the wisest woman I know."


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